Both hick and ramprakash were two brilliant batsmen utterly ruined by the bizarre selection policy in the 90's. I think they both were constantly moved up and down the order and never left to settle to nail down a position. Thus the number of tests they played and their averages don't tell even half the story.
I would have to take issue with some of that mate.
Graeme Hick was given 65 test matches, and averaged 31, whilst Ramprakash played 52 tests for an average of 27.
They both were given extended runs in the team, batting in a settled spot (Hick at 5 and Ramps at 3), but for a whole variety of reasons, neither of them ever cemented their places.
I always felt that Hick's biggest challenge, was the fact that he was built up as our batting saviour during his wait for qualification, and then never fully recovered from the Windies roughing him up in his debut series in 1991.
As for Ramps, I have heard more than one person say that he was simply too intense, and wanted to suceed too much. He put himself under ridiculous pressure to perform, and just couldn't cope with the fear of failure at test level.
Won't argue that they were both fine players though.
I'm suggesting that bowling short at these two batsmen is probably not going to work. Elgar plays the short one brilliantly and Bavuma's about 4 feet tall so he'll have seen a bouncer or two in his life
No - one has ever taken a hat-trick in 100 tests at The Oval - would have been quite fitting for Stokes after his century in first innings.
It would have been nice but of all the great bowlers to have played test cricket at the oval Stokes doesn't feel right as the first one in that list.
Having said that Chris Tremlett has an ODI hat trick so clearly being a good bowler has nothing to do with it.
Point still stands. Of all the greats to bowl in a test match at the oval it'll always be strange that 'a batter who bowls a bit' is the one who takes the first hat trick.
Mo is the first spinner to do so for England in a test match since 1938
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Graeme Hick was given 65 test matches, and averaged 31, whilst Ramprakash played 52 tests for an average of 27.
They both were given extended runs in the team, batting in a settled spot (Hick at 5 and Ramps at 3), but for a whole variety of reasons, neither of them ever cemented their places.
I always felt that Hick's biggest challenge, was the fact that he was built up as our batting saviour during his wait for qualification, and then never fully recovered from the Windies roughing him up in his debut series in 1991.
As for Ramps, I have heard more than one person say that he was simply too intense, and wanted to suceed too much. He put himself under ridiculous pressure to perform, and just couldn't cope with the fear of failure at test level.
Won't argue that they were both fine players though.
Get Moeen on ffs
Whats the size of crowd?
cricindiacricinfo , which after the re-vamp is shite.If he had got the hat-trick I think almost certainly would be MOTM
7 down.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05b5j5t
Absolute Jaffa. Brilliant stuff.
What a way to win the game!!
Mo is the first spinner to do so for England in a test match since 1938