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England v Sri Lanka & Pakistan

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  • Haha. Chicken pork ham hock and mustard. F**king Lush.

    Is that a sausage roll?!
  • edited August 2016
    Yep! In pasty with crackling on top.
  • They were M&S sausage rolls.
  • dickplumb said:

    England have a big problem in deciding what to do with Hales, Ballance and Vince. Do they persevere or drop one or two? or all three.

    Would expect , with the emergence of Woakes, that they will likely persevere with Hales, but give Ballance and Vince a break, and then promote Bairstow to 4, bring back Buttler to keep and bat 6 and Stokes will bat at 5, so, a first choice team of...

    Cook
    Hales
    Root
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Ali
    Woakes
    Broad
    Wood/Finn
    Jimmy.

    Might also start to see the emergence of Sam Curran next year too, though maybe they might leave him til after an Ashes series.
    I suppose Ballance might be given a second third chance as his record against the Indians is very good. Hales will keep his place until someone with a better technique/temperament comes along. Vince won't tour and will need to score big in the county championship to be considered again.
  • Heard an interesting story about Vince while I was still the Oval on Friday. I won't go into any detail, but it's clear that he's a very, very talented cricketer, but he has one, major technical issue he needs to overcome before he'll make the leap from county batsman to Test-class cricketer: his asronishing lack of self-belief.

    For his sake, I wouldn't take him on tour yet; let him spend a year or two making millions of runs at first class level; and bring him back when he's ready and when he knows he's ready.
  • He's certainly got 'it' when you look at his technique. Lets hope he comes back (having got rid of *that* shot that keeps getting him out. Don't think he needs the likes of stupid Boycott saying publicly that he shouldn't ever play tests again.

    Also getting a bit bored with Warne , has probably the best insight into the game, but getting a bit fed-up with his stupid sayings, 'salmon trout', talking about hair gel, 'getting a few on-board', - Arlott he is not. Just stick to talking about cricket.
  • Unless something major happens, I imagine our first choice test side for the winter will be:

    Cook *
    Hales
    Root
    Ballance
    Ali
    Stokes
    Bairstow +
    Woakes
    Rashid
    Broad
    Anderson
  • I think the selectors have been too loyal to Hales, Vince and Ballance this series. It's the classic situation where a winning team masks the failures of certain players, whereas if we had lost at Edgbaston changes would probably have been made.
  • I think that they will keep Ballance but drop Hales and Vince. I also believe that Bell will be recalled and that they will add two young up and coming batsmen to the squad - one of which maybe Duckett and the othe will be Ansari who could double up as the third spinner to Ali and Rashid.

    Something like this:

    Cook
    Duckett
    Root
    Bell
    Ballance
    Ansari
    Ali
    Rashid
    Bairstow
    Buttler
    Stokes
    Woakes
    Broad
    Anderson
    Wood
    Finn
  • Yeah, good call re Duckett, but believe he will be given his chance in limited-overs first.
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  • Bell-drummond perhaps? Or borthwick?
  • One of the things that this series shows is how Englnad struggle when there is little lateral movement - shows that both this years (SL aside) and last seasons touring both won both games in London, where we probably have the flattest wickets going.
  • One of the things that this series shows is how Englnad struggle when there is little lateral movement - shows that both this years (SL aside) and last seasons touring both won both games in London, where we probably have the flattest wickets going.

    Scoreboard pressure does play a part though. If England had got 450-500 in the first innings, then Pakistan would have been under more pressure batting first time.

    As if happened, the pitch was very flat on days 2 and 3, so a perfect time for Pakistan to get a big score then whittle out a few knackered and frazzled England batsmen...

    2-2 is a fair reflection of the series. England lost to Pakistan in the UAE, so it was never going to be an easy series
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    I think that they will keep Ballance but drop Hales and Vince. I also believe that Bell will be recalled and that they will add two young up and coming batsmen to the squad - one of which maybe Duckett and the othe will be Ansari who could double up as the third spinner to Ali and Rashid.

    Something like this:

    Cook
    Duckett
    Root
    Bell
    Ballance
    Ansari
    Ali
    Rashid
    Bairstow
    Buttler
    Stokes
    Woakes
    Broad
    Anderson
    Wood
    Finn

    Not likely to be ansari. Suffering from various injuries this year. Just as he looks like he has regained form or confidence he gets struck by another one. Has underperformed with the bat too. Think that player will be Borthwick. Can bat in the top order and bowl.
  • Indicative of how hard it is now to win away from home - Sri Lanka get stuffed 3-0 by England but then beat Australia by the same score!

    Herath took 7 wickets against England but no less than 28 against the Aussies.
  • looking at the Oz innings, they seem to have bigger problems than us in middle order, with Voges,Henriques,Marsh and Nevill batting at 4,5,6,7 respectively, that's not a middle order to give bowling attacks nightmares.
  • edited August 2016
    Day/nighter at Aegeas Bowl about to start.

    Pakistan won the toss & bat first.
  • England: Alex Hales, Jason Roy, Joe Root, Eoin Morgan (capt), Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler, Moeen Ali, Chris Woakes, Adil Rashid, Liam Plunkett, Mark Wood

    Pakistan: Azhar Ali (capt), Sharjeel Khan, Mohammad Hafeez, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Sarfraz Ahmed, Mohammad Nawaz, Imad Wasim, Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Amir, Umar Gul

    Stokes plays as a batsman, though to me that leave's the bowling slightly short. Presumably Root will be the 6th bowler, if required
  • edited August 2016
    25-1

    Sharjeel c Buttler b Wood 16
  • Azhar dropped by Hales off Woakes in the gully.
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  • Azhar dropped by Buttler off Plunkett (a difficult one).
  • Hafeez got away with one there. Plunkett appealed for an lbw, turned down on review, as umpires call, but clearly hitting leg stump.
  • 52-2

    Hafeez c Hales b Root 11
  • England: Alex Hales, Jason Roy, Joe Root, Eoin Morgan (capt), Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler, Moeen Ali, Chris Woakes, Adil Rashid, Liam Plunkett, Mark Wood

    Pakistan: Azhar Ali (capt), Sharjeel Khan, Mohammad Hafeez, Babar Azam, Shoaib Malik, Sarfraz Ahmed, Mohammad Nawaz, Imad Wasim, Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Amir, Umar Gul

    Stokes plays as a batsman, though to me that leave's the bowling slightly short. Presumably Root will be the 6th bowler, if required

    Ignore the first half of this line!
  • 84-2 off 18
  • Azam lbw Rashid 40

    113-3

    Definite lbw apart from the inside edge and possibly hitting him outside the line.
  • 124-3 off 26
  • 124-3 off 26

    Azam lbw Rashid 40

    113-3

    Definite lbw apart from the inside edge and possibly hitting him outside the line.

    No reviews ?
  • They wasted their only review on the first wicket, apparently the clearest edge you'll ever see and hear, yet the batsman reviewed it
  • 124-3 off 26

    Azam lbw Rashid 40

    113-3

    Definite lbw apart from the inside edge and possibly hitting him outside the line.

    No reviews ?
    As above, only 1 review permitted & Sharjeel used it up appealing his wicket. Holding said he'd drop him for that selfish action. (He may have said he'd never play him again, but in this heat I'm not certain).
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