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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Has May addressed what will happen to the NHS when EU staff leave and expat retirees return? Waiting lists and bed shortages are going to get a whole lot worse.

    Has it been announced that that's what is going to happen?

    Very interested in this news. Whack the link up as I'd be very interested in reading the announcement.

    Thanks.
    I think that is supposed to happen when May gets no deal (which is better than a bad deal so she says). The implication of no deal is the UK leaves and then the EU people leave, and the UK people return.
    Otherwise May could have announced that EU citizens could remain by now.
  • United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
  • seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Where fucked?
  • seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
  • seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
  • Did anyone see the member of the audience in Question Time calling for people who had gone to bogus colleges to be re interviewed/tested.

    If they failed the tests he wanted them deported ?

    He was saying immigration had destroyed England and it wasn't England anymore.




    He was a brown Asian chap.

    Love the fact that nobody took him to task on the fact that he was from immigrant stock.

    But of course that would probably be construed as racism.

    An ode to this f**** up society!
    We're all from immigrant stock in this country.

  • bobmunro said:

    seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
    Tbh I'm only voting may/conservative because in my opinion she's the best of a very bad lot. The constant bitching and whining countrywide about brexit is a constant annoyance, if we have another vote and the People vote leave again will that be it, or will it be a constant string of elections until remain is voted In, as I may be mistaken but that's not a democracy, the little Englanders comment the poster hasn't commented on so unclear what he/she means. Some elements of labour I do like renationalising railways, looking after the elderly for example but then there's things I don't agree with free uni fees, defence budget cuts, the references that racial equality is a factor in the employment and education of people. So on that basis I add up the pros and cons and make my decision on that.
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  • bobmunro said:

    seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
    Tbh I'm only voting may/conservative because in my opinion she's the best of a very bad lot. The constant bitching and whining countrywide about brexit is a constant annoyance, if we have another vote and the People vote leave again will that be it, or will it be a constant string of elections until remain is voted In, as I may be mistaken but that's not a democracy, the little Englanders comment the poster hasn't commented on so unclear what he/she means. Some elements of labour I do like renationalising railways, looking after the elderly for example but then there's things I don't agree with free uni fees, defence budget cuts, the references that racial equality is a factor in the employment and education of people. So on that basis I add up the pros and cons and make my decision on that.
    The only party advocating another referendum is the Lib Dems - so that's another tick for Labour.

    Are you really saying - no really saying - that you do not believe there is inequality in the UK on the basis of race?
  • edited June 2017
    bobmunro said:

    bobmunro said:

    seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
    Tbh I'm only voting may/conservative because in my opinion she's the best of a very bad lot. The constant bitching and whining countrywide about brexit is a constant annoyance, if we have another vote and the People vote leave again will that be it, or will it be a constant string of elections until remain is voted In, as I may be mistaken but that's not a democracy, the little Englanders comment the poster hasn't commented on so unclear what he/she means. Some elements of labour I do like renationalising railways, looking after the elderly for example but then there's things I don't agree with free uni fees, defence budget cuts, the references that racial equality is a factor in the employment and education of people. So on that basis I add up the pros and cons and make my decision on that.
    The only party advocating another referendum is the Lib Dems - so that's another tick for Labour.

    Are you really saying - no really saying - that you do not believe there is inequality in the UK on the basis of race?
    yes bob i dont think there is ineqaulity in this country and to mention it is a bit silly, people aren't held back because they are Black/Asian or any other ethnic minority, which is apparently what the Tories have done according to Labour its a statement to get those voters on side.
  • Greenie said:

    bobmunro said:

    seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
    Tbh I'm only voting may/conservative because in my opinion she's the best of a very bad lot. The constant bitching and whining countrywide about brexit is a constant annoyance, if we have another vote and the People vote leave again will that be it, or will it be a constant string of elections until remain is voted In, as I may be mistaken but that's not a democracy, the little Englanders comment the poster hasn't commented on so unclear what he/she means. Some elements of labour I do like renationalising railways, looking after the elderly for example but then there's things I don't agree with free uni fees, defence budget cuts, the references that racial equality is a factor in the employment and education of people. So on that basis I add up the pros and cons and make my decision on that.
    So you think the Tory manifesto offers you and your family a better prospect than the Labour one ?

    If the answer is yes. I would love to know on what basis you make that decision because as far as I can tell the Tories have no plan at all. Certainly not one that they are prepared to share with the electorate.

    People are allowed to have a different voting intention without laying down a ten point plan every time they mention it.
    Well in that case why have a message board whereby various topics are discussed??
    its not discussing though is it, its bludgeoning people with smart comments and asking questions of them, seeing it a bit too much on this forum,theres a few posters in particular not going to really go into names because its an internet forum and i dont feel the need to single people out but i know who they are and all i can think of is i wonder if they would say it to my face - i doubt it.
  • bobmunro said:

    seth plum said:

    United Kingdom
    Sadiq Khan - london mayor
    Jeremy Corbyn - prime minister

    To quote heavy d from arsenal fan tv " were fucked "

    Were fucked before, but OK now. Is that what you mean?
    Them 2 in those positions would be very bad.
    They wouldn't fill be with confidence either - but May is better, do you think?

