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The Ashes 2017-18

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  • And we're still shit at football too.

    Yes but £18k a season for an 18 year old county cricketer or £18K a week for an 18 year old PL footballer? The former has a better chance of playing too.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    edited December 2017
    My total experience of playing cricket at school in the eighties consisted of 2 games lessons. In the first we were the batting side and I spent the majority of time sitting waiting to bat. Finally it was my turn and after one ball whizzed past we ran out of time. The following week I was continuing my innings and managed to get bowled immediately! We then spent the rest of the lesson fielding. At no point was I shown how to hold a bat, bowl or catch a ball. We moved onto rugby for the next lesson.

    I probably would have still been crap but a bit more enthusiasm by the teacher might have encouraged one or two of us to want to get into the game.
  • Another big issue is that because of the relative short summer in northern hemisphere, kids are on school holiday most of the cricket season, by the time they come back ,its into football season again.
  • On a lighter note, another great stat from Andrew Samson, hilarious to see Athers on that list with the bowlers!

  • On a lighter note, another great stat from Andrew Samson, hilarious to see Athers on that list with the bowlers!

    So, effectively, with Broad and Anderson on that list, England bat nowadays with only 8 wickets!
  • On a lighter note, another great stat from Andrew Samson, hilarious to see Athers on that list with the bowlers!

    So, effectively, with Broad and Anderson on that list, England bat nowadays with only 8 wickets!
    Broad’s bowling has been as effective as Athers this series!
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Didn't Anderson go a record number of matches before getting a duck?
  • McBobbin said:

    Didn't Anderson go a record number of matches before getting a duck?

    That’s my recall too. Seems to have had a lot of ducks since.

  • Ashes: Australia not better than England - Mark Stoneman - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42401187

    Sorry Mark but 3 sound beatings suggest otherwise.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    The headline is misleading IMO as I totally disagree with it but when you read the quotes within the article he does make some sense ie England have shown they're capable of winning a test match in short spells but Australia have dominated when it mattered and that's frustrating.
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  • Ashes: Australia not better than England - Mark Stoneman - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42401187

    Sorry Mark but 3 sound beatings suggest otherwise.

    Just read the same article and did chuckle, I love his positivity. It’s like me saying there’s not much difference between me and Ryan Gosling. (I hope my wife never reads this, I’ll be if for serious piss taking)
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,842
    edited December 2017
    Re Stoneham........looks like we’ve moved on from headbutting Aussies and pouring beer on each other to mind distorting drugs.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,842

    On a lighter note, another great stat from Andrew Samson, hilarious to see Athers on that list with the bowlers!

    Surprised Athers had that many ducks.

    On Sky last year he was talking about bowlers who hit the groove straight away, naming Curtly Ambrose as a prime example. Needless to say they dug out footage of Ambrose nailing him lbw first ball with one that was basically a 95mph off-break.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,955
    edited December 2017

    Ashes: Australia not better than England - Mark Stoneman - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/42401187

    Sorry Mark but 3 sound beatings suggest otherwise.

    In the context of this series he's wrong, but I'd tip us to beat them at home with the ball swinging and less bounce. Albeit not as comprehensively.

    I've said it before - we're an average side at the moment, the Aussies are slightly better and it was a home series.



  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,633

    The headline is misleading IMO as I totally disagree with it but when you read the quotes within the article he does make some sense ie England have shown they're capable of winning a test match in short spells but Australia have dominated when it mattered and that's frustrating.

    but unfortunately a Test match lasts 5 days, with both sides batting & bowling for around 100-120 overs on average and if you're not on your game during those periods you'll lose.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Riviera said:

    This is being leaked everywhere? Why?

    Some poor selections in there. They wont change the batting order as most on here have suggested is the way forward and we'll be 3 down and the Ashes gone before Christmas.

    I was right.

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Riviera said:

    I am actually looking forward to the series now. Just a short while ago I could see nothing but a thrashing but something has made me more optimistic. I can't put my finger on it, maybe it's because so much has gone wrong in the last year or so. We haven't found anyone to open with Cook, we haven't got 3&5 sorted properly and we've lost our number 1 all-rounder, for now at least. We've lost seam bowler after seam bowler and for all Moin's stats we do not have a Test class spinner in the squad. I just can't see it getting worse and this is an opportunity for many to step-up and make a name for themselves.
    The more I think about Brisbane the more excited I feel. I will be camped out on the sofa for the series which will keep my wife from my snoring!
    23rd November - Bring it on!!!

    And I was wrong.
  • On a lighter note, another great stat from Andrew Samson, hilarious to see Athers on that list with the bowlers!

    Surprised Athers had that many ducks.

    On Sky last year he was talking about bowlers who hit the groove straight away, naming Curtly Ambrose as a prime example. Needless to say they dug out footage of Ambrose nailing him lbw first ball with one that was basically a 95mph off-break.
    Atherton did bag a lot of ducks - but look at the quality of bowlers he faced in his career compared to the crap that most countries put out these days!

    SA: Donald, Pollock, De Villiers

    AUS: McGrath, Gillespie, Lee, Warne, McGill, Reid, Hughes

    NZ: Hadlee

    WI: Ambrose, Walsh, Patterson, Bishop.

    PAK: Akhtar, Akram, Younis, Mushtaq

    SL: Muralitharan

    .....when people look at his average of 39 in Tests they need to see it in that context - the likes of Cook has a much better average but has faced far weaker bowling.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    edited December 2017
    No Overton for this test as expected. Curran or Crane the likely replacement. Curran will make his test debut.



    Starc is out for the Aussies, to be replaced by Jackson Bird. Smith injured his hand in net practice but will play - maybe something for the bowlers to target.
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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,320
    Curran in. Where's Crane ffs? He'll come in at Sydney and make all the selectors look very silly, I reckon
  • What time of bowler is he, is he another medium pacer that will go for 0-100. I know the ashes are gone and there is little point in risking wood but he would have given us something different
  • What time of bowler is he, is he another medium pacer that will go for 0-100. I know the ashes are gone and there is little point in risking wood but he would have given us something different

    Everyone knows I'm a big fan of TC. But I don't think he is the answer.

    He is quicker than Overton but still fairly medium. Gets good movement on the ball but isn't really suited to Aus conditions.
  • Have lost most interest in it tbh - bring on the T20's - we might have a chance there.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Like the idiot I am I will be watching.

    Come on England. Still two tests up for grabs and no Mitchell Starc to face.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    Moeen passes a last minute fitness test to play. Crane was lined up for a debut otherwise.
  • Moeen passes a last minute fitness test to play. Crane was lined up for a debut otherwise.

    Damn.Even the last minute fitness tests dont go our way.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    The Boxing Day Test at the "G" is an event whoever is playing. I'm looking forward to it.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    48 minutes until the first ball or am I way off?