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Military coup in Turkey?

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    That's going to be interesting, their PM might be out gunned since he appears to be up against the military.
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    Seeking asylum in Germany...
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    The FaceTime message from Erdogan was surreal
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    IA said:

    It's reported that Erdoğan was on holiday in Bodrum and now may or may not have left the country.

    Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.

    No. He is on his way back to Istanbul apparently. This has the potential to get very messy indeed!
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    Major implications regionally and especially in terms of Iraq and Syria. If the coup is successful I would expext major Turkish incursions into both.
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    edited July 2016

    IA said:

    It's reported that Erdoğan was on holiday in Bodrum and now may or may not have left the country.

    Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.

    No. He is on his way back to Istanbul apparently. This has the potential to get very messy indeed!
    He's still face timing from a hotel room. Sky News reporting he's already planning his escape and asylum somewhere.

    He's calling for the public to take to the streets. Desperate.
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    On FaceTime on another channel in front of a house. May be his house in Istanbul or may be any other house in the world.

    Has he applied for asylum in Germany? Has the application been rejected?

    Very confusing. Very worrying. Can't see any good coming from this
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    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.
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    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
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    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.

    Seen tweets saying the exact opposite as well:



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    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
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    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
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    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
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    WSS said:

    Looks like the people taking to the streets are actually in support of what's going on and celebrating.

    Seen tweets saying the exact opposite as well:



    I predict a riot. I predict a riot.
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    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
    image
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    The military has moved against Erdogan then.

    This looks very odd to me.

    There's probably more to come on this. Proximity of action to the French attacks could be incidental.

    My tin hat order arrives soon.
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    edited July 2016

    Major implications regionally and especially in terms of Iraq and Syria. If the coup is successful I would expext major Turkish incursions into both.

    I'm not sure that I'd agree. While the military could very easily move across their border, it's equally likely that there will be a reduction of Turkish activity.

    For example, Erdogan's government has been very keen on supporting a range of rebel groups in Syria (some/many of which are not a million miles away from Nusrah/ISIS in ideology), the military may wish to pull back from this position. Though, in fairness, Turkish forces are already in Iraq, on a "training" mission, and they guard a mausoleum in Syria (there are allegations of Special Forces with rebel groups.

    In addition, the military have been sucked back into a counter-terrorist conflict against the Kurds, in a conflict that has largely been restarted because of Erdogan's need to regain political supremacy in the face of a concerted challenge in the last few years, with the growth of the HDP (he had taken for granted support for the AKP).

    I could see a situation where both military and PKK (depending on personnel) could take a step back; with the military concentrating instead on sealing the border to ISIS.

    However, the coup has a long way to go before it succeeds...
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    It's heading this way... thanks fuck for rigid and secure border contro...l...s... oh fuck!!!
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    IAIA
    edited July 2016
    I don't think the Nice attack has any connection to this.

    John Kerry hasn't exactly stood up for the Erdogan government. Speaking from Moscow, he hopes for "peace and stability". I've read that in Egypt, the Obama administration didn't condemn the coup and instead publicly supported "democracy", which turned out to be the military dictatorship.
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    No one seems to know what is really happening right now or how it will work out. Difficult time for turkey.

    No problem though because Boris will be able to provide valuable guidance as foreign minister.
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    Watching some crazy scenes on tv at moment of people trying to break through the barricades on the Bosphorus bridge and getting shot at by soldiers. They seem to be trying to get a bus through now.
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    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    You feeling sleepy son?

    Must be well past your bedtime.
    image
    You searched that out just for me? Bless.
    Xx
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    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    Off_it said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
    If the finger is pointed at Russia then we will all need more than tinfoil hats.

    Iran are already scrambling jets to "protect" there borders

    Also turkey is a nato member so this shit just got real!

    Laugh all you want WW3 started years ago!
    No ifs, No buts

    ; )
    Exactly.

    Why would anyone ever believe anything that mug says?
    Yawn
    Should you actually be allowed to post on this serious thread you cretin.

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    Can anyone provide a brief and succinct reason as to why this is happening?
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    I have no idea really what is happening so no i couldn't say why.
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    Major health warning on anything from Turkish media is that Erdogan has gutted the opposition media there so most of them will be pro-Erdogan anyway.

    However, from videos of Ankara and Istanbul shared on social media, it appears that this coup will not succeed. If he returns, Erdogan will likely become more autocratic than before.
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