Mine are still available (funnily enough as they are East Block E)
I might still bottle it and renew but really there is very little chance that those two tickets will be sold.
Probably wouldn't feel so comfortable in the North Lower if I wanted to keep the same seat though.
Mine were in the lower North, so I am keeping a very close eye on them.
So, if one day you notice they've been sold will you try and buy them ?
Probably just cry in a corner, and then stalk whoever buys them.
Just buy the season ticket, you will probably end up going to the games anyway, tell everybody your mum got it out of money she saved from her pension and didn't realise about the protest and now you don't want to break her heart by not going
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
Mine are still available (funnily enough as they are East Block E)
I might still bottle it and renew but really there is very little chance that those two tickets will be sold.
Probably wouldn't feel so comfortable in the North Lower if I wanted to keep the same seat though.
Mine were in the lower North, so I am keeping a very close eye on them.
So, if one day you notice they've been sold will you try and buy them ?
Probably just cry in a corner, and then stalk whoever buys them.
I might be wrong, but I didn't think CARD wanted a boycott, just to hang on for a while so the club doesn't have an early revenue stream. Airman Brown and Henry will be getting theirs soon!
Go for it Simon, you know it makes sense, saves all those tears!
just looked to see if our three are still available, they are, but why is the whole of East Stand Row O unavailable? That's about half way up the stand and for the whole length, seems a bit weird.
just looked to see if our three are still available, they are, but why is the whole of East Stand Row O unavailable? That's about half way up the stand and for the whole length, seems a bit weird.
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
None of us know yet how this season will pan out but if it's like last then the old adage of you get what you pay for springs to mind.
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
Mine are still available (funnily enough as they are East Block E)
I might still bottle it and renew but really there is very little chance that those two tickets will be sold.
Probably wouldn't feel so comfortable in the North Lower if I wanted to keep the same seat though.
Mine were in the lower North, so I am keeping a very close eye on them.
So, if one day you notice they've been sold will you try and buy them ?
Probably just cry in a corner, and then stalk whoever buys them.
I might be wrong, but I didn't think CARD wanted a boycott, just to hang on for a while so the club doesn't have an early revenue stream. Airman Brown and Henry will be getting theirs soon!
Go for it Simon, you know it makes sense, saves all those tears!
No, I won't and neither will many people I know. CARD advocates a season ticket boycott, but recognised that some people who wished to protest would find that hard and didn't want to create an unnecessary divide, so suggested deferment for them. It's up to people to make their own decisions and I won't be criticising them for it - just as plenty of people not renewing have made their own decision regardless of CARD.
Personally, I think the idea that Roland Duchatelet will resource a squad to win promotion and that Katrien Meire can be trusted not to interfere adversely is fanciful and contrary to the available evidence. We can but hope otherwise, because it is in everyone's interest that the team is promoted at the first attempt, but given that Sheffield United are starting their sixth season at this level I wouldn't be putting any money on it.
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
None of us know yet how this season will pan out but if it's like last then the old adage of you get what you pay for springs to mind.
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
I've been to the Ivy, I've never heard of a Morleys chicken outlet so I can't comment on its fare but I suspect you pay for the name at the Ivy. Is it better value ? Others will have to answer that.
Is going to a match week in, week out all about winning and seeing a great game of football ? I suspect not otherwise nearly every ground in the country would be empty. Going to the match is about getting there (sometimes), camaraderie, having a drink or two for many, a spot of lunch for some. It's more than just the actual game. Shit football, shit season ? How come a lot of us (fans collectively, not just Charlton) still keep turning up if it was just about the game ?
£175 to pencil in 23 games is an absolute bargain.
If RD and KM had any sense they'd extend the offer to other parts of the ground.
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
None of us know yet how this season will pan out but if it's like last then the old adage of you get what you pay for springs to mind.
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
I've been to the Ivy, I've never heard of a Morleys chicken outlet so I can't comment on its fare but I suspect you pay for the name at the Ivy. Is it better value ? Others will have to answer that.
Is going to a match week in, week out all about winning and seeing a great game of football ? I suspect not otherwise nearly every ground in the country would be empty. Going to the match is about getting there (sometimes), camaraderie, having a drink or two for many, a spot of lunch for some. It's more than just the actual game. Shit football, shit season ? How come a lot of us (fans collectively, not just Charlton) still keep turning up if it was just about the game ?
£175 to pencil in 23 games is an absolute bargain.
If RD and KM had any sense they'd extend the offer to other parts of the ground.
I think we've already established that they have no sense, but that would be a great way of reducing their revenue even further. They've sold about half the seats in the lower north at that price - meaning half are currently unsold. What makes you think that there are sufficient additional willing purchasers out there to offset wiping up to two thirds of the value of other existing adult purchases? And wouldn't they be the same people likely to buy match tickets anyway?
