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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • ross1 said:

    When Theresa May started talking to Australia about trade deals after Brexit, I never dreamed we could be involved

    I was just wondering whether Brexit helps us in this instance... I have no idea how it would, but it's be nice if some good news came of Brexit.
  • Not that tall!
  • J BLOCK said:

    Nothing against the Aussies or Mr Muir , but I would love it if someone came in for us with serious wonga . After all these miserable years , surely we deserve a change of fortune .

    He's a billionaire ....
    Or perhaps not. The Aussie version of the rich list suggests he's worth $651mn. That Aus Dollars. In real money probably just about enough to buy him one Harry Kane and pay his wages. He'd then be broke.
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  • cafcfan said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Nothing against the Aussies or Mr Muir , but I would love it if someone came in for us with serious wonga . After all these miserable years , surely we deserve a change of fortune .

    He's a billionaire ....
    Or perhaps not. The Aussie version of the rich list suggests he's worth $651mn. That Aus Dollars. In real money probably just about enough to buy him one Harry Kane and pay his wages. He'd then be broke.
    Any other investors? .
  • cafcfan said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Nothing against the Aussies or Mr Muir , but I would love it if someone came in for us with serious wonga . After all these miserable years , surely we deserve a change of fortune .

    He's a billionaire ....
    Or perhaps not. The Aussie version of the rich list suggests he's worth $651mn. That Aus Dollars. In real money probably just about enough to buy him one Harry Kane and pay his wages. He'd then be broke.
    Or maybe they know he has just bought the club and given 500 million to Karl to spend as he wishes in January. (Yeah right).
  • Sources suggest the stumbling block in last-minute negotiations could be the future role of highly rated Chief Exec Ms Katrien Nightmeire

    Suggestions are urgently needed for her appropriate position in the exciting new era ahead ...
  • Does Muir get a rich list? .what's his age?.
  • se9addick said:

    @Redchaser I agree with all you say.

    All we can do is see how it all pans out, who knows another consortium might show their hand if this one fails to complete a deal.

    One thing is for sure until RD has gone in total, the club & the rift between fans are not going to heal.

    My concerns are from post one of this thread, particularly these bits from the Mail on line .

    AFC, who have their sights on making Charlton the breeding ground for talent from Down Under, have undertaken initial due diligence with plans to turn Karl Robinson's side into 'Australia's Football Club'.

    AFC's stated aim is to return Charlton to the Premier League, though there is a desire to create a natural link between the club and Australian football, making Charlton something of a feeder club for the next generation of Aussie superstars.


    Nothing wrong with Premiership ambitions, but achieving it with ‘promising’ young Aussie lads seems about as likely as getting there with Belgian rejects. I hate to think of Charlton as a feeder club with a stolen identity.

    Just to be clear, I want the present owner out, but surely the main objective must be to restore Charlton's identity.

    Surely work permit issues would stop young Australian players who haven't yet played for the national team coming over en masse?
    It would but its a lot easier for Aussies to get a general Visa to the UK as there is an ancestral visa scheme, whether translates to sports persons I do not know
    These days relatively few people qualify, as a lot of the British ancestry is too far back
  • Sources suggest the stumbling block in last-minute negotiations could be the future role of highly rated Chief Exec Ms Katrien Nightmeire

    Suggestions are urgently needed for her appropriate position in the exciting new era ahead ...

    Based on her performance I can thoroughly recommend a customer-facing role in the catering industry.

    Do you want fries with that?
  • Rizzo said:

    Sources suggest the stumbling block in last-minute negotiations could be the future role of highly rated Chief Exec Ms Katrien Nightmeire

    Suggestions are urgently needed for her appropriate position in the exciting new era ahead ...

    Based on her performance I can thoroughly recommend a customer-facing role in the catering industry.

    Do you want fries with that?
    No way could she get a job in McDonald's. They're pretty effective these days.
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  • How many Aussie born players would be allowed to play in England? Financial Fair Play also means a new owner could only spend a very limited amount on players.
  • I suspect that if it is the Aussies that the 'vehicle for young Oz players' is as much to attract investors and raise the brand nationally as it is a footballing strategy.
  • Crusty54 said:

    How many Aussie born players would be allowed to play in England? Financial Fair Play also means a new owner could only spend a very limited amount on players.

    Is FFP actually still a thing? It doesn't seem to be affecting anyone else.
  • well Maynard-Brewer got a work permit so how did he manage it I wonder
  • Redrobo said:

    Nug said:

    Nug said:

    SDAddick said:

    I've missed out on a whole evening of posts having just spent the entire evening driving back from Devon.

    Was hoping a little more detail had leaked out but seems not.

