Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
More by luck than judgement - which is clear going by past appointments, but we have stumbled on a very good manager who is a great fit for us. Support the manager and team, but not the regime.
More by luck than judgement - which is clear going by past appointmets, but we have stumbled on a very good manager who is a great fit for us. Support the manager and team, but not the regime.
This. I really like KR. Yeah he's a salesman. But he also seems a very astute, attack-minded coach who can spot a player. And the players are playing for him.
Robinson has toned down the scouse wide boy 'ello la', ow's it goin' act and is all the better for it .. this post match discussion was accurate and sensible .. BUT as I wrote on another post, in the long term he will be judged by the team's results and performances and not by his elocution and rhetoric
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Again PA that's pretty harsh !!!! Hapless KR. Ffs.
Just my opinion but I think he's done alright in what I will agree are probably difficult circumstances. Hapless is uncalled for and it's starting to sound very much like a witch hunt by some posters regarding the manager.
Duchatelet and Meire are there to be shot at but I think some of you are being very unfair about Robinson.
I am not "pissing on the club". I am criticising Robinson for a totally unnecessary comment, unsupported by any evidence, which in my opinion detracted from a fine performance both by the team and by him.
You are criticising Robinson, unsupported by any knowledge or understanding of discussion behind the scenes about the squad and the window. It is you who are detracting from the win in such a blatant manner. It appears that some like to moan when the club failed to communicate effectively and now some moan when it does communicate.
Ok point take on appraisal, I thought you meant you needed to reappraise. I certainly think some posters do.
But blimey Prague, I'm a big fan of your analytical mind. I just think you're pointing it in the wrong direction. If we don't make any signings and don't make the play-offs, it won't really matter what Robinson did or didn't say four months ago. He's probably going to say a hell of a lot more between now and then anyway!
What I want Jimmy, is some open and honest communication from this regime. I do not think that the important things we need to hear about, should come via the manager, precisely because, as you infer, they are outside his control. I have not been one of those who has openly criticised his comments up to now, but I do think he has said too much, about things he need not have referred to at all, and has made himself a hostage to fortune as a result. Maybe it is a result of his relative youth as much as his Scouse background.
Now that we have open communication before and after games from KR, you seek to change your request. You want it from somebody else!
When football fans across the country sit down to watch MotD or Sky Sports, they get to hear from the managers after the game. When Liverpool lost to Wolves yesterday, was it Jurgen Klopp who spoke to the result and other matters. Or did they fly somebody over from the States from Fenway Sports Group?!
Perhaps your request is naive? Why is it that when fans want to hear about the football, the squad, injuries and transfers you want to hear that from somebody other than the manager? Who better than the man who has day to day charge of the squad to deliver that narrative?
Cant believe people want to knock Robinson I for one am optimistic for the the future. He is cocky and full of himself but so what: if he instills half that belief into the playets we will do well. Next week we get a result and game on. Worth mentioning ourselves and Fleetwood are the divisions form teams.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Again PA that's pretty harsh !!!! Hapless KR. Ffs.
Just my opinion but I think he's done alright in what I will agree are probably difficult circumstances. Hapless is uncalled for and it's starting to sound very much like a witch hunt by some posters regarding the manager.
Duchatelet and Meire are there to be shot at but I think some of you are being very unfair about Robinson.
Just my view.
And mine. And obviously, because of my family connection, I know everything there is to know about managers, and football generally. Yes I do. Never been wrong. Never.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
KR appointed end of November ...he didn't exactly have much time to map out plans for the window, hence the need to spend more time with RD in Belgium.
Why or why people just bloody moan at anything that comes out of the club is beyond me, don't suppose he would give a Scouse toss, KR that is, but dammed if he does dammed if he dosn't, best manager we have had since CP and could be an even better one. Ps I also detest the regime.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Again PA that's pretty harsh !!!! Hapless KR. Ffs.
Just my opinion but I think he's done alright in what I will agree are probably difficult circumstances. Hapless is uncalled for and it's starting to sound very much like a witch hunt by some posters regarding the manager.
Duchatelet and Meire are there to be shot at but I think some of you are being very unfair about Robinson.
Just my view.
