however, our squad is crap - we probably only have a dozen players that are good enough for this league and 4 are those are out injured. KR cant work miracles & having listened to his press conference after the game I am willing to give him a chance. He knows the problems but cant do anything until 1) the transfer window opens and 2) players come back from injury.
We will just have to forget about the next couple of games & see where we are when we play Millwall again in mid January, If by then things haven't improved , THEN have a go.
Most bizarre part of the evening was at half time whilst there was a choir on the pitch trying to deliver Christmas carols, but there were about 50 blokes to our left just calling each other c*nts over the top of it.
I'm already getting bored of all this. Karl my old son you can have all the meetings you like, but the biggest issue was that the formation was shit! Lookman is no good in the hole, Ajose is not a right winger, Jackson should not be starting, I'm not sure that Chicksen is much of a left winger and Konsa is a centre back. You are culpable as you made those changes!
Good luck with all the meetings tomorrow but please note that one thing you and your team have definitely not made us tonight is proud. Quite the opposite in fact......
I liked that interview. Thought he was honest and looked gutted by what he saw. Many of the points he made were valid and I just hope that he does know what's needed. By what he said I think that he now knows that something is rotten at CAFC and he's looking to find out exactly what. I think the deep seated problems from top to bottom have shocked him a bit.
Good luck Karl. I think you have your work cut out.
PWR when I should be swilling down a bottle of the white stuff, if I had any sense.....
Tonight, for possibly the first time this season, I thought I could SERIOUSLY get behind the team- put all thoughts of why we are where we are to one side for once & concentrate on beating the scum. A hotly contested local derby with a packed away end " baying for blood" - surely the excitement would be contagious !
Sadly, those good intentions didn't last....
Two poor teams "battled" to show they were worse than each other for the best part of the first half until one of them decided enough was enough & gave up the fight.
No prizes for guessing which one.
Not content with one capitulation in the first 45, the slightly worse team decided to take a stab at giving even more Xmas cheer to the "others", hence one became two.
A brief respite followed during which the masses ( well 14,000+) were treated to a few seasonal songs. Cups were no doubt thrown in the away dressing room and loins were duly girded for the commencement of the fightback, whilst hugs were shared out & backs patted by the genial gaffer. With the addition of ANOTHER coach earlier today, it was a tight squeeze in there so the slightly downhearted lads were ushered out of the door to warm up on the pitch.
But, zut alors ! Fanny's lucky ba humbugs had barely hit the spot when the game took an unexpected turn & suddenly became a contest once more. Alas, false hope is always our bedfellow & the game was settled by a third sucker punch, sending the faithful home depressed, but unsurprised by the result.
No fight, no energy, no pressure, no game plan & therefore, no points. And even worse, no pride seemingly.
Yes, this was Millwall & we don't expect to take home the spoils.
But, tonight we plumbed the depths ....and will continue to do so as long as the crucial decisions emanate from Sint Truiden.
EVERYTHING at our famous football club is spoiled by the fingerprint of HWMBO.
And all his decisions & meddling can clearly now be witnessed in the body language & ineptitude of our players.
I believe that the constant changing of managers with their individual methods , together with the uncertainty around that crucial role is finally affecting the lads to the extent that it shows in their performances on the pitch. Confidence is low, creativity appears stifled & teamwork is merely a distant memory. It's all one unholy mess.
I have stated my uncertainty around KR's appointment previously & have seen little to temper it to date.
But IF this enthusiastic & ambitious young man can turn things around, with or without the assistance of the January window, then I shall be the first to admit I misjudged him and apologise.
But, as his predecessors discovered, the team will be the least of his worries....
That is the first time I have seen the team this season. Do Ajose and Magennis always carry that much weight? They are the fattest professional footballers I have seen playing the game since the 70s.
I honestly thought Robbo said something good things in that interview! I think he's one on one talks with the players later today will result in some leaving in Jan window! If that's getting rid of the wasters that's fine by me! He look like he's hurting after that shite yesterday! !!!
After listening to that interview, I'm left with the distinct impression that he is just making it all up as he is going along. He is full of sound bites and just seems to be trying to say what he thinks we want to hear. I'm increasingly sceptical, and although his record at MK Dons wasn't bad, I do fear that we have another dud on our hands. Genuinely hope I'm wrong.
