I'm a bit confused....so the Turkish military has taken over the country, because another military faction (inside or outside Turkey?) has tried attacking?
I'm half Greek Cypriot so I'm allowed one minor barb (that's really aimed at those who scaremongered about Turkey entering the EU) before resuming worried face :P
FFS, 4 weeks before we're due to go on holiday out there.
Don't worry, your holiday will be OK, you are probably going nowhere near to where the trouble is, (he says with crossed fingers, hoping he has helped DM to stop worrying about something, that may not happen)
Not real something to take the piss out of, is it?
Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?
If this is in reference to the hashtag comment, it's clearly not a piss take of the suituation is it? It's taking the piss out of the stupid, cringey, 'look how caring I am' generation of social media hashtaggers.
Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it
FFS, 4 weeks before we're due to go on holiday out there.
Don't worry, your holiday will be OK, you are probably going nowhere near to where the trouble is, (he says with crossed fingers, hoping he has helped DM to stop worrying about something, that may not happen)
Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it
Issue is, is that a coup needs civilian support.
There are as many people who love and follow Erdogan religiously as those who hate him.
Not real something to take the piss out of, is it?
Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?
If this is in reference to the hashtag comment, it's clearly not a piss take of the suituation is it? It's taking the piss out of the stupid, cringey, 'look how caring I am' generation of social media hashtaggers.
Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it
Issue is, is that a coup needs civilian support.
There are as many people who love and follow Erdogan religiously as those who hate him.
Could get very nasty.
Yeah, definitely could get nasty I couldn't agree more.
It looks like the military aren't keen on his conservative views and want Turkey to be a bit more chilled and Western, but it also looks like Erdogan was eroding their power. It could be that they are seizing power claiming "democracy" but actually they just want to retain all power.
Turkey have had a lot of military coups. The military have been the ultimate guarantors of Atatürk's vision for the best part of a century. People thought that the Islamist government had rooted out that tendency but I guess they were wrong. It'll be interesting to see if Erdogan survives.
The US may be behind it, but the Army in Turkey sees itself as the guarantor of the country's secular character, so is perfectly capable of acting on its own as it has before. I think the AKP must have done something that has provoked them recently. THe fact that Erdogan is out of the country may also explain "why now". I imagine the coup will succeed or fail in the next 48 hours and then things will become clearer. Dave Mehmet's holiday may well be fine and he may even get an extra special welcome if loads of others cancel.
Whatever happens, I hope it passes off peacefully, there really are no winners if it doesn't.
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Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?
Mind you I wouldn't even holiday there, as we discussed on a thread earlier in the year.
Source BBC.
Sounds to me like someone is in denial.
There are as many people who love and follow Erdogan religiously as those who hate him.
Could get very nasty.
It looks like the military aren't keen on his conservative views and want Turkey to be a bit more chilled and Western, but it also looks like Erdogan was eroding their power. It could be that they are seizing power claiming "democracy" but actually they just want to retain all power.
I imagine the coup will succeed or fail in the next 48 hours and then things will become clearer. Dave Mehmet's holiday may well be fine and he may even get an extra special welcome if loads of others cancel.
Whatever happens, I hope it passes off peacefully, there really are no winners if it doesn't.
Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.