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England Cricket - Summer of 2018

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    Retiring at season's end .. Paul Collingwood (already mentioned I think), where will Durham be without him ? and Jonathan Trott .. two England stalwarts over the past decade or so .. happy days chaps
  • Retiring at season's end .. Paul Collingwood (already mentioned I think), where will Durham be without him ? and Jonathan Trott .. two England stalwarts over the past decade or so .. happy days chaps

    Plus James Foster who has been a magnificent servant to Essex. Had his batting been a bit stronger he would have been the England keeper for a good few years. His last Test was as long ago as 2002 against Australia - and the only player still turning out in the pro game from that side is Marcus Trescothick who will be 43 on Christmas Day.
  • Perhaps I do Foster a disservice so far as his batting is concerned. He averaged 36.69 in the first class game - we are picking the likes of Jennings who has an average of 33.95.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    Perhaps I do Foster a disservice so far as his batting is concerned. He averaged 36.69 in the first class game - we are picking the likes of Jennings who has an average of 33.95.

    At the time he was up against Jones and Prior, as well as Chris Reed, who would get in the England team now as batsman.

    Fosters wicket keeping was world class, only man to stump Sachin in a test match :-)
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    James Foster is undoubtedly the best wicket keeper of his generation. He would have played far more for England if he hadn't been such a troublemaker in his younger years.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Foster did have another stint as England keeper at the T20 world cup a few years back. Did well without excelling with the bat
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    McBobbin said:

    Foster did have another stint as England keeper at the T20 world cup a few years back. Did well without excelling with the bat

    Pulled off a miracle stumping in that as well.
  • Riviera said:

    James Foster is undoubtedly the best wicket keeper of his generation. He would have played far more for England if he hadn't been such a troublemaker in his younger years.

    That didn't stop Swann being recalled - he didn't play but was brought into the squad in 1999 as a 20 year old but then didn't actually play 'til 2008. Foster was 22 when he played his last Test.
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    Cafc43v3r said:

    Perhaps I do Foster a disservice so far as his batting is concerned. He averaged 36.69 in the first class game - we are picking the likes of Jennings who has an average of 33.95.

    At the time he was up against Jones and Prior, as well as Chris Reed, who would get in the England team now as batsman.

    Fosters wicket keeping was world class, only man to stump Sachin in a test match :-)
    The prevailing wisdom over the last 20 years, starting with Stewart, has been to choose the best batsman/keeper, and train their keeping skills.

    It didn't really work with Jones, while Prior was dropped for his poor keeping skills, but then came back and became a decent enough keeper. Bairstow is another who has worked on his keeping skills after being picked as a keeper
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,900
    Riviera said:

    James Foster is undoubtedly the best wicket keeper of his generation. He would have played far more for England if he hadn't been such a troublemaker in his younger years.

    always heard good things about him even before he played for essex ....not a troublemaker to my knowledge but please clarify if you know better
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348

    Riviera said:

    James Foster is undoubtedly the best wicket keeper of his generation. He would have played far more for England if he hadn't been such a troublemaker in his younger years.

    That didn't stop Swann being recalled - he didn't play but was brought into the squad in 1999 as a 20 year old but then didn't actually play 'til 2008. Foster was 22 when he played his last Test.
    good point .. thing is that ever since WW2 there has been a preference for a 'batsman who can keep' rather than a 'pure wicketkeeper' .. a few (e.g. Knott) excelled at both .. this was discussed in the recent obituary to John Murray, Murray v Parks, the better batsman getting the gig ..
    Whereas Swann was by far THE best spinner in the country when he was called up after a long hiatus
  • Foster should have moved to Kent, the home of England keepers!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764

    Foster should have moved to Kent, the home of England keepers!

    You’re sounding too much like @cantersaddick there!
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    Riviera said:

    James Foster is undoubtedly the best wicket keeper of his generation. He would have played far more for England if he hadn't been such a troublemaker in his younger years.

    That didn't stop Swann being recalled - he didn't play but was brought into the squad in 1999 as a 20 year old but then didn't actually play 'til 2008. Foster was 22 when he played his last Test.
    Swann was just a petulant youth (and still is!), Foster upset a lot of important people plus there weren't many alternatives in the off-spinning department and as we know, these days wicket keeping is no longer a specialist position sadly.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Strauss is stepping down as Director of cricket, with Andy Flower taking over in the interim. Seems this is primarily to do with Strauss' wife's cancer, which I hope she makes a full recovery from.
  • On a lighter note, while Graeme Swann is in the current series of Strictly, Ryan Sidebottom will in the next series of Dancing on Ice!

