Easy to do it when there is nothing to play for. Its like finally winning a game when you're already relegated.
We all know that Golfie, of course its too little too late and all that but even someone as GHE as you must still enjoy Aussies getting out regardless of the state of the series.
Easy to do it when there is nothing to play for. Its like finally winning a game when you're already relegated.
I was in Sydney in 2003 when England were 4-0 down in the series but managed to win that final test. The atmosphere among the England fans was great and the players were celebrating afterwards like they had won the series (I was in the Members' Pavilion and watched the celebrations outside the dressing rooms). Many times I've watched the final Test at The Oval when the series was already won by one side or another but I was still urging England to win and crowds aren't any lower because the series is over. I think 88,000 at the MCG have proven that.
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Leave it to cook and broad to deliver career lengthening performances now the series is lost
Bit harsh
Possibly, but a bit more from the senior players in the first three games wouldn't have gone amiss. Not saying I'm not thoroughly enjoying today's play!
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Yes but the rookies tend to feed of the senior pros. In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are Cook Broad Ali Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Yes but the rookies tend to feed of the senior pros. In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are Cook Broad Ali Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
Easy to do it when there is nothing to play for. Its like finally winning a game when you're already relegated.
We can't have it both ways - lose 5-0 and we are pathetic but lose say 3-1 and the Aussies stopped trying. They don't. They desperately want a whitewash so we should give our side some credit for outplaying the Aussies over these two days.
Having said that, Starc's absence is an issue for them although I really didn't expect all stheir quickies, given their injury history, to be fir for all five Tests. Just a shame we were 3-0 down when it happened.
we still need 50 odd runs for only 1 wicket to match what the Aussies had at close of play yesterday. I reckon will will be all out for close to parity with their score.
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Yes but the rookies tend to feed of the senior pros. In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are Cook Broad Ali Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
Can see where you're coming from.
TBH I think it's been a poor series and the Aussies have been carried by 3/4 players themselves.
I report into 2 Aussies who love their cricket and both say this is a pretty awful team we're playing. Shame really as I thought Anderson summarised the series so far quite well this evening.
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Yes but the rookies tend to feed of the senior pros. In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are Cook Broad Ali Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
Can see where you're coming from.
TBH I think it's been a poor series and the Aussies have been carried by 3/4 players themselves.
I report into 2 Aussies who love their cricket and both say this is a pretty awful team we're playing. Shame really as I thought Anderson summarised the series so far quite well this evening.
Yes, the Aussie batting lineup is hardly vintage, other than a world class player in Smith and a very good one in Warner, when I think back to some of the previous batting lineups where someone like Mike Hussey had to wait years to get into the team
The rookies have performed as well as expected on this tour it has been the senior pros who have underperformed. Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
Not sure about that.
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
Yes but the rookies tend to feed of the senior pros. In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are Cook Broad Ali Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
Can see where you're coming from.
TBH I think it's been a poor series and the Aussies have been carried by 3/4 players themselves.
I report into 2 Aussies who love their cricket and both say this is a pretty awful team we're playing. Shame really as I thought Anderson summarised the series so far quite well this evening.
Yes, the Aussie batting lineup is hardly vintage, other than a world class player in Smith and a very good one in Warner, when I think back to some of the previous batting lineups where someone like Mike Hussey had to wait years to get into the team
And Stuart Law, who played season after season here for Derbyshire, Essex and Lancs scoring 27,000 first class runs at an average of over 50, batted just the once for Australia in a Test, scoring 54 not out against Sri Lanka.
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Fully expecting to be seven down by the close.
Individual Tests are important.
Stoneman caught and bowled off Lyon for 15.
Cook 37*
Vince 17*
Vince lbw Hazlewood 17
Replays showed he got a faint edge but he didn't review the decision.
92-2
Cook 53*
Root 4*
Delighted that Cook and Broad are playing well because every Ashes test match matters.
192-2 at the close.
Cook 104*
Root 49*
Trail by 135.
Today that all changed with broad and then cook puting on their best performance so far
It's such a shame they couldn't have done it earlier
What are Vince and Stoneman averaging - 25 probably. Not good enough for top 3 batsman.
What are Overton and Ball averaging? Not sure it's anywhere good enough.
Aside from Malan, Bairstow and possibly Anderson I'm not sure anyone has done themselves justice.
In my opinion the three players who have underperformed the most this series are
Cook
Broad
Ali
Had these three performed like they were expected to we would not be three down in the series
Having said that, Starc's absence is an issue for them although I really didn't expect all stheir quickies, given their injury history, to be fir for all five Tests. Just a shame we were 3-0 down when it happened.
I reckon will will be all out for close to parity with their score.
TBH I think it's been a poor series and the Aussies have been carried by 3/4 players themselves.
I report into 2 Aussies who love their cricket and both say this is a pretty awful team we're playing. Shame really as I thought Anderson summarised the series so far quite well this evening.
Pressure on Cook to get a big, big score now and get England to 450,
246-4
Malan gone for 14 but Cook still there.