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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • what is fecking laughable is the fact, that they get to this stage and pull out because of the price, fuck me you surely know the price whilst entering into discussions and especially the Aussie's know what he will and won't accept, what a shambles.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    edited January 2019
    se9addick said:

    Uboat said:

    Why are we still taking about the ground? Didn't that plan depend on the now-withdrawn Americans?

    Despite the dozens of posts on this I am still unclear. Have the Americans withdrawn from the purchase process ? You would assume that if that’s the case then the takeover is off with the Australian Consortium not having the money.

    Furthermore. Is there a meeting this evening ?

    I seem to recall @nth london addick saying from day 1 that the Aussies didn’t have/didn’t want to spend the money, looks like he was right all along.
    At one point, just the mention from anybody of anything negative regarding the Aussie take-over was scoffed at on here and other social media outlets. Spose it shows how desperate the situation was and still is.

    But at least the team and manager are doin their bit to give the fans something to cheer about
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited January 2019

    Halix said:

    So if ive got this straight, we could be moving from a billionaire owner who isnt prepared to invest, to Australian owners who havent got any money to invest, and who have had to raise the money by selling the freehold to third party American money men.

    I cant really see this being any great improvement.

    It would be far, far worse.
    The other thing that worries me is why are the Australians working so hard to buy us? They arent fans, theres no huge financial reward, theres any number of clubs that are suitable (and probably cheaper) unless they have found a previously unknown diamond mine under the carpark, or struck oil when doing the survey I cant see what their motivation is.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    Effectively two different sets of investors owning different parts of the club/assets is a recipe for disaster.

    What could possibly go wrong!!!

    You couldn't make it up.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    Pretty simple question, are the Americans in or out? If they are out is it over?

    The answer is nobody knows, even those that say they are "in the know". If Jim White back tracks any further he will doing tomorrows show from the pavement.
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875

    Pretty simple question, are the Americans in or out? If they are out is it over?

    The answer is nobody knows, even those that say they are "in the know". If Jim White back tracks any further he will doing tomorrows show from the pavement Belgium!.
  • Daarrzzetbum
    Daarrzzetbum Posts: 1,236

    Pretty simple question, are the Americans in or out? If they are out is it over?

    The answer is nobody knows, even those that say they are "in the know". If Jim White back tracks any further he will doing tomorrows show from the pavement.
    Amen to that, we will only find out for sure if it happens, & if it dosn't we may get a few answers.
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Anybody else got the feeling, we're just being played ?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Both called Jim -

    https://youtu.be/cZmnYnEmmtw
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    If you run the club well, Charlton offers advantages over other clubs in terms of ultimate potential IMO.
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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    Anybody else got the feeling, we're just being played ?

    If you are just getting it you must have suffered over the last few days. I take anything Jim White says with a large pinch of salt.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888
    If the Americans are the new investors but are only providing the cash to buy the assets, ie are not involved in running the club, then that explains why the F&P test is not an issue - it doesn’t apply.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited January 2019

    If you run the club well, Charlton offers advantages over other clubs in terms of ultimate potential IMO.

    Really, what? We are a unfashionable club, with a squad of players that will soon be out of contract, losing huge monies and with a disgruntled support base. We do have a young improving manager, a good badge and a location in London but cant otherwise see why we have a lot of advantages over say Portsmouth or Brentford.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited January 2019
    I can now see how dangerous words can be when they are misinterpreted. Henry Irving may be the Geoff Boycott of CL but at least he leaves every thing alone that pitches in the corridor of uncertainty. (WIOTOS)

    I now understand how a lynch mob comes about. Folk adding words or ignoring for their own narrative.

    Never seen so many, beamers, googlies and no balls and that's before the spinners turn up. Please may it be over soon before we are stumped and it's too late to bail out.

    I do give a toss.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    edited January 2019
    This meeting is apparently going ahead at the Greenhithe Royal British Legion Club.

    Starts at 8pm with a time slot of 15 minutes.

    They'll be bingo and karaoke afterwards with Doris set to hum the theme tune from Rainbow.

    The quiz will be compèred by Ted with the specialist subject this week 'Famous Belgian twats'.

    Amateurs the lot of them.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195

    Anybody else got the feeling, we're just being played ?

    No. What does that even mean?
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited January 2019

    Anybody else got the feeling, we're just being played ?

