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  • Thanks to all those who've submitted their guess so far, below is what we have and those that are yet to enter who have participated in the past, newbies also welcome!

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    fat man on a moped8301
    Solidgone8323
    Pedro458325
    Rob7Lee8350
    blackpool728390
    holyjo8398
    CAFCWest8399
    Redman8409
    CharltonKerry8410
    StrikerFirmani8410
    Housty8424
    BalladMan8443
    golfaddick8484
    Addickinedi8491
    RalphMilne8494
    Covered End8512
    LargeAddick8513
    valleynick668526
    wwaddick8555
    cafcpolo8562
    aitchyaddick8585
    bobmunro8598
    Arsenetatters8615
    HardyAddick8722
    guinnessaddick8769
    @TelMc32 
    MrWalker 
    WishIdStayedInThe Pub 
    Thread Killer 
    PragueAddick 
    Jamescafc 
    Salad 
    Hornchurch 
    meldrew66 
    oohaahmortimer 
    Bangkokaddick 
    Lonelynorthernaddick 
    Addick Addict 
    Jon_CAFC_ 
    thecat 
    TheGhostofTomHovi 
    Huskaris 
    IdleHans 
    Daarrrzzettbum 
    Morboe 
    Fortune 82nd Minute 
    Lenglover 
    Er_Be_Ab_Pl_Wo_Wo_Ch  
    CAFC, we hate palace 
    cafc7-6htfc 
    CAFCsayer 
    Exiledin Manchester 
    Gary Poole 
    happy valley 
    Hoof_it_up_to_benty 
    KentAddick 
    Killer Kish 
  • A Damascene-like conversion of all the pessimistic CL pundits.  You love to see it 😂
  • Since the increase in state pension this year and the continued freezing of tax thresholds, it must be the case that some pensioners should be paying some tax on their pension, which is not deducted at source.
    Some will need to fill in self assessment forms, probably for the first time in many cases or be breaking the law.
  • Southbank said:
    Since the increase in state pension this year and the continued freezing of tax thresholds, it must be the case that some pensioners should be paying some tax on their pension, which is not deducted at source.
    Some will need to fill in self assessment forms, probably for the first time in many cases or be breaking the law.
    Yes, for the first time we (my wife and myself) completed a self assessment form, (previously always done by my company accountant) to be fair we only had around 6 reminders each from HMRC, so I was aware, but I was very nearly caught out that they actually wanted the payment by the end of July, I assumed wrongly that it was end of January. My bill was for just over £450 from memory £250 for pension and £200 for saving interest. My wife bill was £0. Think next year I will have to see if there’s a way of using some of her £2,000 unused tax allowance to offset mine. 
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  • Southbank said:
    Since the increase in state pension this year and the continued freezing of tax thresholds, it must be the case that some pensioners should be paying some tax on their pension, which is not deducted at source.
    Some will need to fill in self assessment forms, probably for the first time in many cases or be breaking the law.
    Yes, for the first time we (my wife and myself) completed a self assessment form, (previously always done by my company accountant) to be fair we only had around 6 reminders each from HMRC, so I was aware, but I was very nearly caught out that they actually wanted the payment by the end of July, I assumed wrongly that it was end of January. My bill was for just over £450 from memory £250 for pension and £200 for saving interest. My wife bill was £0. Think next year I will have to see if there’s a way of using some of her £2,000 unused tax allowance to offset mine. 
    If you are talking of using part of her personal allowance of £12, 570 this can be done by election. She can elect to pass part of it onto you. There is a section on self assessment form that allows you to do that. If you are talking about the higher rate rate allowance, this cannot be surrendered. 
    I expect you can save tax on savings interest by putting the savings in your wife's name. However this requires forward planning and will depend on both of your savings interest and tax brackets.
    I cannot understand why it is due by July, tax returns for year to 5/4/24 are due 31/1/25 unless you are talking about the previous year. 
  • edited July 2024
    Yes, I was talking about election, must have missed that section when I filled the form in. Thanks. Perhaps I ought to get an accountant to do it once on my behalf to see where I went wrong. 
  • Yes, I was talking about election, must have missed that section when I filled the form in. Thanks. Perhaps I ought to get an accountant to do it once on my behalf to see where I went wrong. 
    I believe you can only transfer 10% of the allowance (£1,260), and only assuming that means your wife still won't pay tax. You can apply online and also backdate to 2020 I believe. You would have to be a lower rate tax payer also (which sounds like you are).
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  • Yes I’m lower rate now, my wife has got around £2,000 of tax free allowance still to use so transferring some to me wouldn’t be a problem. Thanks will look into it.
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  • TelMc32 said:
    A Damascene-like conversion of all the pessimistic CL pundits.  You love to see it 😂
    Pah! 

    8270, please @Rob7Lee
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  • Southbank said:
    Since the increase in state pension this year and the continued freezing of tax thresholds, it must be the case that some pensioners should be paying some tax on their pension, which is not deducted at source.
    Some will need to fill in self assessment forms, probably for the first time in many cases or be breaking the law.
    Yes, for the first time we (my wife and myself) completed a self assessment form, (previously always done by my company accountant) to be fair we only had around 6 reminders each from HMRC, so I was aware, but I was very nearly caught out that they actually wanted the payment by the end of July, I assumed wrongly that it was end of January. My bill was for just over £450 from memory £250 for pension and £200 for saving interest. My wife bill was £0. Think next year I will have to see if there’s a way of using some of her £2,000 unused tax allowance to offset mine. 
    I imagine that many pensioners who have never had to do self-assessment will get caught, and fined, because of this.
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  • I’m lending a friend £10k to help while she’s at college (mid life change of career). Are there any tax implications for either of us?
  • I’m lending a friend £10k to help while she’s at college (mid life change of career). Are there any tax implications for either of us?
    Drawing up an informal contract between you will be useful if there are any disputes down the line. It happens, even amongst friends. Possible tax implications if you are being paid interest on the loan, depending on your own tax circumstances. 
  • TelMc32 said:
    I’m lending a friend £10k to help while she’s at college (mid life change of career). Are there any tax implications for either of us?
    Drawing up an informal contract between you will be useful if there are any disputes down the line. It happens, even amongst friends. Possible tax implications if you are being paid interest on the loan, depending on your own tax circumstances. 
    Also, if the person was to die, you have proof of the loan, would be entitled to the money from their estate.
  • edited July 2024
    I’m lending a friend £10k to help while she’s at college (mid life change of career). Are there any tax implications for either of us?
    if you're not charging interest then no. If you are, which i doubt, you'd need to include it in any tax return you might make if you're over the interest income threshhold. I agree with the thoughts above on a simple loan document to avoid possible disputes later on.
  • i would actually go a bit further with the loan agreement and make it a simple deed, which just means it needs to be signed as such and witnessed. I would also add a repayment date or repayment schedule. This could always be changed by mutual agreement later on if need be. 
  • If you pass away they might have to pay IHT (depending on size of your estate) unless you have a loan agreement as it could be interpreted as a gift rather than a loan if no repayments have been made
  • SE9toDA2 said:
    If you pass away they might have to pay IHT (depending on size of your estate) unless you have a loan agreement as it could be interpreted as a gift rather than a loan if no repayments have been made
    They won’t, gifts use up the IHT tax free allowance first,
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