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STVV's, Roland's club in Belgium, 26 year old general manager EDIT And Karel Fraeye's on twitter

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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,354
    Henry Irving said:

    Possibly more interesting to follow would be Simon Clark @yogs67

    Next Charlton manager; There I've said it. You heard it here first.

    This could happen .Bright young coach who is highly regarded .
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,825
    I'm more concerned about Karel's eye implant. I hope he's ok.

    I don't blame Karel for taking a chance offered, he probably thought he could do ok. He was wrong but it's his employers that have to take the blame on this one.
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    This presented the ideal time for me to give Storify a crack - https://storify.com/FergusInLondon/the-day-karel-fraeye-joined-twitter
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    I actually dislike Fraeye less, than in my view, the smarmy second hand car salesman Riga and the one trick pony, arrogant Luzon.

    Yes he has played a big part in our downfall over the last few years but out of the three above he just came across as more honest to me. He was a network man, he did what Roly said and he didn't really try and hide it (unlike Riga).

    He also had squad wise the worst hand of the 3 coaches this year and actually points per game didn't do that much worse.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,481
    LuckyReds said:

    This presented the ideal time for me to give Storify a crack - https://storify.com/FergusInLondon/the-day-karel-fraeye-joined-twitter

    Nerd.

    I feel for Fraeye, it's not his fault he was appointed to a job he wasn't qualified for, it's Roland's. He was a very bad manager, but it's not like he didn't care, he was just so far out of his depth.

    Also, for as excellent as that tweet about Hendo is, if I remember correctly he was "ordered" not to speak to the press after the Huddersfield game. Still, details aside, tweet of the year.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    It didn't go very well when Fraeye was hear. He was always so rude to our media boys. It was clear he lost the dressing room seeing what happened after Colchester. He didn't even speak to the media after Huddersfield. He was ok as a first team coach when it came to being one of the lads but as head coach when he had to put distance between himself and the players his man management was bad. (At least Riga is better in that department). But apparently Fraeye had one or two of our players in tears by the way he spoke to them.
  • Hovi's Biscuit
    Hovi's Biscuit Posts: 1,717
    SDAddick said:

    LuckyReds said:

    This presented the ideal time for me to give Storify a crack - https://storify.com/FergusInLondon/the-day-karel-fraeye-joined-twitter

    Nerd.

    I feel for Fraeye, it's not his fault he was appointed to a job he wasn't qualified for, it's Roland's. He was a very bad manager, but it's not like he didn't care, he was just so far out of his depth.

    Also, for as excellent as that tweet about Hendo is, if I remember correctly he was "ordered" not to speak to the press after the Huddersfield game. Still, details aside, tweet of the year.
    I don't feel for him. It's not like he was dragged kicking and screaming into the job. The man was deluded enough to think he could step up to the second tier of English football, despite not having any form of experience even close to that level.

    Also, if the rumours are true that he is an integral part of Roland's recruitment team, then I have even less sympathy if that were possible
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,208
    Henry Irving said:

    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

    Henry Irving said:

    didn't seem to have many followers from Hamme or Lommel Utd.

    maybe it wasn't meant to be a big thing, he didn't name himself, but he did tag @CAFCOfficial in his first tweet so can't have been a secret. Still, it's a shame if he's driven off twitter as a result. Not up to it as a coach but everyone said he was a nice guy.

    What did you expect when you started a thread drawing attention to the fact he was on it?


    I didn't mention he was on twitter @LouisMend did even though I'd already seen that he was.

    Textbook Irving.

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  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    The_President said:

    Henry Irving said:

    @PhilippeBormans he's on twitter

    Interesting pic from his most recent post

    image

    Looking at the photo more deeply - is that Roly counting the nights takings, top left?
    Stu that's a tv1 event! Disabled people in the background and what team is that those players are from?

    Connect the dots.....

    Let's get an invite for the next party :)
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,415
    Chippycafc said:

    A belgian i met today told me rolands wife owns stvv. Not surs how true it is and also that his son runs upjest.

    Which leads me to suspect that Katrien may be his secret love child? Would explain the ridiculous loyalty despite her utter incompetence.

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    mogodon said:

    Chippycafc said:

    A belgian i met today told me rolands wife owns stvv. Not surs how true it is and also that his son runs upjest.

    Which leads me to suspect that Katrien may be his secret love child? Would explain the ridiculous loyalty despite her utter incompetence.

    Is she more then a CEO and has a big share in the club? Probably. Would explain quite a few things.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,308
    edited April 2016
    Oakster said:

    I actually dislike Fraeye less, than in my view, the smarmy second hand car salesman Riga and the one trick pony, arrogant Luzon.

    Yes he has played a big part in our downfall over the last few years but out of the three above he just came across as more honest to me. He was a network man, he did what Roly said and he didn't really try and hide it (unlike Riga).

    He also had squad wise the worst hand of the 3 coaches this year and actually points per game didn't do that much worse.

    I prefer him to Luzon but that is a bit like saying I would rather be stuck on a 20 hour bus side sat next to Piers Morgan than Anne Widecombe.