    And there seems to be one hell of a lot of extra time and play acting.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    @Davo55 is there enough left in the protest fund to buy a tank?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited January 2019
    There is no conspiracy going on. Sorry to break it to you all but Roland doesn’t even know any of you exist, why would he care about playing games with something that commands less than 2% of his interest?



    Reading between the lines, here is the situation in simple terms:

    -Roland STILL wants too much money

    -The Aussies (GM led) are STILL interested in buying but either don’t have enough money or don’t want to pay the asking price in full

    -The Aussies (and the broker) thought they had a deal whereby the Aussies buy the club while new American investors buy the ground etc.

    -The Americans have pulled out leaving us back where we were a few weeks ago.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Halix said:

    If you run the club well, Charlton offers advantages over other clubs in terms of ultimate potential IMO.

    really, what? We are a unfashionable club, with a squad of players that will soon be out of contract, losing huge monies and with a disgruntled support base. We do have a young improving manager, a good badge and a location in London but cant otherwise see why we have a lot of advantages over say Portsmouth or Brentford.
    Ok, here goes:

    1 We are a London club - that in itself makes us more valuable with easy links to central London and the City
    2 We have a very good stadium that can be expanded relatively easily
    3 We have a good potential for new supporters given the lack of any competition bar Gillingham if you travel south of the Valley
    4 We are near the 02 and other developments, including the building of many new homes and the infrastructure that goes with it.
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280



    CAFCsayer said:

    Australian consortium according to JW.

    Doesn't that contradict what Airman said the other day?

    American money, based on holding the assets. Australian control, based on owning the football club. However, the same source says the Americans will now back off.

    This isn’t via JW, by the way.
    how does that work? American company buy the ground and training facilities and aussie company buy the club?
    Sounds like it to me.
    This cannot happpen and is a receipe for disaster.
    Bring back the pigs...!!
    Or the pig puns, coz i'm getting really boared with whats going on, cant you all see we have been taking it for grunted that it was all going through - but, Babe, we were all just piggies in the middle.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222

    There is no conspiracy going on. Sorry to break it to you all but Roland doesn’t even know any of you exist, why would he care about playing games with something that commands less than 2% of his interest?



    Reading between the lines, here is the situation in simple terms:

    -Roland STILL wants too much money

    -The Aussies (GM led) are STILL interested in buying but either don’t have enough money or don’t want to pay the asking price in full

    -The Aussies (and the broker) thought they had a deal whereby the Aussies buy the club while new American investors buy the ground etc.

    -The Americans have pulled out leaving us back where we were a few weeks ago.

    All plausible, especially IMHO Duchatelet. Not sure about the Americans and their role but I'm not ITK.

    What I do think is that White said the meeting was today. It may be taking place now or not even have started so we can't be sure what the outcome of that meeting was or will be.



  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    @Airman Brown can you give context to your comment about the Americans walking away?
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    Lets hope this is true, when you look at what happend to Dulwich Hamlet when they sold the ground to an American.
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    Fumbluff said:

    @Davo55 is there enough left in the protest fund to buy a tank?

    Do you really want me to spend another pleasant hour in the company of PC Plod in Eltham nick? :smile:
  • Macronate said:

    This meeting is apparently going ahead at the Greenhithe Royal British Legion Club.

    Starts at 8pm with a time slot of 15 minutes.

    They'll be bingo and karaoke afterwards with Doris set to hum the theme tune from Rainbow.

    The quiz will be compared by Ted with the specialist subject this week 'Famous Belgian twats'.

    Amateurs the lot of them.

    Are there any tickets left?
  • J BLOCK said:

    @Airman Brown can you give context to your comment about the Americans walking away?

    Americans don't walk anywhere. Surely they'd get in their SUVs and drive away
  • N01R4M
    N01R4M Posts: 2,577



    CAFCsayer said:

    Australian consortium according to JW.

    Doesn't that contradict what Airman said the other day?

    American money, based on holding the assets. Australian control, based on owning the football club. However, the same source says the Americans will now back off.

    This isn’t via JW, by the way.
    how does that work? American company buy the ground and training facilities and aussie company buy the club?
    Sounds like it to me.
    This cannot happpen and is a receipe for disaster.
    Bring back the pigs...!!
    Or the pig puns, coz i'm getting really boared with whats going on, cant you all see we have been taking it for grunted that it was all going through - but, Babe, we were all just piggies in the middle.
    You sound disgruntled, @The_President !
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,803
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