Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
I didn't get very far with the Belgian TV company:
Dear Heather
Thank you for your reaction. The VRT is not responsible for comments made by studio guests. Therefore it is best for you to contact Mr Duchatelet yourself. Kind regards
Sounds like they are about as fed up with him as we are!
We don't give up quite so easily, though.
They may not be responsible for his comments, but they are responsible for providing him with a platform to make them to a large audience.
They can't just wave their hands and say "not our problem".
That's the press all over. They break the stories and when they get complaints it's a case of 'Hey, don't shoot the messenger'.
But we complain when he says nothing and then when he is interviewed we blame the press for interviewing him? Charlton is one part of his 'empire' and was only part of the interview. To the vast majority of the audience watching the channel, we are an utter irrelevance. If the roles were reversed would we expect BBC London to grill an owner about a club in Belgium when things were going wrong closer to home?
It's not realistic to expect a broadcaster to take responsibility for comments made by guests other than in very rare instances where the guests have been goaded or allowed way too much leeway (as with Bill Grundy/Sex Pistols). As for right of reply, there is no obligation for them to do so. He is the owner and he has made a comment. If it was a Belgian club they may well have tried to get fans on, but for them to find a representative of CARD (even if they knew who CARD are) who speaks Flemish might be asking a bit too much.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
Everyone's a winner. Sounds like the ideal outcome.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
I think you're right, in so far as this is a huge project for Katrien to get some CV padding. But... why at a football club?
This is clearly an industry that she's not suited to, her performance has been quite frankly abysmal, she's made no visible effort to improve and has demonstrated no interest in her job. Simply put, I can't fathom any reason why she would want this industry under her belt - I genuinely do not expect her to be in it after she's removed from her post at Charlton.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
I think you're right, in so far as this is a huge project for Katrien to get some CV padding. But... why at a football club?
This is clearly an industry that she's not suited to, her performance has been quite frankly abysmal, she's made no visible effort to improve and has demonstrated no interest in her job. Simply put, I can't fathom any reason why she would want this industry under her belt - I genuinely do not expect her to be in it after she's removed from her post at Charlton.
But surely, Lucky, everyone now acknowledges that we are just a plaything for him - he has no real ambition or desire to do anything for us other than attempt to do exactly the same as he has done at ST - attempt to turn The Valley into a commercial centre in some way - flats, businesses,gym,restaurants - all to add to his coffers. He simply doesnt give a toss about football, its just a little toy for him.
I didn't get very far with the Belgian TV company:
Dear Heather
Thank you for your reaction. The VRT is not responsible for comments made by studio guests. Therefore it is best for you to contact Mr Duchatelet yourself. Kind regards
Sounds like they are about as fed up with him as we are!
We don't give up quite so easily, though.
They may not be responsible for his comments, but they are responsible for providing him with a platform to make them to a large audience.
They can't just wave their hands and say "not our problem".
That's the press all over. They break the stories and when they get complaints it's a case of 'Hey, don't shoot the messenger'.
But we complain when he says nothing and then when he is interviewed we blame the press for interviewing him? Charlton is one part of his 'empire' and was only part of the interview. To the vast majority of the audience watching the channel, we are an utter irrelevance. If the roles were reversed would we expect BBC London to grill an owner about a club in Belgium when things were going wrong closer to home?
It's not realistic to expect a broadcaster to take responsibility for comments made by guests other than in very rare instances where the guests have been goaded or allowed way too much leeway (as with Bill Grundy/Sex Pistols). As for right of reply, there is no obligation for them to do so. He is the owner and he has made a comment. If it was a Belgian club they may well have tried to get fans on, but for them to find a representative of CARD (even if they knew who CARD are) who speaks Flemish might be asking a bit too much.
You need to read the whole thread; Weegie already offered to talk to them in Dutch, the reply above was in response to that offer.
To be frank in the interview he mishandles a quite straightforward set of questions and comes across as under rehearsed and tetchy.
What he could have said was something like "....yes, but that was nearly 3 years ago and we admit that we misjudged a few things when taking on an English club. The amount we've put into Charlton since 2014 will pay off and with the manager we now have - who's been successful at this level - we are now hopeful fans will see the success everyone wants...." If pressed he could have added "....We can't rewrite the past, but we need to be clear in January 2014 the team were bottom of their league and didn't even have a proper pitch to play on. In those circumstances any owner would have been as anxious to turn things around quickly....." Not great answers, but, the sort of thing you'd expect (and other owners would roll out).
The economic views he was interviewed about after the questions on football relate to his desire and opinion that everyone in Europe should have a fixed income guaranteed by the state. This stuff (originally called Social Credit) has been around in fringe political circles since the '20's but has never gone anywhere despite being an "interesting" idea.
He's basically a very successful businessman who's bought some football clubs (because he likes football) and who's got eccentric political views.