    Even the tory grandees recognise her as a dim-witted, nasty character with, I have to say, not a single positive trait. That's why they won't allow her to answer any questions that she hasn't prepared for in advance - and even then it's the same old drivel of platitudes, meaningless rhetoric and repetitive slogans.

    The country is well and truly fucked if the current crop of so-called leaders is the best we've got.
    Tbh I'm only voting may/conservative because in my opinion she's the best of a very bad lot. The constant bitching and whining countrywide about brexit is a constant annoyance, if we have another vote and the People vote leave again will that be it, or will it be a constant string of elections until remain is voted In, as I may be mistaken but that's not a democracy, the little Englanders comment the poster hasn't commented on so unclear what he/she means. Some elements of labour I do like renationalising railways, looking after the elderly for example but then there's things I don't agree with free uni fees, defence budget cuts, the references that racial equality is a factor in the employment and education of people. So on that basis I add up the pros and cons and make my decision on that.
    So you think the Tory manifesto offers you and your family a better prospect than the Labour one ?

    If the answer is yes. I would love to know on what basis you make that decision because as far as I can tell the Tories have no plan at all. Certainly not one that they are prepared to share with the electorate.

    Very broadly I think voting for the conservatives is voting for 'as is' bar a few changes like winter fuel, care costs etc. So I think those who generally vote conservative aren't overly bothered about their manifesto.

    Voting labour is largely voting for a huge number of expensive promises which all sound wonderful but I view it as hugely unlikely that the money will be there to pay for it. So then what? If the tax rises don't raise the money they believe will taxes increase more? I suspect so and also at a much lower level.

    It's also the quality of the people, corbyns key people are not fit for the jobs they are likely to have.

    Just my view, I know others will have the polar opposite.
  • Whats so wrong with asking people why the manifesto works for them ? unfortunatley, we're at that point of the election where 'hes a ira sympathiser' isnt going to cut it any more

    *thats a general comment and not directed specificaly at anyone
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  • @palarsehater What defence cuts? Have I missed something?
  • I don't think there would be an announcement saying how people are thinking - hardly talking about a population swap policy!

    I imagine the returning retirees will make a nice little earner for the health insurance companies though...

    ...and the tanning salons.
  • Is it just me or do others whenever they look at this thread, the adverts are nearly always a lib dem ad?!

    In costings there is no defence as such as in reality there aren't many/any. Maybe it's just me but over prior manifestos whatever party there wasn't full costings as such? It seems a new labour thing...... might be wrong here but don't recall them in the past.
  • the Tory line seems to be vote us in based on our record (!) then we'll tell you what we're going to do.
  • Ps, on costings just because the numbers add up on a spreadsheet doesn't make them right.

    I'm going to buy CAFC and we'll be in the premier league in 2-3 seasons. I'm going to do that by selling 27,000 tickets every home game at £200 a pop, I will sell 25,000 programmes a game at £5, 25,000 burgers at 7.50 and 175,000 drinks. We'll sell 400,000 replica shirts a season and get sponsorship to the tune of £20m a season.

    That means I will have the money to build a squad not only capable of storming league 1 and the championship but also a top 10 premier team........ simples.
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Is it just me or do others whenever they look at this thread, the adverts are nearly always a lib dem ad?!

    In costings there is no defence as such as in reality there aren't many/any. Maybe it's just me but over prior manifestos whatever party there wasn't full costings as such? It seems a new labour thing...... might be wrong here but don't recall them in the past.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/mar/17/gavin-barwell-date-arab-girls-twitter

    (you're obviously harbouring a secret LibDem fetish)
  • bobmunro said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    Is it just me or do others whenever they look at this thread, the adverts are nearly always a lib dem ad?!

    In costings there is no defence as such as in reality there aren't many/any. Maybe it's just me but over prior manifestos whatever party there wasn't full costings as such? It seems a new labour thing...... might be wrong here but don't recall them in the past.

    The advert right now is asking 'what is my ideal health weight?'.

    How the hell does google adwords know I'm a fat ba****d?
    bobmunro said:

    Rob7Lee said:

    Is it just me or do others whenever they look at this thread, the adverts are nearly always a lib dem ad?!

    In costings there is no defence as such as in reality there aren't many/any. Maybe it's just me but over prior manifestos whatever party there wasn't full costings as such? It seems a new labour thing...... might be wrong here but don't recall them in the past.

    The advert right now is asking 'what is my ideal health weight?'.

    How the hell does google adwords know I'm a fat ba****d?
    I think there is a fair chance a number of us are going to be fat ba****ds.
  • 'strong and stable'

    ... more like 'bent and bullshit'
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