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Military coup in Turkey?

BigRedEvil
BigRedEvil Posts: 11,079
edited July 2016 in Not Sports Related
Jets and helicopters flying over cities. Army and tanks on the street.

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,353
    Next thing they'll be in the bloody EU
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,213
    #PrayForWhereverItIs #LoveWins
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    I'm a bit confused....so the Turkish military has taken over the country, because another military faction (inside or outside Turkey?) has tried attacking?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,846
    Not real something to take the piss out of, is it?

    Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,353
    I'm half Greek Cypriot so I'm allowed one minor barb (that's really aimed at those who scaremongered about Turkey entering the EU) before resuming worried face :P
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,614
    FFS, 4 weeks before we're due to go on holiday out there.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    Clueless on why there would be a military coup in Turkey. Bloody worrying though.

    Mind you I wouldn't even holiday there, as we discussed on a thread earlier in the year.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,480
    A long week for Boris.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    I don't really understand. So the army overthrown the government? What would be their reason to do so?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,030
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006
    DaveMehmet said:

    FFS, 4 weeks before we're due to go on holiday out there.

    Don't worry, your holiday will be OK, you are probably going nowhere near to where the trouble is, (he says with crossed fingers, hoping he has helped DM to stop worrying about something, that may not happen)
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,997
    PM claims it's not a coup. But says military action is unauthorised.

    Source BBC.

    Sounds to me like someone is in denial.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,466
    AFKABartram said:

    Not real something to take the piss out of, is it?

    Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?

    If this is in reference to the hashtag comment, it's clearly not a piss take of the suituation is it? It's taking the piss out of the stupid, cringey, 'look how caring I am' generation of social media hashtaggers.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,480
    edited July 2016
    ValleyGary said:

    I don't really understand. So the army overthrown the government? What would be their reason to do so?

    Power and money.The army in Turkey have history of stomping their feet if their noses get pushed too far away from the trough.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,855
    Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,285
    They've blocked social media accounts across the country allegedly, no twitter, fb, YouTube, instgram. - whst are they trying to silence??
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    ross1 said:

    DaveMehmet said:

    FFS, 4 weeks before we're due to go on holiday out there.

    Don't worry, your holiday will be OK, you are probably going nowhere near to where the trouble is, (he says with crossed fingers, hoping he has helped DM to stop worrying about something, that may not happen)
    #calmitdownrossco #doesheknowwhohestalkinto #bonkersmental
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,073
    edited July 2016
    Huskaris said:

    Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it

    Issue is, is that a coup needs civilian support.

    There are as many people who love and follow Erdogan religiously as those who hate him.

    Could get very nasty.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,110
    JaShea99 said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Not real something to take the piss out of, is it?

    Or have we become so immune to tragedy / conflict it's now fair game?

    If this is in reference to the hashtag comment, it's clearly not a piss take of the suituation is it? It's taking the piss out of the stupid, cringey, 'look how caring I am' generation of social media hashtaggers.
    Which means we're getting immune to it. :disappointed:
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,855
    WSS said:

    Huskaris said:

    Strange one. Didn't see it coming and I doubt anyone did... Erdogan is a madman though, but I dunno about what the military's motivation is... could be ok, but I doubt it

    Issue is, is that a coup needs civilian support.

    There are as many people who love and follow Erdogan religiously as those who hate him.

    Could get very nasty.
    Yeah, definitely could get nasty I couldn't agree more.

    It looks like the military aren't keen on his conservative views and want Turkey to be a bit more chilled and Western, but it also looks like Erdogan was eroding their power. It could be that they are seizing power claiming "democracy" but actually they just want to retain all power.

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    Chief of military is one of many taken hostage at military headquarters
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    This is amazing I have spent a fair bit of time in Turkey, Canakkale where they are very Kemelest and anti Erdogan but never saw this coming...
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    I've read something hinting that it's the US behind it. Also just read on sky news they've announced they've imposed martial law
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    This will either be the USA or Russia behind it

    You'll need a new tinfoil hat soon
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,668
    edited July 2016
    Turkey have had a lot of military coups. The military have been the ultimate guarantors of Atatürk's vision for the best part of a century. People thought that the Islamist government had rooted out that tendency but I guess they were wrong. It'll be interesting to see if Erdogan survives.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,991
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,694
    The US may be behind it, but the Army in Turkey sees itself as the guarantor of the country's secular character, so is perfectly capable of acting on its own as it has before. I think the AKP must have done something that has provoked them recently. THe fact that Erdogan is out of the country may also explain "why now".
    I imagine the coup will succeed or fail in the next 48 hours and then things will become clearer. Dave Mehmet's holiday may well be fine and he may even get an extra special welcome if loads of others cancel.

    Whatever happens, I hope it passes off peacefully, there really are no winners if it doesn't.

  • IA
    IA Posts: 6,103
    edited July 2016
    It's reported that Erdoğan was on holiday in Bodrum and now may or may not have left the country.

    Also reported that the government had started a purge of Gulenists from the military a few hours ago.

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