The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Oy! Argh! It's impossible to keep track of it all!!! 189 pages.LargeAddick said:
The Aussies then, AFC, are not the Aussies involved now.NapaAddick said:The moment I heard that the Aussies were trying to "figure out financing" a couple months ago, I suspected right then that I did not want them, and said so, here. Anything less than someone worth at least several hundred million dollars, and we are toast. long term.
It could get worse than RD. Maybe not in personality, but in operations and ambition. Poor operators rarely do well in football. Especially now.0 -
The low level investment level to get a seat at the table with the Ozzies was £5-10 million. They were definitely courting bigger fish though.1
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Acworth??Swisdom said:Someone ITK on another forum seems to think Roly will keep some form of interest should a purchase go through
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Duchatelet and Meire have shown themselves to have zero ambition for our football club, that is ambition as we the fans, or any football fans, would see it.NapaAddick said:The moment I heard that the Aussies were trying to "figure out financing" a couple months ago, I suspected right then that I did not want them, and said so, here. Anything less than someone worth at least several hundred million dollars, and we are toast. long term.
It could get worse than RD. Maybe not in personality, but in operations and ambition. Poor operators rarely do well in football. Especially now.
As far as operations go, I have a litany of mistakes and incompetence perpetrated by these a.......s since they took over. Then multiply that by the experiences of thousands of other Addicks.2 -
I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.0
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Worse than what? Where do you think the club will be in three or five years time with these clowns in charge?NapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
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BolloxNapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
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I know Charlton fans are pessimistic, but the whole, 'What if the new owners are worse than Roland?' mindset is bewildering.44
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Not sure if you're on a wind up mate but can you explain how you draw this conclusion. I wasn't aware that before the Hedge Fund that currently owns and is screwing over Coventry, the previous owner was a megalomaniac, wannabe visionary with no understanding of how football works in this country. Or any interest in the club being anything other than a player farm, play thing for his, totally out of her depth, 'niece'.NapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
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So was it good news you got yesterday Airman does it look close ??1
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Yeah. Cause there's nobody worse than Roland the whole world over!Uboat said:I know Charlton fans are pessimistic, but the whole, 'What if the new owners are worse than Roland?' mindset is bewildering.
Look. I know Roland's a complete chunt, but you'd do well to remember the characters that had their name over the door prior to him. They were by no means football Mecca's with the good of the club at the forefront of their thinking.
There is a very good chance that we could again end up with another bunch of fu*wits pulling the strings.
Good and decent people that are willing to take on any kind of football club are definitely not ten a penny.
Taking on one in our situation would suggest they are more than a little unhinged!
I so hope this works out but I also think any pessimism is more than justified3 -
Nothing is guaranteed in life other than death or the payment of taxes and yes we might be unlucky to end up with a Pompey type chancer after chancer scenario which takes the club over a cliff.
After nearly 4 years of the regime, most fans want them gone imo and are happy to take a gamble. Those of a glass half empty disposition can of course exercise as much pessimism as they want but as far as I'm concerned it's a case of nothing ventured nothing gained. I'll worry about the new owners' direction of the club when there is good reason to.
Roland Out!13 -
Agree with a lot of the guys wanting nothing but Roland out and that anything else is better. Roland is not a football man, we have been left to drift and fall away under his ownership and a large amount of fans have felt disengaged with the club in this time. It hasn’t quite felt like Charlton. A new owner, you can assume, will be a football person, they will not be a network. They will not look to alienate and divide fans. I will get fully behind them and so what if they are not billionaires. Charlton will be a lot healthier with a united fan base and the club will start to feel like the one we know and love again. If we don’t see prem football for 10 years? I couldn’t give a monkeys, I want the club I know and love back. The one that is united and has a connection with the management / ownership, where the fans are the most important thing and the history is as important as it gets.17
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Can it?NapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
I really can’t image anybody looking back and saying that any future owners are worse the W@nk3r we have at the moment - I’d put my house on it in fact.5 -
Coventry basically have no training ground, don't own their own stadium, have dropped to L2 and the current owner can't even find someone who wants to buy the club for £7M. I think they have it worse. Coventry might be the next Leyton Orient.ricky_otto said:
Can it?NapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
I really can’t image anybody looking back and saying that any future owners are worse the W@nk3r we have at the moment - I’d put my house on it in fact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38676309/small-attendances-poor-form-ownership-protests---is-coventry-city-a-dying-club2 -
It's gotta be worth the gamble if only to bring this slow death of a reign to an end, thereby allowing the fanbase to reunite.