    Based on the likelihood that it's the Aussies we're talking about just how certain are we that their ownership would be a safe pair of hands ? All the talk of not having enough funds have persisted although I guess that at least must have changed.

    I presume we know their business model and we know that they have ambition but is that enough ?

    I would hate us to jump out of the frying pan straight into the fire.

    Just saying.

    These are my thoughts exactly.

    What exactly is their business model?
    What's the current business model, alienate the fans and sell any young player with an ounce of talent? Amazing how quickly people forget what's gone on for the last 3 years after a half decent start to the season in a shit league. I think it's worth a gamble.
    How can anything be worth a gamble when you don't know the runners and riders/team/contestants ?

    We all know the current owner is toxic, but at this stage, I for one know nothing about a potential new owner and their finances, so how can I possibly take a a gamble today ?

    Give me some facts and I'd agree that on the balance of probability a new owner could be great, but with zero information I cannot.
    Crikey....you know the owner is toxic, fans are leaving in droves, we have the richest owner in our history but one who has no ambition to further Charlton as a competitive football team and you're happy to carry on as we are. I'm still amazed at how quickly people have changed their tune on getting these idiots out. Could new owners be worse? Yes. Could they be better? Yes. Maybe I'm prepared to take the chance because I won't be back till these idiots fuck off.
    Not everyone wants to sit there in black and white scarves, throw toys on the pitch or stay away. Fans have left through their own choice and I was one of them historically before breaking the self imposed boycott in full this term.

    If you look objectively at this season in isolation bar the clown tossery with Novak and the last minute transfer deadline striker fiasco albeit early doors I would say on balance the season has started successfully. Good team, good manager, Charlton people coaching set up, good team spirit, excellent ticket prices and competing at the top of the league. Didn't sell key players in the summer and added to the squad with signings who appear to have been the managers own.

    Even the hugely incompetent CEO has been silenced from making any further gaffes. We are also a going concern with players, football and non football staff and suppliers all getting paid on time...this alone gives an edge when attracting players particularly at this level.

    If things have been so terrible and "toxic" this season where are the protests?

    The atmosphere in North upper was superb on Saturday and probably for the reasons outlined two paragraphs above.


    Many have lost objectivity and balance as can be evidenced by assuming negativity in every single thing the club does these days which has further alienated and patronised those who have a different view and widened the division in our fan base.


    The desire to get the owners out is clouding judgement. If you view our current season in isolation we are a going concern, spending on the training ground with a decent manager who in the main appears to be selecting and prucuring his players with relative autonomy.

    I was vehemently in the get them out ASAP camp at all costs during the Fraeye era and attended the organic first few protests and an early CARD one whilst boycotting ie travelling to protest hanging about on my todd in a pub during the game and returning to barrack outside the west stand after.

    I don't like the owner, rate the executive and will always resent them for the shit they bestowed in the early days and the resultant dwindling and divided fan base. They are in my opinion the worst Charlton ownership in my memory.

    Whilst I am loathe to in anyway defend, justify or argue for them remaining I am trying to be objective and look at where we are today and am sceptical to the point of paranoia that in 2017 each new takeover in football particularly at this level is a gamble with the entire clubs going concern. If we were still in the karel Fraeye era and him and his.band of merry European pub players were leading us to obscurity then I would be very much of the attitude of any takeover is worth that risk as will be evidenced over many of my vitriolic posts against the regime in the past few years.


    However as we stand from today I don't like them but I fear there could be far worse than what we have today and whilst I will try to be objective with new owners IF we getake them just will be very cautious and reserved in judging whether it is an improvement on what we currently have today until the evidence is there as after the last 10 years it would be silly not too.

    Really hope it works out for us.
    I cannot imagine that there can be a worse owner in the world: than one that has no ambition.

    It is for this reason I will celebrate Roland selling to anyone.
    Owen Oyston, SISU ?
  • Rizzo said:

    Sources suggest the stumbling block in last-minute negotiations could be the future role of highly rated Chief Exec Ms Katrien Nightmeire

    Suggestions are urgently needed for her appropriate position in the exciting new era ahead ...

    Based on her performance I can thoroughly recommend a customer-facing role in the catering industry.

    Do you want fries with that?
    "customer facing" that's not really in her skill set is it? The burger kiosk doesn't get to personally invite only a pre-approved list of sympathetic sycophants.
    Her best hope of retention will be at the dry end of a mop in the concourse bogs after games.
    She's spent the last 3.5 years looking like she's got a smell under her nose, if she's lucky they'll let her refill the hand towels, loo rolls and switch off the lights too.

    On the subject of loo roll - we could get some commemorative toilet paper printed up - any suggestions for the bespoke design..?
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