1 He doesn't want football success. He only wants a player farm.
2 I don't believe he likes football. If he did he wouldn't be wrecking clubs and abusing managers and fans.
3. He owns a successful company - how much of that success is down to his ideas remains to be seen. He is just a man with startup capital and an ego, nothing more
This news interview might be interesting, but most of it is hidden behind a paywall. It wouldn't let me do the cheap subscription for a month, because that's limited to Belgium. Anyone got access? It may just be waffle, but it's the bits that I've highlighted that bother me most, as I'm sure this part of the master plan has not been abandoned for Jena and maybe not for us, either.
Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke Höfte, President and strong man. In a rare interview late double torque clearly that they are always at STVV are having fun. STVV played football themselves from danger in recent weeks and they are both happy.
"Sint-Truiden is not an ambition club, but a sociability club. Play-off 1 is of secondary importance. As long as we are saved from relegation stress, it's fine." The renewed Stayen meanwhile is booming with nearly 1,000 people are employed every day. "The whole complex including apartments and parking is an investment of 100 million, but a realization that we are very proud."
And there are good plans that Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke intend to export. What exactly? You will discover now in our Zone Plus, exclusive to subscribers.
We have no ambition as a club but we employ a load of people in our restaurants etc. Wanker.
I think there's a distinction between "we have no higher ambition for the club" and "a lot of people are employed in the premises I lease out". No club in this model is going to see any of the money the development generates.
According to STVV fans I've spoken to, when he relinquished control of the football club, the club's only income was from ticket sales and kit sponsorship. And as part of the deal RD took 2Euros on every ticket sold.
Of course he has since bought the club once more. Meanwhile he continues to acquire land adjacent to the Stayen with an eye on further development.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
I think you're right, in so far as this is a huge project for Katrien to get some CV padding. But... why at a football club?
This is clearly an industry that she's not suited to, her performance has been quite frankly abysmal, she's made no visible effort to improve and has demonstrated no interest in her job. Simply put, I can't fathom any reason why she would want this industry under her belt - I genuinely do not expect her to be in it after she's removed from her post at Charlton.
It just gives her the chance to put CEO on her CV. It matters not what she is the CEO of, or that she is a shit CEO.
Just saw that interview. There's one possitive thing he mentioned (twice) : he turned 70 and his remaining days in football are limited. He'll sell eventually ...
Maybe ... just maybe ... he wants to wait until we get promotion so that Daisy has a success on her CV. Then, once his 'niece' is happy, he will be gone.
I think you're right, in so far as this is a huge project for Katrien to get some CV padding. But... why at a football club?
This is clearly an industry that she's not suited to, her performance has been quite frankly abysmal, she's made no visible effort to improve and has demonstrated no interest in her job. Simply put, I can't fathom any reason why she would want this industry under her belt - I genuinely do not expect her to be in it after she's removed from her post at Charlton.
It just gives her the chance to put CEO on her CV. It matters not what she is the CEO of, or that she is a shit CEO.
The worry is, I'm beginning to think you're right. I'm also inclined to think @MountsfieldPark has posted something that adds an incredible amount of credibility to what @The_President has suggested.
Sadly, it wouldn't be too surprising to see Katrien being the CEO of "Charlton Leisure Precinct" or "The Valley Communal Center" in a few years time; a small football club nestled nice and cozily within the confines of "Valiant Wharf"; luxury riverside flats, complete with a multi screen cinema and restaurants. Think Greenwich Peninsular.. But with a tidy little 8k football ground.
Up until now I've thought such thoughts were fanciful, but the article Mountsfield has posted is depressing and the direction the club is going is clearly downward right now. After all, it sure feels like the small football club bit has come true, and The Valley certainly is looking "under-utilised" right now...
Do not disagree with what he said by distancing himself from the comments. It is a shame the scouser opened his beak about the Belgians when he signed.
Hasn't got time to read the press because of injuries etc. but has more than enough time to visit every newspaper HQ on Fleet Street and every broadcasting house in the U.K. every week.
This news interview might be interesting, but most of it is hidden behind a paywall. It wouldn't let me do the cheap subscription for a month, because that's limited to Belgium. Anyone got access? It may just be waffle, but it's the bits that I've highlighted that bother me most, as I'm sure this part of the master plan has not been abandoned for Jena and maybe not for us, either.
Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke Höfte, President and strong man. In a rare interview late double torque clearly that they are always at STVV are having fun. STVV played football themselves from danger in recent weeks and they are both happy.
"Sint-Truiden is not an ambition club, but a sociability club. Play-off 1 is of secondary importance. As long as we are saved from relegation stress, it's fine." The renewed Stayen meanwhile is booming with nearly 1,000 people are employed every day. "The whole complex including apartments and parking is an investment of 100 million, but a realization that we are very proud."
And there are good plans that Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke intend to export. What exactly? You will discover now in our Zone Plus, exclusive to subscribers.
I heard our support in the first half, it sounded good and confirmed by the Millwall 'you're not singing any more' when they took the lead. Even when we pulled a goal back our fans tried to help.