My only worry with it being the aussies is where the hell do you find corks these days? All my wine is screw top7 -
We were all jumping for joy and laughing at the "its happening" gif when the Spivs/Cockney Mafia left the building and a multi millionaire from Belgium walked in.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
This is the most disturbing post I've ever read on this learned forum. What if it is true? What if we get our longed for takeover then end up with a worse situation than we have now, however unlikely that might seem? Brings a chill to my spine.DiscoCAFC said:Someone sent me this, not saying where it’s come from or who the source is. I refuse to believe anything until I see it but it’s always wise to read what you hear. Anyway, I’ll leave it here:
***You are an absolute idiot if you think that this group are going to come along and bring back the glory days!
I have been told some stuff tonight in absolute confidence and I intend to make sure it stays that way so please out of respect don't even ask.
If this Australian consortium take over you can forget Championship football for a very long time.
As for the Premiership?? ...Not in my lifetime and probably not yours either.***
Look where we are now.
It will take seasons, not months to repair the damage RD has caused and we can only hope any new owner is up to it.0 -
I reckon Tom Rubishaw will have some going cheap having placed a bulk order so he could shove one daily into in Daisy's gob over the last 6 monthsTaxi_Lad said:It's gotta be worth the gamble if only to bring this slow death of a reign to an end, thereby allowing the fanbase to reunite.
My only worry with it being the aussies is where the hell do you find corks these days? All my wine is screw top
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You don’t answer the question, however, of where Duchatelet and Meire would take Charlton if they continue, or for that matter how it would be possible for them to put back together what they have broken. Without that, “worse” is meaningless.NapaAddick said:
Coventry basically have no training ground, don't own their own stadium, have dropped to L2 and the current owner can't even find someone who wants to buy the club for £7M. I think they have it worse. Coventry might be the next Leyton Orient.ricky_otto said:
Can it?NapaAddick said:I hear you, but it can get worse. Example... Coventry.
I really can’t image anybody looking back and saying that any future owners are worse the W@nk3r we have at the moment - I’d put my house on it in fact.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38676309/small-attendances-poor-form-ownership-protests---is-coventry-city-a-dying-club8 -
I could be wrong, but at worst, I think RD would pull out some stops to keep us in L1, because he does understand that to go to L2 would bring our value way down.
People don't like to hear this, but even with the drop to L1, he will sell at a profit. I think he wants to protect that.1 - Sponsored links:
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I think you are wrong on the first point.NapaAddick said:I could be wrong, but at worst, I think RD would pull out some stops to keep us in L1, because he does understand that to go to L2 would bring our value way down.
People don't like to hear this, but even with the drop to L1, he will sell at a profit. I think he wants to protect that.
I'm almost certain you are wrong on the second.16 -
I think you're right, that Napa is wrong.Henry Irving said:
I think you are wrong on the first point.NapaAddick said:I could be wrong, but at worst, I think RD would pull out some stops to keep us in L1, because he does understand that to go to L2 would bring our value way down.
People don't like to hear this, but even with the drop to L1, he will sell at a profit. I think he wants to protect that.
I'm almost certain you are wrong on the second.4 -
You know what they say about two wrongs.Henry Irving said:
I think you are wrong on the first point.NapaAddick said:I could be wrong, but at worst, I think RD would pull out some stops to keep us in L1, because he does understand that to go to L2 would bring our value way down.