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
None of us know yet how this season will pan out but if it's like last then the old adage of you get what you pay for springs to mind.
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
I've been to the Ivy, I've never heard of a Morleys chicken outlet so I can't comment on its fare but I suspect you pay for the name at the Ivy. Is it better value ? Others will have to answer that.
Is going to a match week in, week out all about winning and seeing a great game of football ? I suspect not otherwise nearly every ground in the country would be empty. Going to the match is about getting there (sometimes), camaraderie, having a drink or two for many, a spot of lunch for some. It's more than just the actual game. Shit football, shit season ? How come a lot of us (fans collectively, not just Charlton) still keep turning up if it was just about the game ?
£175 to pencil in 23 games is an absolute bargain.
If RD and KM had any sense they'd extend the offer to other parts of the ground.
I think we've already established that they have no sense, but that would be a great way of reducing their revenue even further. They've sold about half the seats in the lower north at that price - meaning half are currently unsold. What makes you think that there are sufficient additional willing purchasers out there to offset wiping up to two thirds of the value of other existing adult purchases? And wouldn't they be the same people likely to buy match tickets anyway?
Pricing is key in everything. Football for a fiver is successful so there's a good chance that reasonable priced season tickets will be successful too.
Selling half the lower north tickets in a climate where everybody is bitching at those that do buy is pretty impressive in my book and whilst it's only a guess I suspect more tickets will be sold by the time August comes around. And even if only half the lower north has been sold to season ticket holders then I suspect it will look pretty full if not sell out once the match day ticket buyers rock up for games. It's far better for both the club and those match day fans if they lock in a season ticket.
If RD and KM can more if less fill the ground, even at a low ticket price, then the product that is Charlton Athletic starts to look a whole lot better. Once it's full and the team is achieving success it can adjust the prices accordingly.
Who are these 5,000 people buying season tickets?!
Well i reckon there's a slight possibility that Seb is one of them, so might as well ask who the 4,999 are.
I've got 3 so that's 4,996!
I've got 2, it's my club, RD and KM are just interim caretakers and will go before I do, so that's 4,994
What's that word she used? ahh yes WEIRD! some people with their pathetic sense of ownership. Roland will be less than pleased people like you are refusing to leave the valley.
Mine are still available (funnily enough as they are East Block E)
I might still bottle it and renew but really there is very little chance that those two tickets will be sold.
Probably wouldn't feel so comfortable in the North Lower if I wanted to keep the same seat though.
Mine were in the lower North, so I am keeping a very close eye on them.
So, if one day you notice they've been sold will you try and buy them ?
Probably just cry in a corner, and then stalk whoever buys them.
I might be wrong, but I didn't think CARD wanted a boycott, just to hang on for a while so the club doesn't have an early revenue stream. Airman Brown and Henry will be getting theirs soon!
Go for it Simon, you know it makes sense, saves all those tears!
No, I won't and neither will many people I know. CARD advocates a season ticket boycott, but recognised that some people who wished to protest would find that hard and didn't want to create an unnecessary divide, so suggested deferment for them. It's up to people to make their own decisions and I won't be criticising them for it - just as plenty of people not renewing have made their own decision regardless of CARD.
Personally, I think the idea that Roland Duchatelet will resource a squad to win promotion and that Katrien Meire can be trusted not to interfere adversely is fanciful and contrary to the available evidence. We can but hope otherwise, because it is in everyone's interest that the team is promoted at the first attempt, but given that Sheffield United are starting their sixth season at this level I wouldn't be putting any money on it.
Buy the £175 ticket and have the satisfaction of the look on the faces of those that support other clubs when you tell them your ticket for 23 games only costs that much. Stops any banter and piss-taking in its tracks.
None of us know yet how this season will pan out but if it's like last then the old adage of you get what you pay for springs to mind.
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
I've been to the Ivy, I've never heard of a Morleys chicken outlet so I can't comment on its fare but I suspect you pay for the name at the Ivy. Is it better value ? Others will have to answer that.
Is going to a match week in, week out all about winning and seeing a great game of football ? I suspect not otherwise nearly every ground in the country would be empty. Going to the match is about getting there (sometimes), camaraderie, having a drink or two for many, a spot of lunch for some. It's more than just the actual game. Shit football, shit season ? How come a lot of us (fans collectively, not just Charlton) still keep turning up if it was just about the game ?
£175 to pencil in 23 games is an absolute bargain.
If RD and KM had any sense they'd extend the offer to other parts of the ground.
I think we've already established that they have no sense, but that would be a great way of reducing their revenue even further. They've sold about half the seats in the lower north at that price - meaning half are currently unsold. What makes you think that there are sufficient additional willing purchasers out there to offset wiping up to two thirds of the value of other existing adult purchases? And wouldn't they be the same people likely to buy match tickets anyway?