Sorry, mate, again you've lost me. Maybe I have lost my grasp of the language. I used the word "hapless" in a way which was meant to be sympathetic towards Robinson. It is preposterous and outrageous that Duchatelet hired Robinson close to the window and then apparently left him to get on with it, without in any way setting up a process to optimise the opportunity of the looming transfer window. That is a criticism of Duchatelet, not Robinson. I felt sorry for Robinson, having to say and do what he did. "Try and get a board meeting" is a pathetic statement but it is the state of the club that is pathetic, not Robinson as a man.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
You don't like what he says, fair enough, I disagree with him sometimes too but @major dont claim to speak for anyone else.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
You don't like what he says, fair enough, I disagree with him sometimes too but @major dont claim to speak for anyone else.
I don't have to claim anything. Just read people's responses to the constant negativity.
I suggest there is a gross over reaction to the comments being made here.
Who precisely is detracting from the win? It was an impressive result.
If it were me I would have said absolutely nothing - the result said all that needed to be said. Why deflect from it and the effort of the lads in securing a win in very difficult circumstances? Why not just let the lads enjoy the accolades?
In terms of the season it is a potential "momentum changer". It has pushed ajar a play off door that was inexorably closing.
The difficulties of the January transfer window are not news. It has been the same since the inception of the revised transfer windows. It is the same for every club at this time of year who may have some money to spend. It is why Everton will have coughed up the money for Lookman. If we were in any doubt Mr Robinson has kindly informed us about it regularly over the past two/three weeks.
It is not the crime of the century but a simple response to the effect "everyone knows the difficulties of the market, we are still trying to make things happen to help the squad progress but we don't get to spend the money twice" was all that was necessary.
Job done and we all move on until Tuesday/ Wednesday.
So why all the comment?
Robinson is the first manager under this regime who has just argued he has been empowered to spend to bring in resources.
Powell was empowered with sub standard cast offs.
Riga was rejected because he wanted a greater say in the resources he could bring in.
Peeters walked off into the sunset bemoaning the lack of executive support.
Luzon expecting 3 new signings in an August transfer window was still waiting as he left the building months later.
Slade was left scratching around for anything remotely resembling an effective midfield.
Robinson has regularly stated to do his job he needs to bring in more bodies.
He is now saying he can spend money to do just that but HE is uncomfortable with the market prices and is reluctant to spend it.
90% of managers no matter the area of business face the same challenges but if I set a manager a target and empower them with the resources to do the job then guess what? I expect them to do the job, especially when I have made a managerial change to bring them in.
I continue to wish him the very best in his endeavours. He does have something about him but then on the other hand so did Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon and Slade. I appreciate he likes to talk but he really needs to learn at times it is better to say nothing at all.
No matter the reality of the financial boundaries under which he is operating I await with interest any developments over the next few days.
At that point Mr Robinson the floor will be all yours
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
You don't like what he says, fair enough, I disagree with him sometimes too but @major dont claim to speak for anyone else.
I don't have to claim anything. Just read people's responses to the constant negativity.
Oh yes, meant to add, thank you for telling me how to conduct myself.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
Why or why people just bloody moan at anything that comes out of the club is beyond me, don't suppose he would give a Scouse toss, KR that is, but dammed if he does dammed if he dosn't, best manager we have had since CP and could be an even better one. Ps I also detest the regime.
'Best manager we have had since CP and could be an even better one'
This got me thinking.
Chris Powell was a club hero that loved the institution down to its very foundations. He put together a team for arguably less money than we've spent this season, when we were at an extremely low ebb, and went on to break the points record for League 1.
By comparison, Karl Robinson is a manager that has so far totalled 3, maybe 4 (?) wins. He seems a good guy, and is probably the first manager since CP that has tried to become part of the 'fabric' of CAFC, rather than just turning up for work like some sort of contract hire (Guy Luzon, I'm looking at you).
Could he be the best we've had since Powell? Perhaps. But surely at the moment that is by virtue of the fact that everyone else (bar possibly Riga) has ended up stinking the place out in one way or another.
Recent history has taught me that each new managerial appointment has brought a spell of excitement and hope. Peeters punching the air, Luzon running down the touchline to celebrate wildly, even Slade - smashing Shrewsbury 3-0 and 'we all dream of a team of Ricky Holmes'. It has never lasted for very long.
