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2018 FIFA World Cup Thread

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  • Laddick01 said:

    Dave2l said:

    why on earth would we want a belgium win?

    we need to win the group in order to hopefully avoid Brazil in a potential QF.

    I want england to go as far as we can! Then play the big countries inevitably late on.

    The later on, the better.

    I think if we come second Brazil are on the other side of the draw providing they win their group

    Germany could also be on the other side if Mexico win all 3, so second would be very favourable
    Another reason 2nd could be favourable is Columbia and Poland not looking likely to be group winners so likely to be Senegal or Japan in the 2nd round which is much more winnable.
  • What baffles me is the fact that Tunisia obviously know to use the ball... Why not play like this from the off against us and Belgium and they might take the lead

    Defending a 0-0 and hoping for the best obviously dont work
  • Good game this

    I’ve no idea whether 1st or 2nd in this group will be better, as it’s not obvious in which order most of the other groups will finish in
  • I know they've got Vertonghen and Alderweireld yet not over impressed with the Belgian defending!!
  • Would be interesting to know historically how many teams have lost their first group game and still gone on to win their group - can't be many.
  • Tunisia causing Belgium far more problems than they did us
  • Would be interesting to know historically how many teams have lost their first group game and still gone on to win their group - can't be many.

    Am looking into it because I'm a geek and these things fascinate me yet already

    Spain lost 1-0 to Switzerland in 2010 yet won their Group
  • Tunisia seem to be getting a lot more chances than they did against us.
  • edited June 2018
    BR3red said:

    He was a keeper and Maradona about 4'3", if he'd have done his job and jumped properly then Maradona would'nt got anywhere near it anyway.
    Really ?

    Did you watch it live?

    Look at the picture, Shilts was going to punch the ball, fatty punched it about 3 feet in front of him! The ball was 2 feet above fattys head.

    Very harsh on Shilton or naive....

    Great ( unbelievable in spells) player that he was and 2nd goal proved that, Maradona blatenly cheated - end of. Nothing to do with Peter "doing his job" properly.

    Must be a WUM comment imo or just stated this for no reason ?

    Forget Var for a second.

    The modern keepers play more as sweepers in most cases now and would've been off their line much quicker than Shilton was.
    From memory I always thought Ray Clemence was quicker off his line than shilton.
  • Would be interesting to know historically how many teams have lost their first group game and still gone on to win their group - can't be many.

    Am looking into it because I'm a geek and these things fascinate me yet already

    Spain lost 1-0 to Switzerland in 2010 yet won their Group
    Mexico also lost their first game in 1994 (1-0 to Norway)
    West Germany did in it in 1982 (2-1 to Algeria) which'll be a good sign for them

    Impressively two of the sides (Spain and West Germany) have gone on to reach the Final that year
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  • 1StevieG said:

    Tunisia seem to be getting a lot more chances than they did against us.

    Laddick01 said:

    Tunisia causing Belgium far more problems than they did us

    The fact that Tunisia will be pretty much out if they lose is probably helping
  • Probably typical English pessimism but I can’t see us beating Belgium, so we definitely want Belgium to win today or we go into Thursday’s game needing something.
  • Can't see the Germans topping their group even if they do win both their last two games (I fancy a draw with Sweden tonight which proper puts them in the dog poo).

    Mexico should be getting four points from Sweden and South Korea and end up on seven.
  • edited June 2018
    JaShea99 said:

    Probably typical English pessimism but I can’t see us beating Belgium, so we definitely want Belgium to win today or we go into Thursday’s game needing something.

    You forgetting that we have a game against Panama tomorrow as well? Win that and we're pretty much guaranteed to go through (unless Tunisia win this and their game against Panama and all the top teams end up on six points).
  • edited June 2018

    Would be interesting to know historically how many teams have lost their first group game and still gone on to win their group - can't be many.

