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Jordan Cousins to QPR (gone, confirmed)

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  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,976
    Dave2l said:

    It's not that we need the money that will be spent on repairing the rest of the squad.
    If we got 10mil for cousins ...we wouldn't see any of it. It's RDs, not charltons, end of.

    It's the knowing that we have a businessman at the helm that really does not want to go as far as he can in getting the right price to match the value of a player.

    It's demeaning to the club and the player itself.

    "That's all your worth ...you can basically just walk out"



    Not thought of it in this way. Wonder what Cousins thinks about the fee?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846

    1.5m is a joke of a price for a young english player with plenty of experience who still had a fair bit of time left on his contract.

    Yes he's English, yes he has experience, yes he's young - but I'm English, I have experience and I'm .... ok two out of three.

    But the fee is based first and foremost on ability and JC is a steady lower Championship/top League 1 player. Yes we would all like to think one of our own was worth more but for me the fee isn't way off.
  • Well it's all been said but I have to add my tuppenceworth. In the current circumstances, where the big clubs are awash with money, how the hell do we sell give away Jordan Cousins for that fee?

    That Jordan Cousins who is not only young and English (such attributes usually mean a larger fee) but also talented. (Remember that performance he put in against Notts Forest at an evening home game a few years ago - one of the best I have ever seen from a Charlton midfield player).

    We all know Douchbag and squirrel face are incompetent and EVERYTHING they touch goes wrong. But things like this honestly make me wonder if they are not only incompetent but have much more sinister plans for this club.

    And who the hell will they have left to sell this time next year to cover the huge losses that will come over the next 12 months?

    (PS And watch QPR sell on Cousins for a huge profit in 12 or 24 months time)
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792

    I didn't believe it would be £1.5m as reported and I was right.

    it was even less.

    £1.25m rising to £1.4? WTF so the add is worth all of £150k What is that going to do?

    Knew he was going but at least expected a decent fee or decent add ons but we get neither.

    But I'm sure it more than pays for the three players we've bought so as long as the spreadsheets balance that's all that matters.

    And knowing this lot we only get the £150K when he reaches his 100th England Cap!
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    someone tweeted him wishing him luck and to deck Katrien on his way out. Cousin has liked the tweet.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,976

    I didn't believe it would be £1.5m as reported and I was right.

    it was even less.

    £1.25m rising to £1.4? WTF so the add is worth all of £150k What is that going to do?

    Knew he was going but at least expected a decent fee or decent add ons but we get neither.

    But I'm sure it more than pays for the three players we've bought so as long as the spreadsheets balance that's all that matters.

    And knowing this lot we only get the £150K when he reaches his 100th England Cap!
    But take comfort in that fact that we will be able to refurbish our non-league tea hut with the cash
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Hey, where's the link confirming the fee? I'm confused. Apparently it exists
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168

    All I'll say is that from that list only Joe Gomez was a Championship player... All the other fees received are as a League One team

    I think that definitely plays a huge part in it. It not all down to the competence of the negotiator, although representatives from the seller and the buyer obviously play a part in that.

    The biggest issue for us though, for lots of reasons, Belgian mismanagement among them but not alone, we keep finding ourselves in a weak bargaining position.

    I've seen the comparisons between the fee for JBG and what Brighton have supposedly rejected for Stephens, but Brighton are a club who are performing well, on and off the pitch and have done so for several consecutive years. That means financially they are less stress to sell, but also they are providing a rewarding environment for their players meaning they are less likely to push hard for a move.

    We're caught in a bit of a viscous cycle and have been for some time and that leaves us vulnerable and I;m sure buying clubs know that and will seek to use it their advantage.
    Viscous, definition: having a thick, sticky consistency between solid and liquid.
    Yep, we're definitely in that EA :wink:

    Ducking auto contact.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Fine. But I'd like the 1.4 figure confirmed too. If so I'd agree that it's low for this market. Would have expected nearer 2 or 3.
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    seeing as though JC came through the youth ranks & also before RD got his hands on this club, could Valley Gold members who have effectively paid for JC;s footballing education not get the real transfer fee disclosed under the freedom of information act.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734

    seeing as though JC came through the youth ranks & also before RD got his hands on this club, could Valley Gold members who have effectively paid for JC;s footballing education not get the real transfer fee disclosed under the freedom of information act.

    No.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited July 2016

    Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.

    Get what you're saying. But is Lookman a different kettle of fish? With JC you're talking about an established player. Lookman has had half a season and is very much raw and a prospect.

    Not suggesting for one minute that AL won't go on and become and established player. But, and it may just be me, I have seriously reservations about how far exactly he will go.

    All that said, I should imagine he will go for a sizeable fee, but I'd be amazed if it was anymore than £2.5m.
  • vff said:

    Jordan Cousins in SLP

    “If we had been promoted or had a chance of getting promoted then maybe it would have been different and I’d have stayed.