We all want Robinson to thrive. It's just that it doesn't take a great deal of imagination or memory to see that there's a pretty decent chance the whole thing could fall to pieces again. Personally I will hold fire on making a comparison to our best manager of recent years.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
Uncalled for Major. Prague has theories, some I agree with, some I don't. But he is perfectly entitled to express them here.
Unfair to criticise Robinson for not wanting to let clubs take the piss with over inflated prices. Curbishley never used to do it and I don't want any Charlton manager to feel he doesn't have a responsibility to manage his budget.
Totally against this regime for all the reasons we already know.
However, I agree with you SHG ... on this occasion, there is no basis to criticise KR. If he is lying, that's one hell of a conspiracy theory that is being implied.
I don't think he told a cold deliberate lie. I think he just talked out of his arse without thinking too much about the words he used. After all, "extortion" is as loaded an accusation as "lie".
Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
Hey, Einstein. How about you give it a rest about knowing everything? You don't. All you do is spout bile at every opportunity and if there is no reason you come up with one of your 'theories'. Well guess what? It has long since become pathetic and I'm pretty sure, that like me, most people do not give a monkeys what you think.
You don't like what he says, fair enough, I disagree with him sometimes too but @major dont claim to speak for anyone else.
I don't have to claim anything. Just read people's responses to the constant negativity.
Oh yes, meant to add, thank you for telling me how to conduct myself.
Conduct yourself how you like, even be chippy like you are being now, just don't claim to speak for others.
that reads like there is something personal behind it.
I don't think Prague spouts bile and like everyone is entitled to his opinion
Not in the sense that we have ever met, I am pretty certain. At least @seriously_red and I know each other; I just find his arguments so tortuous, and his positions so fleeting, that it doesn't seem worth engaging. Life's too short.
Robinson's attitude and approach, at least to PR matters, talking to 'the media' etc. has settled down .. how he approaches the players is unknown of course .. I'll say ad infinitum, ignore the front, the bullshit, the chitchat to please the 'interviewers' and judge him on his results come the end of the season .. cos he is going NOWHERE until then at the very earliest
I'm not feeling great and have a bunged up nose so cant smell anything... But even I can smell this bullshit
Robinson says he’s been given the green light by owner Duchatelet to further bolster his squad but the Addicks manager is unwilling to do so at overinflated prices.
“The owner has said I can,” said the former Milton Keynes boss.
“It’s not like they’ve said no to me. I just can’t get my head around some of the figures that we’ve been told for certain players. It’s extortion and its wrong. It’s amazing that Charlton seem to have to pay top dollar and everyone else seems to get away with a bit of a discount.
Spot on. As if Robinson cares how much it costs to buy a player? It's not his money he's spending. If he wants a player, he'll spend whatever Roland let's him have to get them in.
We never made statements like this about Curbs and he treated the Clubs money as his own. Perhaps this is a tactic by KR to tell people he is approaching we wont be screwed on price, saves the discussion at the beginning.
Pardew on the other hand said that it was his job to get the club to spend as much as possible, it was the clubs job to decide what they could afford.
Robinson's attitude and approach, at least to PR matters, talking to 'the media' etc. has settled down .. how he approaches the players is unknown of course .. I'll say ad infinitum, ignore the front, the bullshit, the chitchat to please the 'interviewers' and judge him on his results come the end of the season .. cos he is going NOWHERE until then at the very earliest
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Everyone seems to have forgotten our discussion in December, that most well run clubs had their plan for the window already mapped out, whereas the hapless KR had to make his infamous trip to Belgium to "try and get a board meeting". Had we been a well run club we could have made an agreement on our key targets before we sold Lookman and Fox, thus preventing the perception that we are loaded with cash to splash (although i think most clubs have already sussed out RD and realise that most normal behaviour patterns don't apply)
I really like KR. Yeah he's a salesman. But he also seems a very astute, attack-minded coach who can spot a player.
And the players are playing for him.
BUT as I wrote on another post, in the long term he will be judged by the team's results and performances and not by his elocution and rhetoric
Just my opinion but I think he's done alright in what I will agree are probably difficult circumstances. Hapless is uncalled for and it's starting to sound very much like a witch hunt by some posters regarding the manager.
