Anybody even remotely considering going out to the World Cup next year?
This makes for worrying reading.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/feb/16/england-fans-2018-world-cup-russia-hooligans?CMP=twt_guDocumentary tonight on BBC 2 at 9pm.
I'm still considering going, I was in Marseille and managed to largely avoid any violence so hopefully touch wood and all that I can do the same in Russia...
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However, none of the cities appeals to me. Will make a decision after the draw.
Unfortunately the next two world cups, Russia then Qatar are countries which have more then questionable values. I'll still be going though, I guess that means charlton means more to me then supporting basic human rights around the world....make of that what you will :-)
Is that like being called John Johnson Smith?
Seriously though, I am up for Russia, went to France and loved it - and provided normal precautions are taken I'm sure Russia won't be too mental especially if you avoid England games.
Maybe for the first time it is slightly justified this time.
I didn't go to Russia in 2007 for the qualifier, but from speaking to people who went, I would suspect of the 7k who did travel that time, I'm sure a significant proportion said never again.
I was in Marseille and avoided any problems, but you could easily had come unstuck without looking for it - wrong place wrong time as always. And you could easily get involved if you did want it. Shame the Russians chose (maybe intentionally, maybe not) easy targets on the whole, but I guess they're not alone in that tactic.
Done 3 games in Ukraine with England - The two qualifiers were very edgy and dodgy and one of only two places I've been attacked. Shame as it has a lot going for it at 30p a pint. The tournament in Ukraine however went off relatively peacefully and the exact some stories and doc was played in the build up to that tournament too.
I'll see what my situation is at the time, but if I did go I'd possibly use organised trips for the first time in my life. For those wanting to visit Russia as their main motivation for going, I'd suggest going some other time would be both calmer and cheaper.
Just asking
I think the reason I got a flag is because I am known to be a member of the dominant middle-class Guardian-reading leftwing elite that sneeringly dominates this forum, grinding the faces of the genuine working class into the mud, and it is understandable to assume that I will take any opportunity to denigrate the English on the grounds that we are responsible for everything, or something like that.
Tell a lie, Turkey submitted their bid yesterday FFS.
Agree about waiting to see where and who we are playing though. Don't care if we get Argentina and Germany just do not want Russia.
Algeria would be a joke. Wouldn't put anything past the mugs that run FIFA.
2018 - russia - hooligans
2020 - all over europe
2022 - no alcohol and in a country where human rights dont exist.
2024 - turkey - get a bit stabby.
2026 - algeria - similar to turkey/ had enough of the nationals in marseille and so i could only imagine the reception england would recieve out there.
asia or eufa not allowed to host so will be one of these;
CONCACAF:
Canada
United States
Mexico
(all seperate but has been agreed that they could have it joint between all 3, possibly pre trump)
CONMEBOL:
Colombia
CAF:
Morocco
Algeria