After listening to that interview, I'm left with the distinct impression that he is just making it all up as he is going along. He is full of sound bites and just seems to be trying to say what he thinks we want to hear. I'm increasingly sceptical, and although his record at MK Dons wasn't bad, I do fear that we have another dud on our hands. Genuinely hope I'm wrong.
I totally agree, his body language in that interview is aweful, he looks like he has just been arrested and is trying to convince whoever is interviewing him he is innocent.
I am not in agreement that we should continue to keep changing the management but I feel this appointment will end in tears.
Unlucky lads. Got to say I wasn't expecting that at all. Although I was buoyed when I saw our line up and saw Morison and Webster were starting. I backed 2-1 Millwall but more with my heart than my head. Anyway, not going to gloat. It's your site so that would be out of order. Would just like to wish you all a Merry Christmas and looking forward to the return fixture in the new year.
After listening to that interview, I'm left with the distinct impression that he is just making it all up as he is going along. He is full of sound bites and just seems to be trying to say what he thinks we want to hear. I'm increasingly sceptical, and although his record at MK Dons wasn't bad, I do fear that we have another dud on our hands. Genuinely hope I'm wrong.
I totally agree, his body language in that interview is aweful, he looks like he has just been arrested and is trying to convince whoever is interviewing him he is innocent.
I am not in agreement that we should continue to keep changing the management but I feel this appointment will end in tears.
We should have stuck with Slade and had a decent transfer window in January.
I honestly thought Robbo said something good things in that interview! I think he's one on one talks with the players later today will result in some leaving in Jan window! If that's getting rid of the wasters that's fine by me! He look like he's hurting after that shite yesterday! !!!
Robinson could start with having a word with himself about his formations & asking himself why the players appear to have lost all belief & whatever defensive cohesion Charlton had has disappeared. Is it really just injuries ? Always have a word about cutting back on unnecessary media interviews & concentrate fully on managing the team.
Not sorry to see negative Slade fired. Nugent did much better with the players with a more positive approach. Maybe sticking with him a bit longer made more sense. The unbalanced & light squad was vulnerable to injuries but things are currently going backwards under KR. The performance & fight on the pitch in direct opposite reflection of Robinson's media hype. Perhaps not surprising when a large part of the team can see themselves elsewhere in January / end of the season. The rash of player injuries never a good sign. The players are not fighting for Robinson. It remains to be seen whether the individual player meetings he has helps or aggravates things further. The January window can't arrive soon enough. It needs to be a really good & productive one given the unbalanced state of the squad & dire central midfield.
Odd interview. Some genuinely honest and pertinent points together with load of old waffle. Demeanour that of a naughty schoolboy trying to explain himself. Obviously now realised what a crock of shite he's taken on and is worried. Switched off when he said Fox was an outstanding left back (or words to that effect). Troubled times indeed. I'll give this guy a transfer window but I can see that he'll become an object of derision sooner rather than later unless things take an unexpected change.
luckily fucked off on 65 minutes and stewards let me go no bother, went back to london bridge quick pint and was on the 10.04 to dartford, useless performance and an embarassment, what annoys me with this fixture is the 1 time fans, id rather take 500 then the amount of numpties there last night dismantling toilets etc. watched some bloke taking all the traps off the basins and throwing them round like whats the point. made a prediction that kr was useless and another puppet and think im bang on the money, useless twat.
Hasnt this little slump in form happened ever since o'louglin was introduced to the coaching staff? Is he running things and picking the team? The body language of the players is similar to when fraeye was in charge.please please roland please please sell our club.
luckily fucked off on 65 minutes and stewards let me go no bother, went back to london bridge quick pint and was on the 10.04 to dartford, useless performance and an embarassment, what annoys me with this fixture is the 1 time fans, id rather take 500 then the amount of numpties there last night dismantling toilets etc. watched some bloke taking all the traps off the basins and throwing them round like whats the point. made a prediction that kr was useless and another puppet and think im bang on the money, useless twat.
Left around the same time as you as I didn't know when the penning in would start. Just outside the ground was a lad passed out in his own sick. Got an Uber and was home by full time. Not going to another game until they are out of the club. Home or away.