Pricing is key in everything. Football for a fiver is successful so there's a good chance that reasonable priced season tickets will be successful too.
Selling half the lower north tickets in a climate where everybody is bitching at those that do buy is pretty impressive in my book and whilst it's only a guess I suspect more tickets will be sold by the time August comes around. And even if only half the lower north has been sold to season ticket holders then I suspect it will look pretty full if not sell out once the match day ticket buyers rock up for games. It's far better for both the club and those match day fans if they lock in a season ticket.
If RD and KM can more if less fill the ground, even at a low ticket price, then the product that is Charlton Athletic starts to look a whole lot better. Once it's full and the team is achieving success it can adjust the prices accordingly.
There's really nothing clever about halving your revenue. Football for a Fiver has worked financially because 1) there has been a base of 10,000 season tickets from which the revenue was not affected by it and 2) there is a cohort of people who will come to The Valley occasionally if you create a one-off event and offer great value for money.
There is no possibility whatsoever that you can replicate that in season tickets in League One with the current level of distrust towards the ownership. Even if the season tickets were free it's highly unlikely you would be able to fill the ground. You could probably issue them but a very large number wouldn't use them at any given game.
As far as the lower north is concerned, it's likely that most purchasers are existing season-ticket holders trading down. This has led to, say, an extra 1,000 people buying in that area. It's a ludicrous idea that this can be extrapolated to mean offering the same price in other stands would attract 20,000 extra supporters when it is already available and nowhere near sold out behind the goal.
In fact we did look at this model in 2011 and ruled it out in the much more propitious circumstances then.
As far as locking in supporters with a season ticket is concerned, yes, I agree. That is what the club wants and it's part of the reason I won't buy one. The club cannot be trusted and doesn't deserve that commitment. But there are at the very least big questions as to whether locking them in at under £6 a match is worthwhile against the alternative match revenue - unless of course you are anticipating failure on the pitch.
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I might still bottle it and renew but really there is very little chance that those two tickets will be sold.
Probably wouldn't feel so comfortable in the North Lower if I wanted to keep the same seat though.
Well i reckon there's a slight possibility that Seb is one of them, so might as well ask who the 4,999 are.
Go for it Simon, you know it makes sense, saves all those tears!
Its like comparing the ivy to a Morley's chicken outlet.
Personally, I think the idea that Roland Duchatelet will resource a squad to win promotion and that Katrien Meire can be trusted not to interfere adversely is fanciful and contrary to the available evidence. We can but hope otherwise, because it is in everyone's interest that the team is promoted at the first attempt, but given that Sheffield United are starting their sixth season at this level I wouldn't be putting any money on it.
Is going to a match week in, week out all about winning and seeing a great game of football ? I suspect not otherwise nearly every ground in the country would be empty. Going to the match is about getting there (sometimes), camaraderie, having a drink or two for many, a spot of lunch for some. It's more than just the actual game. Shit football, shit season ? How come a lot of us (fans collectively, not just Charlton) still keep turning up if it was just about the game ?
£175 to pencil in 23 games is an absolute bargain.
If RD and KM had any sense they'd extend the offer to other parts of the ground.
Selling half the lower north tickets in a climate where everybody is bitching at those that do buy is pretty impressive in my book and whilst it's only a guess I suspect more tickets will be sold by the time August comes around. And even if only half the lower north has been sold to season ticket holders then I suspect it will look pretty full if not sell out once the match day ticket buyers rock up for games. It's far better for both the club and those match day fans if they lock in a season ticket.
If RD and KM can more if less fill the ground, even at a low ticket price, then the product that is Charlton Athletic starts to look a whole lot better. Once it's full and the team is achieving success it can adjust the prices accordingly.
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There is no possibility whatsoever that you can replicate that in season tickets in League One with the current level of distrust towards the ownership. Even if the season tickets were free it's highly unlikely you would be able to fill the ground. You could probably issue them but a very large number wouldn't use them at any given game.
As far as the lower north is concerned, it's likely that most purchasers are existing season-ticket holders trading down. This has led to, say, an extra 1,000 people buying in that area. It's a ludicrous idea that this can be extrapolated to mean offering the same price in other stands would attract 20,000 extra supporters when it is already available and nowhere near sold out behind the goal.
In fact we did look at this model in 2011 and ruled it out in the much more propitious circumstances then.
As far as locking in supporters with a season ticket is concerned, yes, I agree. That is what the club wants and it's part of the reason I won't buy one. The club cannot be trusted and doesn't deserve that commitment. But there are at the very least big questions as to whether locking them in at under £6 a match is worthwhile against the alternative match revenue - unless of course you are anticipating failure on the pitch.