Duchatelet and Meire are there to be shot at but I think some of you are being very unfair about Robinson.
Just my view.
When football fans across the country sit down to watch MotD or Sky Sports, they get to hear from the managers after the game. When Liverpool lost to Wolves yesterday, was it Jurgen Klopp who spoke to the result and other matters. Or did they fly somebody over from the States from Fenway Sports Group?!
Perhaps your request is naive? Why is it that when fans want to hear about the football, the squad, injuries and transfers you want to hear that from somebody other than the manager? Who better than the man who has day to day charge of the squad to deliver that narrative?
Perhaps you might explain?
And obviously, because of my family connection, I know everything there is to know about managers, and football generally. Yes I do.
Never been wrong. Never.
I don't think Prague spouts bile and like everyone is entitled to his opinion
Who precisely is detracting from the win? It was an impressive result.
If it were me I would have said absolutely nothing - the result said all that needed to be said. Why deflect from it and the effort of the lads in securing a win in very difficult circumstances? Why not just let the lads enjoy the accolades?
In terms of the season it is a potential "momentum changer". It has pushed ajar a play off door that was inexorably closing.
The difficulties of the January transfer window are not news. It has been the same since the inception of the revised transfer windows. It is the same for every club at this time of year who may have some money to spend. It is why Everton will have coughed up the money for Lookman. If we were in any doubt Mr Robinson has kindly informed us about it regularly over the past two/three weeks.
It is not the crime of the century but a simple response to the effect "everyone knows the difficulties of the market, we are still trying to make things happen to help the squad progress but we don't get to spend the money twice" was all that was necessary.
Job done and we all move on until Tuesday/ Wednesday.
So why all the comment?
Robinson is the first manager under this regime who has just argued he has been empowered to spend to bring in resources.
Powell was empowered with sub standard cast offs.
Riga was rejected because he wanted a greater say in the resources he could bring in.
Peeters walked off into the sunset bemoaning the lack of executive support.
Luzon expecting 3 new signings in an August transfer window was still waiting as he left the building months later.
Slade was left scratching around for anything remotely resembling an effective midfield.
Robinson has regularly stated to do his job he needs to bring in more bodies.
He is now saying he can spend money to do just that but HE is uncomfortable with the market prices and is reluctant to spend it.
90% of managers no matter the area of business face the same challenges but if I set a manager a target and empower them with the resources to do the job then guess what? I expect them to do the job, especially when I have made a managerial change to bring them in.
I continue to wish him the very best in his endeavours. He does have something about him but then on the other hand so did Powell, Riga, Peeters, Luzon and Slade. I appreciate he likes to talk but he really needs to learn at times it is better to say nothing at all.
No matter the reality of the financial boundaries under which he is operating I await with interest any developments over the next few days.
At that point Mr Robinson the floor will be all yours
This got me thinking.
Chris Powell was a club hero that loved the institution down to its very foundations. He put together a team for arguably less money than we've spent this season, when we were at an extremely low ebb, and went on to break the points record for League 1.
By comparison, Karl Robinson is a manager that has so far totalled 3, maybe 4 (?) wins. He seems a good guy, and is probably the first manager since CP that has tried to become part of the 'fabric' of CAFC, rather than just turning up for work like some sort of contract hire (Guy Luzon, I'm looking at you).
Could he be the best we've had since Powell? Perhaps. But surely at the moment that is by virtue of the fact that everyone else (bar possibly Riga) has ended up stinking the place out in one way or another.
Recent history has taught me that each new managerial appointment has brought a spell of excitement and hope. Peeters punching the air, Luzon running down the touchline to celebrate wildly, even Slade - smashing Shrewsbury 3-0 and 'we all dream of a team of Ricky Holmes'. It has never lasted for very long.
We all want Robinson to thrive. It's just that it doesn't take a great deal of imagination or memory to see that there's a pretty decent chance the whole thing could fall to pieces again. Personally I will hold fire on making a comparison to our best manager of recent years.
Beautifully put!
All part of the phoney war, I suppose.
Pardew on the other hand said that it was his job to get the club to spend as much as possible, it was the clubs job to decide what they could afford.