    Am looking into it because I'm a geek and these things fascinate me yet already

    Spain lost 1-0 to Switzerland in 2010 yet won their Group
    it's happened 3 times ever as far as I can tell (also a geek lol) spain 2010 mexico 1994 germany 1982

    edit what that tells us is it's highly unlikely to happen twice in one tournament so Poland/Columbia and Germany ain't both going to do it... are they!?
  • edited June 2018
    Four now for Lukaku to make him joint top scorer with Ronaldo. Last three golden boot winners have only got five or six so this one should see the highest scorer since the other Ronaldo in 2002.
  • Four now for Lukaku to make him joint top scorer with Ronaldo. Last three golden boot winners have only got five so this one should see the highest scorer since the other Ronaldo in 2002.

    Just looked Lukaku now 15/8 to be top scorer, Ronaldo gone out to 5/2
  • Surprising seeing that Belgium next play England whereas Portugal face Iran...
  • edited June 2018

    Four now for Lukaku to make him joint top scorer with Ronaldo. Last three golden boot winners have only got five so this one should see the highest scorer since the other Ronaldo in 2002.

    feeling pretty good about my bet on Lukaku to be golden boot winner before the tourney - wouldn't put it past him to score again in the second half here and fancy Belgium to go further into the tourney than Portugal as well.

    edit wonder if he will become their penalty taker for the rest of the tournament now that he is in with a shout as well although Hazard is pretty greedy so may do the old pulling rank as the captain.
  • Surprising seeing that Belgium next play England whereas Portugal face Iran...

    Portugal are a more negative side than Belgium though, Belgium have much better players to set up chances too
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  • Belgium remind me of Martinez' Everton, especially during the first season he was there, very entertaining going forward, but not good at defending. As a neutral I enjoyed this first half. One of the best games I've watched
    so far. Yesterday's Brazil totally pale in comparison to Belgium.
  • Still shouldn't threaten Just Fontaine's 13 in 1958!
  • JaShea99 said:

    Probably typical English pessimism but I can’t see us beating Belgium, so we definitely want Belgium to win today or we go into Thursday’s game needing something.

    You forgetting that we have a game against Panama tomorrow as well? Win that and we're pretty much guaranteed to go through (unless Tunisia win this and their game against Panama and all the top teams end up on six points).
    No I haven’t forgotten that. I don’t want to go into Belgium ‘pretty much’ through, I want to go into Belgium through.
  • England will have to win all three games to top the group now no way we are overturning that goal difference. I'm fine with that though.
  • Took a thrown in two foot onto the pitch right in front of Lino.
  • England will have to win all three games to top the group now no way we are overturning that goal difference. I'm fine with that though.

    Belgium +6
    England +1

    Could be a blessing in disguise if Brazil win Group E and Germany fail to win Group F.
  • JaShea99 said:

    JaShea99 said:

    Probably typical English pessimism but I can’t see us beating Belgium, so we definitely want Belgium to win today or we go into Thursday’s game needing something.

    You forgetting that we have a game against Panama tomorrow as well? Win that and we're pretty much guaranteed to go through (unless Tunisia win this and their game against Panama and all the top teams end up on six points).
    No I haven’t forgotten that. I don’t want to go into Belgium ‘pretty much’ through, I want to go into Belgium through.
    Even a draw for Belgium would've meant if we won against Panama, we were through. Only result that could've stopped that being the case tomorrow was a Tunisia win today.
  • England will have to win all three games to top the group now no way we are overturning that goal difference. I'm fine with that though.

    Belgium +6
    England +1

    Could be a blessing in disguise if Brazil win Group E and Germany fail to win Group F.
    add to that Tunisia's goal difference is -4 at the moment and Panama's is -3 - certainly doesn't hurt us for qualification chances.
  • Lukaku off Fellani on why make a defensive sub
  • Lukaku off Fellani on why make a defensive sub

    Don't need to really try from here, do they? Best to get their goal threat off and rested for the more important games ahead.

    Was always going to be the case if they went three goals ahead.
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