Fredrik Ulvestad signs from Burnley (season long loan)
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Good luck Fred.
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right age, right size (6 foot tall, YES, I am 'sizeist' when it comes to certain positions), premier and international experience, all good ..
welcome Fred .. at least now you have a couple of weeks to get the feel of the place and team during this protracted lay off period1 -
With Tex, Bauer and Lookman we have three players well beyond this level. We probably have too many centre halfs but hey ho. Clubs don't really want to buy injured players. If the new addition is decent, I think we ought to be one of teh favourites now for automatic.
I am amazed the ownership seem to negotiated a window in what you might call a positive way for a change!.0 -
Two things really. First he is Norwegian and Scandanavians don't seem to have the bedding in problems that other foreign signings have with British football. Not as significantly anyway.Nicholas said:So what if we have signed him from a English club. He never started a game for them in the championship so his hardly an experienced player in English football. Maybe I am twisting reality but the amount of shit we have signed since they have been here has been a joke so yeah any player they sign with no English experience in gonna be sceptical of.
In fact I think it's worse that he has come on a few times for Burnley. Shows he was a flop. Similar to Bokata at Leeds. I hope I'm wrong and they become amazing players for us so you can shove these words down my throat. Let's wait to the end of season and see.
Secondly he's not just been plucked out of the Norwegian leagues. He's done his groundwork in English football under a very good manager and at a successful club.
Certainly we don't know how he will perform but I think the omens are at least good.
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Yes, Norwegians play a very "British" style game, speak excellent English and are avid followers of English football, and not just the PL! And he's had a year under a very good English manager, so he'll settle in easily.ShootersHillGuru said:
Two things really. First he is Norwegian and Scandanavians don't seem to have the bedding in problems that other foreign signings have with British football. Not as significantly anyway.Nicholas said:So what if we have signed him from a English club. He never started a game for them in the championship so his hardly an experienced player in English football. Maybe I am twisting reality but the amount of shit we have signed since they have been here has been a joke so yeah any player they sign with no English experience in gonna be sceptical of.
In fact I think it's worse that he has come on a few times for Burnley. Shows he was a flop. Similar to Bokata at Leeds. I hope I'm wrong and they become amazing players for us so you can shove these words down my throat. Let's wait to the end of season and see.
Secondly he's not just been plucked out of the Norwegian leagues. He's done his groundwork in English football under a very good manager and at a successful club.
Certainly we don't know how he will perform but I think the omens are at least good.1 -
Charlton + Scandinavians is the ideal partnership. I even liked Martin Pringlekillerandflash said:
Yes, Norwegians play a very "British" style game, speak excellent English and are avid followers of English football, and not just the PL! And he's had a year under a very good English manager, so he'll settle in easily.ShootersHillGuru said:
Two things really. First he is Norwegian and Scandanavians don't seem to have the bedding in problems that other foreign signings have with British football. Not as significantly anyway.Nicholas said:So what if we have signed him from a English club. He never started a game for them in the championship so his hardly an experienced player in English football. Maybe I am twisting reality but the amount of shit we have signed since they have been here has been a joke so yeah any player they sign with no English experience in gonna be sceptical of.
In fact I think it's worse that he has come on a few times for Burnley. Shows he was a flop. Similar to Bokata at Leeds. I hope I'm wrong and they become amazing players for us so you can shove these words down my throat. Let's wait to the end of season and see.
Secondly he's not just been plucked out of the Norwegian leagues. He's done his groundwork in English football under a very good manager and at a successful club.
Certainly we don't know how he will perform but I think the omens are at least good.0 -
I also asked my Norwegian contact (above) how he assesses current level of Norwegian League.
I think it is absolutely terrible in almost every aspect. It was a little bit better some years ago when Ulvestad was at his best, but unfortunately I really do think the quality right now is probably at an all-time low.
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20,000 members on CL, one person says something and somehow that applies to the whole site. Weird.Redskin said:2 -
Even if this was absolutely true, (which no one can say unless they saw him play, it shows he was a flop in the CHAMPIONSHIP.Nicholas said:So what if we have signed him from a English club. He never started a game for them in the championship so his hardly an experienced player in English football. Maybe I am twisting reality but the amount of shit we have signed since they have been here has been a joke so yeah any player they sign with no English experience in gonna be sceptical of.
In fact I think it's worse that he has come on a few times for Burnley. Shows he was a flop. Similar to Bokata at Leeds. I hope I'm wrong and they become amazing players for us so you can shove these words down my throat. Let's wait to the end of season and see.
You do know we are playing in a lower league than that this season?2 -
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Whooosh, as you're so fond of saying yourself.Henry Irving said:
20,000 members on CL, one person says something and somehow that applies to the whole site. Weird.Redskin said:3 -
Sounds promising. Think this guy will be useful.