  • Talking of left armers, Reece Topley has left Hampshire.

    A shame that his career has been wrecked by injuries
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    Talking of left armers, Reece Topley has left Hampshire.

    A shame that his career has been wrecked by injuries

    Wow, to join another county? Presumably not.
    Feel for the guy - was only watching a replay from 2 years ago of ODI involving him a couple of nights ago.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Weird detail - his last ever ball faced for Hampshire resulted in his only ever six in pro cricket
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    Nick Compton has retired from cricket
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  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    Nick Compton has retired from cricket

    Got a bad deal from England I reckon.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    @Addick Addict Bout time you opened an England cricket 2018/19 thread as we start our first match tomorrow.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Who will be the next England Director of Cricket, now that Andrew Strauss has stepped aside and Andy Flower's tenure will run only until the end of the year?

    I would like to see one of Michael Vaughan, Nasser Hussain, Paul Collingwood or Alistair Cook.

    In reality, it's probably too soon for Cook, Collingwood might be seen more as a coach than a director and Hussain's remuneration (he'd have to give up Sky commentary) would probably be too much). So maybe Vaughan will get the gig, in time to win the World Cup in England and to extend England's home Ashes winning run dating back to the season he started it in 2005.

    Should Vaughan be the next England Director of Cricket? And, if not, then who?
  • Chizz said:

    Who will be the next England Director of Cricket, now that Andrew Strauss has stepped aside and Andy Flower's tenure will run only until the end of the year?

    I would like to see one of Michael Vaughan, Nasser Hussain, Paul Collingwood or Alistair Cook.

    In reality, it's probably too soon for Cook, Collingwood might be seen more as a coach than a director and Hussain's remuneration (he'd have to give up Sky commentary) would probably be too much). So maybe Vaughan will get the gig, in time to win the World Cup in England and to extend England's home Ashes winning run dating back to the season he started it in 2005.

    Should Vaughan be the next England Director of Cricket? And, if not, then who?

    Kevin Pietersen.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    Pietersen would be a better choice than Vaughan, who would be the worst possible choice
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Leuth said:

    Pietersen would be a better choice than Vaughan, who would be the worst possible choice

    Would you like to explain your reason for thinking that? He seems very well qualified for the role.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    Riviera said:

    @Addick Addict Bout time you opened an England cricket 2018/19 thread as we start our first match tomorrow.

    Done
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    I've been saying for years that Nasser should be involved in the England set-up. Maybe he's been approached and doesn't fancy it. He has a nice job but I'd like to think he has the balls to come out of the comfort zone of the commentary box. Other than him I'd like to see Atherton given a crack.
  • Chizz said:

    Who will be the next England Director of Cricket, now that Andrew Strauss has stepped aside and Andy Flower's tenure will run only until the end of the year?

    I would like to see one of Michael Vaughan, Nasser Hussain, Paul Collingwood or Alistair Cook.

    In reality, it's probably too soon for Cook, Collingwood might be seen more as a coach than a director and Hussain's remuneration (he'd have to give up Sky commentary) would probably be too much). So maybe Vaughan will get the gig, in time to win the World Cup in England and to extend England's home Ashes winning run dating back to the season he started it in 2005.

    Should Vaughan be the next England Director of Cricket? And, if not, then who?

    Alec Stewart
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Chizz said:

    Who will be the next England Director of Cricket, now that Andrew Strauss has stepped aside and Andy Flower's tenure will run only until the end of the year?

    I would like to see one of Michael Vaughan, Nasser Hussain, Paul Collingwood or Alistair Cook.

    In reality, it's probably too soon for Cook, Collingwood might be seen more as a coach than a director and Hussain's remuneration (he'd have to give up Sky commentary) would probably be too much). So maybe Vaughan will get the gig, in time to win the World Cup in England and to extend England's home Ashes winning run dating back to the season he started it in 2005.

    Should Vaughan be the next England Director of Cricket? And, if not, then who?

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