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John Lewis Christmas ad.

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  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701
    That's excellent to be fair. I won't be shopping in John Lewis - I'm more of an Argos man - but a great ad all the same
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701

    £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That won't be the cost of creating the actual ad. It'll include media buying/planning Xmas schedule and costs as well as what JLP pays its creative and media agencies, i.e the campaign cost.
    precisely. Once you break down where all the money goes you'll realise it's pretty reasonable.

    large Ad agencies are indeed cancerous monopolising and slow moving beasts, but as long as big brands like john lewis pay them they'll always be knocking around.
    For about 7m we picked up Amdy Faye, Jimmy Traore and Diawara.
  • YTS1978 said:

    £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That won't be the cost of creating the actual ad. It'll include media buying/planning Xmas schedule and costs as well as what JLP pays its creative and media agencies, i.e the campaign cost.
    precisely. Once you break down where all the money goes you'll realise it's pretty reasonable.

    large Ad agencies are indeed cancerous monopolising and slow moving beasts, but as long as big brands like john lewis pay them they'll always be knocking around.
    For about 7m we picked up Amdy Faye, Jimmy Traore and Diawara.
    We should have done a Christmas Advert instead!!
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701

    YTS1978 said:

    £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That won't be the cost of creating the actual ad. It'll include media buying/planning Xmas schedule and costs as well as what JLP pays its creative and media agencies, i.e the campaign cost.
    precisely. Once you break down where all the money goes you'll realise it's pretty reasonable.

    large Ad agencies are indeed cancerous monopolising and slow moving beasts, but as long as big brands like john lewis pay them they'll always be knocking around.
    For about 7m we picked up Amdy Faye, Jimmy Traore and Diawara.
    We should have done a Christmas Advert instead!!
    Haha...with the creative direction supplied by Katriene of course!
  • £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That won't be the cost of creating the actual ad. It'll include media buying/planning Xmas schedule and costs as well as what JLP pays its creative and media agencies, i.e the campaign cost.
    precisely. Once you break down where all the money goes you'll realise it's pretty reasonable.

    large Ad agencies are indeed cancerous monopolising and slow moving beasts, but as long as big brands like john lewis pay them they'll always be knocking around.
    Well worth their investment:

    https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/case-study-monty-won-christmas-john-lewis/1411056



    https://www.marketingweek.com/2016/11/04/john-lewis-the-christmas-ad-is-our-most-profitable-roi/

  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502

    cracking advert imo very welldone not following the others in how the xmas message is delivered

    He got 5 mil for it 2,5 mil he has given to the Elton John Aids foundation i see no issues with any of it

    Which charity did he give the other 2.5 mil to as I doubt he needed it himself? :-)
    Of course it's a lovely thing to do and should be praised but it's probably pennies to him.
  • £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Worth every penny, only £2m more than Richard Scudamore's leaving gift.
  • YTS1978 said:

    That's excellent to be fair. I won't be shopping in John Lewis - I'm more of an Argos man - but a great ad all the same

    https://www.argos.co.uk/browse/sports-and-leisure/musical-instruments/keyboards-and-digital-pianos/c:30683/

    Merry Christmas........sniff!!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    edited November 2018

    £7m quid !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That won't be the cost of creating the actual ad. It'll include media buying/planning Xmas schedule and costs as well as what JLP pays its creative and media agencies, i.e the campaign cost.
    precisely. Once you break down where all the money goes you'll realise it's pretty reasonable.

    large Ad agencies are indeed cancerous monopolising and slow moving beasts, but as long as big brands like john lewis pay them they'll always be knocking around.
    Well worth their investment:

    https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/case-study-monty-won-christmas-john-lewis/1411056



    https://www.marketingweek.com/2016/11/04/john-lewis-the-christmas-ad-is-our-most-profitable-roi/

    John Lewis sales and profits are sliding though, and it's not obvious that their current business model is working any more

    Do social media views and retweets translate into more sales at a fairly pricey department store chain?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456

    YTS1978 said:

    That's excellent to be fair. I won't be shopping in John Lewis - I'm more of an Argos man - but a great ad all the same

    https://www.argos.co.uk/browse/sports-and-leisure/musical-instruments/keyboards-and-digital-pianos/c:30683/

    Merry Christmas........sniff!!
    Lidl are now tweeting this saying anyone can be the next Elton John at a lot less than John Lewis

    https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/MiddleofLidl.htm?articleId=17667
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  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,701
    Addickted said:

    YTS1978 said:

    That's excellent to be fair. I won't be shopping in John Lewis - I'm more of an Argos man - but a great ad all the same

    https://www.argos.co.uk/browse/sports-and-leisure/musical-instruments/keyboards-and-digital-pianos/c:30683/

    Merry Christmas........sniff!!
    Lidl are now tweeting this saying anyone can be the next Elton John at a lot less than John Lewis

    https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/MiddleofLidl.htm?articleId=17667
    I actually saw keyboards in Lidl last night. £20 for a beginner's one For little kids. Might have a look when I get back home tonight!
  • Addickted said:

    YTS1978 said:

    That's excellent to be fair. I won't be shopping in John Lewis - I'm more of an Argos man - but a great ad all the same

    https://www.argos.co.uk/browse/sports-and-leisure/musical-instruments/keyboards-and-digital-pianos/c:30683/

    Merry Christmas........sniff!!
    Lidl are now tweeting this saying anyone can be the next Elton John at a lot less than John Lewis

    https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/MiddleofLidl.htm?articleId=17667
  • WSS said:

    shine166 said:

    Not really a Xmas ad, load of old shite

    Define "Xmas Ad"?

    is Die Hard a Christmas movie?
    Never seen it.
    Heretic
  • cracking advert imo very welldone not following the others in how the xmas message is delivered

    He got 5 mil for it 2,5 mil he has given to the Elton John Aids foundation i see no issues with any of it

    Which charity did he give the other 2.5 mil to as I doubt he needed it himself? :-)
    Of course it's a lovely thing to do and should be praised but it's probably pennies to him.
    He probably bought 2.5m worth of flowers
  • MountsfieldPark
    MountsfieldPark Posts: 2,074
    edited November 2018
    I'd much rather see the Iceland ad, but those orangutans always bring politics into it.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    The best JL Christmas ad has to be the boy with the pengiun.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053

    The best JL Christmas ad has to be the boy with the pengiun.

    I also like the Waitrose Xmas ad from the same year where this poor girl does try really hard to make ginger bread men for the school chrismas fate and when she gets it right the dog eats them. So does them even better. Throughout the add she is assisted by the young lady working at Waitrose. When the girl has one left she takes it to the young lady who served her well in Waitrose.
  • Nowhere near as good as usual. Predictable and dull.

    You sound like my missus
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916

    No idea how this advert is actually promoting John lewis, unless they're hoping that everyone will rush there to buy a piano! I checked, they do sell digital pianos

    We're all talking about John Lewis hence it's promoting John Lewis.
    Responding to

    No idea how this advert is actually promoting John lewis, unless they're hoping that everyone will rush there to buy a piano! I checked, they do sell digital pianos

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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,846
    I think it has got to the stage where John Lewis are not gaining that much from the advert anymore but they feel they have to do it as it has become an institution.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,846
    Be interesting what someone in the industry such as @DamoNorthStand thinks of the advert.

    How do John Lewis judge the success of the advert? Number of tweets and social comments or is there a tangible financial boost they can point to.
  • Watched it for the first time on proper telly last night (not on the internet) and I thought it was shit. Did not remind me of Christmas at all. It was a very good ad for the Elton John movie "Rocketman" but that was about it.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    MrOneLung said:


    How do John Lewis judge the success of the advert? Number of tweets and social comments or is there a tangible financial boost they can point to.

    Different companies/ agencies 'measure success' in different ways. For an advert, reach tends to be the most important number (rather than engagement i.e. how many people interact with a Tweet), although they're not mutually exclusive (more engagement leads to a bigger reach). They'll be measuring stuff like the social engagement, sentiment, reach, YouTube views, audience levels on air.

    The big question is, have you converted that reach into something tangible, like sales. There's no doubt that brand awareness directly correlates to sales, but how do JL measure that conversion in relation to an advert? I've not worked in retail, so don't know how they do that. My guess is that they compare a bunch of factors - YoY sales against YoY reach/ engagement, compared to the wider consumer behaviour for the period etc.

    IMO the agencies tend to lean toward stats that make their work look better. But like I say, I don't work in retail so there may be more tangible results to get at. But I do think the world of marketing and advertising is full of alchemy!

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited November 2018
    It wasnt bad but wasnt up to their usual standards

    I presume the message was appreciate what your given because they can last with you or have an impact for a lifetime
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    The message was 'Taron Egerton starring as Elton John. Rocketman coming May 2019'
    Just not sure how that benefits John Lewis
  • Alan Sugar really liked it..............


  • Alan Sugar really liked it..............


    I agree with LS on this

    Indeed I don't understand the point of a lot of advertising on TV, when there isn't a specific (and especially new) product to promote. Yes "brand awareness" is good, but I'm fairly sure that virtually everyone knows what John Lewis is anyway. This advert promotes Elton John, and it promotes musical instruments, but any shop selling them will get a boost as a result.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805

    I was in John Lewis last night, the advert is everywhere, along with a large stock of cuddly toy Boxer dogs.

    I'm surprised they're not selling the trampoline

    Edit... Ignore that; they are http://www.johnlewis.com/plum-space-zone-ii-8ft-trampoline-accessory-pack/p3073928

    cracking advert imo very welldone not following the others in how the xmas message is delivered

    He got 5 mil for it 2,5 mil he has given to the Elton John Aids foundation i see no issues with any of it

    Which charity did he give the other 2.5 mil to as I doubt he needed it himself? :-)
    Of course it's a lovely thing to do and should be praised but it's probably pennies to him.
    Spent it on ‘flowers’
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    JL now saying they've taken orders on over 1,200 of the pianos!