Another loan though but lets not worry about that eh?0 -
Where Roland's concerned, the uglier the stream of bile, the better. #RolandOutLeuth said:
This is just ridiculous. He's been signed FROM an English club (and does English experience really matter? Didn't Leicester win the EPL thanks to signing an unknown French midfielder?). He's a FULL INTERNATIONAL (for a non-joke nation). Aren't ALL signings 'with the hope we lucky'? Haven't we been signing UK players almost exclusively this summer? UK players with experience of English football to boot? I know we all hate Roland yadda yadda but this is plainly ridiculous - you're twisting reality into a warped and ugly stream of bile.Nicholas said:Obviously want the bloke to well but this just seems like one of our typical signings a player with no experience in english football. A typical desperate signing with the hope we lucky. They will never learn. Roland out
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No of course I wouldn't drop Konsa. But whether he will make 40 starts is another matter. Let's hope he does. Certainly the players who have the shirt should keep it until they deserve to lose it or get injured/banned/fatigued.East_Stand_Loopy said:
So, poor old Magennis has one average game, and is immediately consigned to the bench?Splodge said:Seems like a good signing. More astute business from Slade. I'd imagine that, major injuries permitting, our most regular side will end up like: Rudd, Solly, Pearce, Teixeira, Fox; Crofts, Ulvestad, Foley; Lookman, Holmes; Ajose.
With a bench featuring players from Phillips, Konsa, Chicksen, Bauer, Lennon, Jackson, Novak, Magennis, Botaka, Diarra & Kashi (when the latter two are fit), then younger support from KAG, Hanlan, Muldoon, there's a bit of depth now.
And Konsa, one of our most consistent performers, in 2 positions, is also sent to get splinters up his ar5e. "Oh, but he is so young", but it's OK for Lookman?
In old fashion terms, is called "being in possession of the shirt". You want to ruin Konsa? Drop him when he's done nothing wrong, and watch him get disillusioned, and want out.
It is up to those players on the bench to oust the starting 11, not the other way round. If Magennis or Konsa were to get injured, then if the players who replace them play as well as they have in the games so far, then they are "in possession of the shirt"...
Yes, I can see Ulvestad replacing Foley, but I think Foley is fully aware that he was brought in as a stop gap, and cover for Solly. (And, I wouldn't mind betting is a great guy to have around at the training ground...)
Likewise I don't see Novak and Magennis only starting if Ajose isn't around. It'll vary throughout. I was just trying to emphasise the depth we have. Lookman will also be in and out of the starting XI0 -
Doesn't matter if he can pass, what is his squad number???0
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http://www.uptheclarets.com/loan-move-to-charlton-for-ulvestad
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12,17,19,24 all availablelancashire lad said:Doesn't matter if he can pass, what is his squad number???
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contrary to a post elsewhere on this thread he is contracted at Burnley till June 2018.2
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Weird ?Henry Irving said:
20,000 members on CL, one person says something and somehow that applies to the whole site. Weird.Redskin said:
"One person says something" ....... surely you mean unique ?
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Saw Ulvestad coming out of the Marriott Bexleyheath this morning. Asked him which foot he preferred.
Right said Fred.14 -
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The good news is that he should be right at home, away to Oldham on the freezing evening of Tuesday February 14th.
Oh and before anyone asks how I know it will be freezing. The answer is that it is always freezing at Boundary park.0 -
Midfield resources not strengthened after all, Freddy The Viking recruited to paper over the gap left by the departing Alou Diarra. Thems is some big boots to fill.
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Velkommen Fred, may your stay amid Charlton's bright lights and metropolitan sophistication be mutually successful.1 -
Viggo Jacobsen and Johnny Ostergaard of Charlton AthleticGarrymanilow said:
Charlton + Scandinavians is the ideal partnership. I even liked Martin Pringlekillerandflash said:
Yes, Norwegians play a very "British" style game, speak excellent English and are avid followers of English football, and not just the PL! And he's had a year under a very good English manager, so he'll settle in easily.ShootersHillGuru said:
Two things really. First he is Norwegian and Scandanavians don't seem to have the bedding in problems that other foreign signings have with British football. Not as significantly anyway.Nicholas said:So what if we have signed him from a English club. He never started a game for them in the championship so his hardly an experienced player in English football. Maybe I am twisting reality but the amount of shit we have signed since they have been here has been a joke so yeah any player they sign with no English experience in gonna be sceptical of.
In fact I think it's worse that he has come on a few times for Burnley. Shows he was a flop. Similar to Bokata at Leeds. I hope I'm wrong and they become amazing players for us so you can shove these words down my throat. Let's wait to the end of season and see.
Secondly he's not just been plucked out of the Norwegian leagues. He's done his groundwork in English football under a very good manager and at a successful club.
Certainly we don't know how he will perform but I think the omens are at least good.
Let's not be too hasty
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I'm. Sorry with another pun but our sponsor won't be happy with this signing! Betfreb0
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I suppose we had to wait for Burnley to sign Jeff Hendrick from Derby for £10 mil, before they would let Ulvestad go to Charlton ?
It might explain the 'tricky deal' that we were 'trying to get over the line' at the end of last week.
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I am the only one to wonder if new players excited to be joining a new club research online how thier arrival has been received?
I'd hope it would stoke him up to prove the doubters wrong but let's not put the man down before he's even pulled on the shirt.
I remember when we were excited about signing players that hadn't pulled up trees elsewhere.
I also remember when a certain washed out striker was signed from Leicester. After a short time passed I have extremely fond memories of standing outside the antigallican surrounded by paras and surfs singing "two hundred and two is Kermogant, two hundred and three Is Kermogant.
Occasionally our great club finds a gem.
I'm not saying it has but I remember when we used to hope we had.0 -
I think we should play him in the back seat kissing and cuddling with BFG.0
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There's a blast from the past. My uncle had that track in a terrible compilation record that my cousins and I listened to many more times than it deserved.0