    “My aim is to be in the Premier League and a club that aspires to be in the Premier League. So it would have depended where we had finished in the Championship.”

    No ambition results in Charlton losing its best players. I hate this Duchaelet ownership.

    Duchatelet sell the fecking club to someone with some fecking ambition FFS.

    Not sure he is Premiership quality. Always considered he was certainly good enough to be in the squad and usually good enough to command a place in the starting line up - but - his habit of sometimes taking one touch too many, mishitting the final pass/shot and just having a few bad games meant I saw him as a reasonable Championship player.

    Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    cafctom said:

    The only way we are going to get them out the club is to target their families.

    But good luck Jordan, it's a good move for you.

    Well, that escalated.
    Yeah we won't be doing that again will we @The_President lol
  • Piss poor fee. I wasn't expecting as much as I know a lot of other people were but the minimum we should have got is 2 million.

  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881

    vff said:

    Jordan Cousins in SLP

    “If we had been promoted or had a chance of getting promoted then maybe it would have been different and I’d have stayed.

    “My aim is to be in the Premier League and a club that aspires to be in the Premier League. So it would have depended where we had finished in the Championship.”

    No ambition results in Charlton losing its best players. I hate this Duchaelet ownership.

    Duchatelet sell the fecking club to someone with some fecking ambition FFS.

    Not sure he is Premiership quality. Always considered he was certainly good enough to be in the squad and usually good enough to command a place in the starting line up - but - his habit of sometimes taking one touch too many, mishitting the final pass/shot and just having a few bad games meant I saw him as a reasonable Championship player.

    Which is why he has left the club to carry on playing at that level.
    In a better club, with better players and better movement, Jordan Cousins may have better options, and wouldn't need to take one extra touch ? Jordan Cousins is a promising playing and worth more than the 1.4 million Meire offloaded him for. Charlton's midfield is looking threadbare.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,622
    I was distraught about this until I learned that Philip Hammond is going to be Chancellor of the Exchequer and Boris Johnson is to be Foreign Secretary.

    Puts football and Charlton into perspective.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Leaks from the club suggested the Gomez fee was higher than reported, that hasn't turned out to be true, and I believe the Cousins fee is the lower one reported. Which is an absolute steal for QPR and a disgrace for us.
    Oscar Wilde said a cynic knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. In that vein this deal is not incompetence or ignorance, but a cynical demonstration of power by this regime.
    Good luck Jordan, you are a good player who could become very good or great, you're young enough to do so.
    Roland you really are a bit of a bastard aren't you?
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    I don't see Jordan as a PL quality midfielder, but then I don't see QPR getting promoted next season anyway.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    I think 1.25 is about his true value at the moment
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    edited July 2016

    Cousins isn't a great player (good athlete though) and the fee is reasonable all things considered. Lookman is a completely different kettle of fish and when he goes he should command a serious fee which will be the acid test of the regimes transfer acumen.

    Get what you're saying. But is Lookman a different kettle of fish? With JC you're talking about an established player. Lookman has had half a season and is very much raw and a prospect.

    Not suggesting for one minute that AL won't go on and become and established player. But, and it may just be me, I have seriously reservations about how far exactly he will go.

    All that said, I should imagine he will go for a sizeable fee, but I'd be amazed if it was anymore than £2.5m.
    With Lookman you're buying a potential Premier League striker who's already knocked a few goals in at Championship level. There are plenty of cash rich lower level PL clubs who are willing to punt big money on players like Lookman at this stage in their career as they know a year later if he progresses he'll be attracting the interest of bigger clubs and they'll have no chance.
  • A measure of how bad that fee is that i'd be annoyed if we'd got that if he only had 1 year left on his contract. He had 2 or 3 years left!

    I'm actually amazed that a guy who's renowned for being so tight is so bad at negotiating proper fees and let's his players go cheaply.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,636

    A measure of how bad that fee is that i'd be annoyed if we'd got that if he only had 1 year left on his contract. He had 2 or 3 years left!

    I'm actually amazed that a guy who's renowned for being so tight is so bad at negotiating proper fees and let's his players go cheaply.

    Perhaps he's left it all to KM to deal with.
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,964
    With our academy we get to see the Championship players of the future....
  • Lamentable, and utterly predictable.

    Jordan Cousins was one of the few players left that I took some pride in sporting. Unlike others I am aboslutely confident that he will eventually play in the FAPL.

    Cannot remember having less enthusiasm for the club, certainly since the early 80s, and this is just another blow.

    Get off cloud cuckoo land
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    We may be looking at the league 1 players of the future as we sink to league 2.

    I hope not though.
  • Just checked and their site says undisclosed so don't know where Ricky Otto was quoting from

    The usual crap he talks
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Genuinely quite gutted about this one, regardless of the money. Proper Charlton boy, very sad to see him go.