People don't like to hear this, but even with the drop to L1, he will sell at a profit. I think he wants to protect that.
I'm almost certain you are wrong on the second.5 -
Written by a chap who only a couple of weeks earlier assured everyone on another forum that the one group not interested in us any more was the Aussies. Enough said.Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
This is the most disturbing post I've ever read on this learned forum. What if it is true? What if we get our longed for takeover then end up with a worse situation than we have now, however unlikely that might seem? Brings a chill to my spine.DiscoCAFC said:Someone sent me this, not saying where it’s come from or who the source is. I refuse to believe anything until I see it but it’s always wise to read what you hear. Anyway, I’ll leave it here:
***You are an absolute idiot if you think that this group are going to come along and bring back the glory days!
I have been told some stuff tonight in absolute confidence and I intend to make sure it stays that way so please out of respect don't even ask.
If this Australian consortium take over you can forget Championship football for a very long time.
As for the Premiership?? ...Not in my lifetime and probably not yours either.***
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Henry, I am willing to put a friendly £100 wager on point two, if you choose. Lemme know. We can settle up with a wire transfer, after the fact.
He purchased us for £20M (see article, below.) All the losses have been added to debt, for which he is earning 3% interest this whole time. Any new owners will have to take over all that debt. He will sell for more than £20M. Mark my words. Also, Lookman's profitable sale will count in this years books, as will Konsa, all of which he will probably pocket on the way out. He has many ways to sell for a profit.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I am pretty confident he will profit.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/belgian-tycoon-roland-duch-telet-completes-20m-charlton-athletic-takeover-9038120.html1 -
Of course it can get worse under the Belgians..
Here we are in the week ROT were formed I take it as in the hope it's the final nail in the coffin for the Belgians.
But if they are still here in febuary we want them to bolster the squad in January.
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It is amazing that a political party has formed just to be against one person. Even Trump can't claim that. Yet.0
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Couldn't agree more - it is amazing.NapaAddick said:It is amazing that a political party has formed just to be against one person. Even Trump can't claim that. Yet.
Congrats to everyone involved!13 -
Lookman’s sale was in 16/17. The upfront fee is already spent offsetting operating losses. Konsa will be in 17/18.NapaAddick said:Henry, I am willing to put a friendly £100 wager on point two, if you choose. Lemme know. We can settle up with a wire transfer, after the fact.
He purchased us for £20M (see article, below.) All the losses have been added to debt, for which he is earning 3% interest this whole time. Any new owners will have to take over all that debt. He will sell for more than £20M. Mark my words. Also, Lookman's profitable sale will count in this years books, as will Konsa, all of which he will probably pocket on the way out. He has many ways to sell for a profit.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/belgian-tycoon-roland-duch-telet-completes-20m-charlton-athletic-takeover-9038120.html
If anyone took over “all the debt” plus what he paid they would be undertaking to pay back his initial outlay twice over, because it is in the books as debt, accruing interest.
The company cannot conceivably pay back “all the debt” outside the PL and RD cannot be sure any new owner will get there.3 -
God knows how you will settle that bet. The final fee he sells for will, no doubt, be undisclosed.NapaAddick said:Henry, I am willing to put a friendly £100 wager on point two, if you choose. Lemme know. We can settle up with a wire transfer, after the fact.
He purchased us for £20M (see article, below.) All the losses have been added to debt, for which he is earning 3% interest this whole time. Any new owners will have to take over all that debt. He will sell for more than £20M. Mark my words. Also, Lookman's profitable sale will count in this years books, as will Konsa, all of which he will probably pocket on the way out. He has many ways to sell for a profit.
Not trying to be argumentative, but I am pretty confident he will profit.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/belgian-tycoon-roland-duch-telet-completes-20m-charlton-athletic-takeover-9038120.html2