I hear Karl going on about the fans, but when I watched the post match he wasn't able to give the fans who made a bit of effort any acknowledgement. Maybe the one chant of 'we want Roland out' was what caused Karl to ignore the presence of our fans at Millwall.
I didn't get very far with the Belgian TV company:
Dear Heather
Thank you for your reaction. The VRT is not responsible for comments made by studio guests. Therefore it is best for you to contact Mr Duchatelet yourself. Kind regards
Sounds like they are about as fed up with him as we are!
We don't give up quite so easily, though.
They may not be responsible for his comments, but they are responsible for providing him with a platform to make them to a large audience.
They can't just wave their hands and say "not our problem".
That's the press all over. They break the stories and when they get complaints it's a case of 'Hey, don't shoot the messenger'.
But we complain when he says nothing and then when he is interviewed we blame the press for interviewing him? Charlton is one part of his 'empire' and was only part of the interview. To the vast majority of the audience watching the channel, we are an utter irrelevance. If the roles were reversed would we expect BBC London to grill an owner about a club in Belgium when things were going wrong closer to home?
It's not realistic to expect a broadcaster to take responsibility for comments made by guests other than in very rare instances where the guests have been goaded or allowed way too much leeway (as with Bill Grundy/Sex Pistols). As for right of reply, there is no obligation for them to do so. He is the owner and he has made a comment. If it was a Belgian club they may well have tried to get fans on, but for them to find a representative of CARD (even if they knew who CARD are) who speaks Flemish might be asking a bit too much.
I get the impression that this is a very staid weekly show, probably on a channel mainly aimed at the over 50's... not entirely sure why Uncle Roland was trotted out to perform - perhaps they thought it was a useful link between the sport and his minumum income thing... As far as I know he's still a member of the Senate through his Open Vld party (although I may be wrong)... maybe the TV station have an obligation to include representatives of all parties from time to time?
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It's not realistic to expect a broadcaster to take responsibility for comments made by guests other than in very rare instances where the guests have been goaded or allowed way too much leeway (as with Bill Grundy/Sex Pistols). As for right of reply, there is no obligation for them to do so. He is the owner and he has made a comment. If it was a Belgian club they may well have tried to get fans on, but for them to find a representative of CARD (even if they knew who CARD are) who speaks Flemish might be asking a bit too much.
This is clearly an industry that she's not suited to, her performance has been quite frankly abysmal, she's made no visible effort to improve and has demonstrated no interest in her job. Simply put, I can't fathom any reason why she would want this industry under her belt - I genuinely do not expect her to be in it after she's removed from her post at Charlton.
"PS excuse my English, I learned it not from a book but from Louis Van Gaal."
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/4814/STVV/article/detail/3035960/2016/12/21/Zoveel-pompte-Duchatelet-al-in-Stayen.dhtml
So much pumped Duchâtelet already Stayen
21/12/16 - 05u50
Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke Höfte, President and strong man. In a rare interview late double torque clearly that they are always at STVV are having fun. STVV played football themselves from danger in recent weeks and they are both happy.
"Sint-Truiden is not an ambition club, but a sociability club. Play-off 1 is of secondary importance. As long as we are saved from relegation stress, it's fine." The renewed Stayen meanwhile is booming with nearly 1,000 people are employed every day. "The whole complex including apartments and parking is an investment of 100 million, but a realization that we are very proud."
And there are good plans that Roland Duchâtelet and Marieke intend to export. What exactly? You will discover now in our Zone Plus, exclusive to subscribers.
We have no ambition as a club but we employ a load of people in our restaurants etc. Wanker.
So, it suits him to run down the club, reduce the crowds and shove the few L1 away fans into the West Stand.
This way he has a guaranteed income as opposed to the roulette finances of football.
Of course he has since bought the club once more. Meanwhile he continues to acquire land adjacent to the Stayen with an eye on further development.
No matter results, everybody dance now!
Sadly, it wouldn't be too surprising to see Katrien being the CEO of "Charlton Leisure Precinct" or "The Valley Communal Center" in a few years time; a small football club nestled nice and cozily within the confines of "Valiant Wharf"; luxury riverside flats, complete with a multi screen cinema and restaurants. Think Greenwich Peninsular.. But with a tidy little 8k football ground.
Up until now I've thought such thoughts were fanciful, but the article Mountsfield has posted is depressing and the direction the club is going is clearly downward right now. After all, it sure feels like the small football club bit has come true, and The Valley certainly is looking "under-utilised" right now...
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/13852/karl-robinson-im-dark-charlton-owners-comments-dont-time-read-press/
The only thing he can do is pretend he doesn't know or hasn't looked into it yet, been too busy.
Like when Wenger "hasn't seen the footage" of one of his players diving, yet.
I hear Karl going on about the fans, but when I watched the post match he wasn't able to give the fans who made a bit of effort any acknowledgement. Maybe the one chant of 'we want Roland out' was what caused Karl to ignore the presence of our fans at Millwall.