    Luzon is our worst manager ever by a distance.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    Athletico Charlton said:

    Oakster said:

    I actually dislike Fraeye less, than in my view, the smarmy second hand car salesman Riga and the one trick pony, arrogant Luzon.

    Yes he has played a big part in our downfall over the last few years but out of the three above he just came across as more honest to me. He was a network man, he did what Roly said and he didn't really try and hide it (unlike Riga).

    He also had squad wise the worst hand of the 3 coaches this year and actually points per game didn't do that much worse.

    I prefer him to Luzon but that is a bit like saying I would rather be stuck on a 20 hour bus side sat next to Piers Morgan than Anne Widecombe.

    Luzon is our worst manager ever by a distance.
    Just until Piers starts getting amorous that is...
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    A debate on worst cafc managers - and the last 4 all have a serious claim
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,169
    What the guy i met also said our roly is weekly news over there for one reason or another.
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    Athletico Charlton said:

    Oakster said:

    I actually dislike Fraeye less, than in my view, the smarmy second hand car salesman Riga and the one trick pony, arrogant Luzon.

    Yes he has played a big part in our downfall over the last few years but out of the three above he just came across as more honest to me. He was a network man, he did what Roly said and he didn't really try and hide it (unlike Riga).

    He also had squad wise the worst hand of the 3 coaches this year and actually points per game didn't do that much worse.

    I prefer him to Luzon but that is a bit like saying I would rather be stuck on a 20 hour bus side sat next to Piers Morgan than Anne Widecombe.

    Luzon is our worst manager ever by a distance.
    Curbs used to show potential new players videos of Charlton, explain the story to them etc - if they didn't get it they weren't going to fit in. Powell too - he knew the history of this cub.

    Fast forward to Luzon & everything is summed up in this video.

    The interviewer is asking Luzon in March 2014 if he knows Riga.

    Luzon - I don't know who it is
    Interviewer - the coach of Charlton
    Luzon (dismissively) - damn it I don't know them either

    That there is the Duchatalatet & Meire regime summed up in one 10 second clip.

    Arseholes the lot of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qroJLsECsFY
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,566
    Fraeye & Katrien. Separated at birth, I reckon.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,030
    LuckyReds said:

    This presented the ideal time for me to give Storify a crack - https://storify.com/FergusInLondon/the-day-karel-fraeye-joined-twitter

    I made the cut!!

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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Desperate Pete - Goodbye Pete.
    Good riddance.
  • Desperate_Pete
    Desperate_Pete Posts: 230
    The_President said:

    Desperate Pete - Goodbye Pete.
    Good riddance.

    You are a charmer.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,887
    Karel Fraeye being on twitter still cant be beaten after all the tweets between fans and Andy Delorts Dad!!
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,066
    I'd liken Fraeye to being Duchatelet's version of Murray's Les Reed moment, bar the fact that I have no idea if Fraeye was respected as a coach first time round under Riga.

    I know Les certainly had the utmost respect of Kins and the play-off winning team, but just was never a main man (manager/first team coach/whatever)!

    P.S. Didn't realise Henry had such a potty-mouth!!!! :wink:
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,452
    Amazing! Well done people
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,052
    You cannot blame Fraeye, or Peeters, Luzon or Riga for our position, the fact that they are not good enough for this league, the same as some of the players that were brought in, you can only blame RD, (I refuse to call him by his first name, like his a friend and can never spell his surname right), He had people like Chappell and other coaches but refused to take notice of them and got advice from other people who did not know the football league. If it is true he bought players on Fraeye's advice that turned out to be crap, who is the idiot. As it is RD's money, you would think he would get the best advice from people who knows, the fact he relied on his Belgian cronies shows you what a numpty he is. I am not going to get started on him choosing a young, inexperienced lawyer to run a football club, I wonder if he would bring in a totally inexperienced person to run one of his other ventures
  • Desperate_Pete
    Desperate_Pete Posts: 230
    Good post ross1. I would only say for a fact that the players were brought in by RD's man with a laptop and who rarely sees players in reality and that this man is not Karel Fraeye.
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,582
    Rubbish. All of them are complicit in this. They all took the job knowing how it was going to work. None of them spoke against it, and, more importantly, none of them resigned. They all sat there and played along until Roland needed a scapegoat.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,295
    TelMc32 said:

    I'd liken Fraeye to being Duchatelet's version of Murray's Les Reed moment, bar the fact that I have no idea if Fraeye was respected as a coach first time round under Riga.

    I know Les certainly had the utmost respect of Kins and the play-off winning team, but just was never a main man (manager/first team coach/whatever)!

    P.S. Didn't realise Henry had such a potty-mouth!!!! :wink:

    ??
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,759
    Henry Irving said:

    TelMc32 said:

    I'd liken Fraeye to being Duchatelet's version of Murray's Les Reed moment, bar the fact that I have no idea if Fraeye was respected as a coach first time round under Riga.

    I know Les certainly had the utmost respect of Kins and the play-off winning team, but just was never a main man (manager/first team coach/whatever)!

    P.S. Didn't realise Henry had such a potty-mouth!!!! :wink:

    ??
    I would guess @TelMc32 thinks that HenryIrving10 on Twitter is you.

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