The whole half time some fat lad who wouldn't say boo to a ghost on the far left side giving it all the big'un to their fans, and was just getting more wound up as they were reminding him of the score.... Very embarrassing
Highlight of the night was when our goal went in. A few of the Lads around me were going mental and one of them got his leg stuck in the gap between the upright seat and the back of the seat and was stuck there for a couple of minutes...
luckily fucked off on 65 minutes and stewards let me go no bother, went back to london bridge quick pint and was on the 10.04 to dartford, useless performance and an embarassment, what annoys me with this fixture is the 1 time fans, id rather take 500 then the amount of numpties there last night dismantling toilets etc. watched some bloke taking all the traps off the basins and throwing them round like whats the point. made a prediction that kr was useless and another puppet and think im bang on the money, useless twat.
Left around the same time as you as I didn't know when the penning in would start. Just outside the ground was a lad passed out in his own sick. Got an Uber and was home by full time. Not going to another game until they are out of the club. Home or away.
The whole half time some fat lad who wouldn't say boo to a ghost on the far left side giving it all the big'un to their fans, and was just getting more wound up as they were reminding him of the score.... Very embarrassing
Highlight of the night was when our goal went in. A few of the Lads around me were going mental and one of them got his leg stuck in the gap between the upright seat and the back of the seat and was stuck there for a couple of minutes...
saw the lad passed out aswell tried helping him to his feet and got told to "fuck off you c*&t" certainly seemed more prats on our side than theres today, wont be attending the home fixture.
luckily fucked off on 65 minutes and stewards let me go no bother, went back to london bridge quick pint and was on the 10.04 to dartford, useless performance and an embarassment, what annoys me with this fixture is the 1 time fans, id rather take 500 then the amount of numpties there last night dismantling toilets etc. watched some bloke taking all the traps off the basins and throwing them round like whats the point. made a prediction that kr was useless and another puppet and think im bang on the money, useless twat.
Left around the same time as you as I didn't know when the penning in would start. Just outside the ground was a lad passed out in his own sick. Got an Uber and was home by full time. Not going to another game until they are out of the club. Home or away.
The whole half time some fat lad who wouldn't say boo to a ghost on the far left side giving it all the big'un to their fans, and was just getting more wound up as they were reminding him of the score.... Very embarrassing
Highlight of the night was when our goal went in. A few of the Lads around me were going mental and one of them got his leg stuck in the gap between the upright seat and the back of the seat and was stuck there for a couple of minutes...
saw the lad passed out aswell tried helping him to his feet and got told to "fuck off you c*&t" certainly seemed more prats on our side than theres today, wont be attending the home fixture.
Unlucky... When I was walking by someone was shrieking (in jest) "Disgraceful" and I was saying "What would your mother say!" But that was about it for my enjoyment of the evening.
I thought it would be wank so got smashed , lunch in the Chop House , beer in some pub near London Bridge Copious amounts of lager in scum mates millwall box , was ready to run on pitch and c**t players off ,after game, if they did a warm down and they didn't , thankfully. More beers in Peckham or somewhere. Cab home at midnight 3 bank cards , Oyster card and front door key lost . I cancelled them out of my nut last night .
I thought it would be wank so got smashed , lunch in the Chop House , beer in some pub near London Bridge Copious amounts of lager in scum mates millwall box , was ready to run on pitch and c**t players off ,after game, if they did a warm down and they didn't , thankfully. More beers in Peckham or somewhere. Cab home at midnight 3 bank cards , Oyster card and front door key lost . I cancelled them out of my nut last night .
I hate/love Charlton
No wonder you can't see anything if the Missus had to answer the door............frying pan or rolling pin?
Just watched the goals and I hate to say it but the issue is clear... Prior to the match Millwall just quietly get on with matters, I went on their O/S and there was one interview about it being a local Derby and because of that their players wanted to win.
Just look at the goals; everyone scored just means so much to their players!!
Haven't seen passion from any player after a goal like that down the Valley for a long time
Just watched the goals and I hate to say it but the issue is clear... Prior to the match Millwall just quietly get on with matters, I went on their O/S and there was one interview about it being a local Derby and because of that their players wanted to win.
Just look at the goals; everyone scored just means so much to their players!!
