2018 FIFA World Cup Thread

Dazzler21 · July 2018

sam3110 said:

randy andy said:
Have FIFA ordered the refs not to issue reds in anything other than the most extreme circumstance? No red for a headbutt in our game, no red in the SWE v SWI game, no red for Ronaldo. There's been plenty of other incidents that could have seen red, and some have even been referred to VAR and then ignored. Certainly seems like FIFA don't want red cards to "mar" matches.
But there was a red in the Sweden game at the end, and the Ronaldo incident was barely a foul, let alone a red.

The only one they have got wrong was last night, they should have let the referee look at it for himself

THEY DIDN'T STOP HIM.

The referee makes the final decision as to whether he will watch a replay.

"If the VAR believes there has been a potential clear error, he or she will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either (a) change the call on the advice of the VAR or (b) conduct an on-field review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline, called the referee review area, to review the video with the help of the review assistant or (c) decide that he/she is confident in the original call and not conduct an OFR".

sam3110 · July 2018

Well then he should have gone and looked, instead of taking their word for it on a yellow. Either way it was the wrong decision

paulie8290 · July 2018

Dazzler21 said:

sam3110 said:

randy andy said:
Have FIFA ordered the refs not to issue reds in anything other than the most extreme circumstance? No red for a headbutt in our game, no red in the SWE v SWI game, no red for Ronaldo. There's been plenty of other incidents that could have seen red, and some have even been referred to VAR and then ignored. Certainly seems like FIFA don't want red cards to "mar" matches.
But there was a red in the Sweden game at the end, and the Ronaldo incident was barely a foul, let alone a red.

The only one they have got wrong was last night, they should have let the referee look at it for himself
THEY DIDN'T STOP HIM.

The referee makes the final decision as to whether he will watch a replay.

"If the VAR believes there has been a potential clear error, he or she will contact the referee with that judgment. The referee can then either (a) change the call on the advice of the VAR or (b) conduct an on-field review (OFR) by going to a designated spot on the sideline, called the referee review area, to review the video with the help of the review assistant or (c) decide that he/she is confident in the original call and not conduct an OFR".

Exactly so they told him a yellow was fine.

The ref did not see the incident as he was dealing with something else.

VAR saw the replay so saw it clearly.

They should have said you need to look at the replay yourself.

Dazzler21 · July 2018

No they said they felt it was a yellow, as he didn't see it he should have opted to review it.

The mistake is his own and not VAR's.

paulie8290 · July 2018

Dazzler21 said:
No they said they felt it was a yellow, as he didn't see it he should have opted to review it.

The mistake is his own and not VAR's.

So despite having replays they were wrong, how is it not there fault.

Ref gives a yellow for something he hasnt seen clearly.

VAR with replays say we think its a yellow, so ref obviously sticks with his 1st choice, because VAR with replays have told him they agree.

If they had said we think its a red he would have looked, but no point in him wasting time in his opinion and looking when VAR have seen replays and said they think its a yellow

randy andy · July 2018

VAR should never have suggested anything other than review it. They aren't there to give bookings, as the system currently stands all they can do is say if it's worth a review or not.

Manicmania · July 2018

Yet another example where a live link (even a delayed one) between ref and VAR for audiences to hear could have cleared this confusion up in seconds.

johnny73 · July 2018

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

johnny73 said:
Sweden will be tough. I'd love to see a Russia vs England semi final. That would be interesting.
No way, i'd rather have Croatia.

If we get Russia then we'd have the crowd, FIFA and probably the match officials all against us. And we'd likely get no VAR decisions either.

1, The victory would be much sweeter.
2, We would have plenty of excuses if we lost.

ForeverAddickted · July 2018

Manicmania said:
Yet another example where a live link (even a delayed one) between ref and VAR for audiences to hear could have cleared this confusion up in seconds.

Would we have heard the conversation between VAR and Referee over the shouting from the Colombians?

DRAddick · July 2018

Dazzler21 said:
No they said they felt it was a yellow, as he didn't see it he should have opted to review it.

The mistake is his own and not VAR's.

The ref made his decision within the VAR guidelines, therefore VAR is also at fault. VAR is a system, not just some cameras. The desperation to exonerate Var from having any imperfections is getting a bit ridiculous.

stackitsteve · July 2018

randy andy said:
VAR should never have suggested anything other than review it. They aren't there to give bookings, as the system currently stands all they can do is say if it's worth a review or not.

Exactly this. VAR is only there to advise the ref if he has missed something, VAR isn't supposed to make any decisions on the refs behalf

Callumcafc · July 2018

Callumcafc · July 2018

Cavani will not be fit to face France.

Manicmania · July 2018

What a great pic that is Callum, gave me a bit of a goosebumps moment when I first saw that.

soapboxsam · July 2018

Weegie Addick said:
Anyone realised yet that we won tonight on ITV?

The result was 3-0 when I watched it again on BBC and the Colombian got sent off for a head butt.

Alwaysneil · July 2018

Always liked them Walkers crisps they advertise on the bbc.

stackitsteve · July 2018

Neymar has spent a total of 14 minutes on the floor so far this World Cup!

johnnybev1987 · July 2018

stackitsteve said:
Neymar has spent a total of 14 minutes on the floor so far this World Cup!

My mate said this yesterday, what an absolute joke. Will never be considered greatest with theatrics like that. Imagine if messi did it, embarrassing! Ronaldo used to be just as bad, toned it down alot but still has his moments.