Haven't seen passion from any player after a goal like that down the Valley for a long time
That's because we are broken, mangers changing every 4 to 6 months, players coming and going like they are going out of fashion, impossible to engender any team spirit.
That's what you get when as a club you are rotten from the top down and we are the poor sods suffering big time as a result. Just sell the club.
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I bet he's a right narky f****** when the chips inevitably face down.
however, our squad is crap - we probably only have a dozen players that are good enough for this league and 4 are those are out injured. KR cant work miracles & having listened to his press conference after the game I am willing to give him a chance. He knows the problems but cant do anything until 1) the transfer window opens and 2) players come back from injury.
We will just have to forget about the next couple of games & see where we are when we play Millwall again in mid January, If by then things haven't improved , THEN have a go.
Good luck with all the meetings tomorrow but please note that one thing you and your team have definitely not made us tonight is proud. Quite the opposite in fact......
Good luck Karl. I think you have your work cut out.
Tonight, for possibly the first time this season, I thought I could SERIOUSLY get behind the team- put all thoughts of why we are where we are to one side for once & concentrate on beating the scum. A hotly contested local derby with a packed away end " baying for blood" - surely the excitement would be contagious !
Sadly, those good intentions didn't last....
Two poor teams "battled" to show they were worse than each other for the best part of the first half until one of them decided enough was enough & gave up the fight.
No prizes for guessing which one.
Not content with one capitulation in the first 45, the slightly worse team decided to take a stab at giving even more Xmas cheer to the "others", hence one became two.
A brief respite followed during which the masses ( well 14,000+) were treated to a few seasonal songs. Cups were no doubt thrown in the away dressing room and loins were duly girded for the commencement of the fightback, whilst hugs were shared out & backs patted by the genial gaffer. With the addition of ANOTHER coach earlier today, it was a tight squeeze in there so the slightly downhearted lads were ushered out of the door to warm up on the pitch.
But, zut alors ! Fanny's lucky ba humbugs had barely hit the spot when the game took an unexpected turn & suddenly became a contest once more. Alas, false hope is always our bedfellow & the game was settled by a third sucker punch, sending the faithful home depressed, but unsurprised by the result.
No fight, no energy, no pressure, no game plan & therefore, no points. And even worse, no pride seemingly.
Yes, this was Millwall & we don't expect to take home the spoils.
But, tonight we plumbed the depths ....and will continue to do so as long as the crucial decisions emanate from Sint Truiden.
EVERYTHING at our famous football club is spoiled by the fingerprint of HWMBO.
And all his decisions & meddling can clearly now be witnessed in the body language & ineptitude of our players.
I believe that the constant changing of managers with their individual methods , together with the uncertainty around that crucial role is finally affecting the lads to the extent that it shows in their performances on the pitch. Confidence is low, creativity appears stifled & teamwork is merely a distant memory. It's all one unholy mess.
I have stated my uncertainty around KR's appointment previously & have seen little to temper it to date.
But IF this enthusiastic & ambitious young man can turn things around, with or without the assistance of the January window, then I shall be the first to admit I misjudged him and apologise.
But, as his predecessors discovered, the team will be the least of his worries....
I am not in agreement that we should continue to keep changing the management but I feel this appointment will end in tears.
I will continue to bang the stability drum.
The whole half time some fat lad who wouldn't say boo to a ghost on the far left side giving it all the big'un to their fans, and was just getting more wound up as they were reminding him of the score.... Very embarrassing
Highlight of the night was when our goal went in. A few of the Lads around me were going mental and one of them got his leg stuck in the gap between the upright seat and the back of the seat and was stuck there for a couple of minutes...
I thought it would be wank so got smashed , lunch in the Chop House , beer in some pub near London Bridge
Copious amounts of lager in scum mates millwall box , was ready to run on pitch and c**t players off ,after game, if they did a warm down and they didn't , thankfully.
More beers in Peckham or somewhere.
Cab home at midnight
3 bank cards , Oyster card and front door key lost .
I cancelled them out of my nut last night .
I hate/love Charlton
Just look at the goals; everyone scored just means so much to their players!!
Haven't seen passion from any player after a goal like that down the Valley for a long time
That's what you get when as a club you are rotten from the top down and we are the poor sods suffering big time as a result. Just sell the club.