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The Apprentice 2018

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  • AmandaHoldensCat
    AmandaHoldensCat Posts: 126
    I think it’s down to the business plans that have already been looked at and this is just an entertainment show in the background before Lord Sugar invests in the one he wants. Maybe Tom has a good one and that’s why he is still there .....for the moment
  • daveaddick
    daveaddick Posts: 1,926
    Agree with the above comment plus Tom does conduct himself well in the boardroom, always calm and logical. Thought this weeks episode was good entertainment and Daniel was not only good value but somehow with no knowledge he actually "got" the artwork which is why he was successful, I think he may be a frontrunner. Jasmine came over as being a lot nicer on "You're Fired" than she did during the process but her business plan sounded somewhat dull. The process is now throwing up the potential winners and agree that Jackie is a strong candidate.
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    killerandflash said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    Athletico Charlton said:

    Would have sacked the fella, he isn’t up to it and has been consistently poor to average at best.

    He got away with it because he's one of only two blokes left. Had to keep him for a bit of balance.

    What a beautiful, sunny city it was filmed in!
    I was surprised when I visited Glasgow, parts are surprisingly middle class as proven by the people buying art tonight!
    Just a heads up for anyone thinking of visiting Scotland.

    This episode featured the offices of itison which is a website offering some great deals on accommodation, dining and entertainment in Glasgow, Edinburgh and other parts of Scotland and Northern England.

    For example, I have just booked an overnight stay at Carnoustie, Golf and Spa Hotel. Superior room with golf course view £59 for b&b.

    Just Google itison, sign up and they send you a daily email with all their regionalised offers.
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    That was a shocker. He has got rid of the best candidate.

    Bonus for her is she is now free to be the wicked witch at panto!!
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    DOC64 said:

    That was a shocker. He has got rid of the best candidate.

    Bonus for her is she is now free to be the wicked witch at panto!!

    I felt sorry for Tom, he knew he was for the chop soon as they gave the final figures which was a bit of a let down and pretty unfair I thought given they lost because people changed their minds which wasn't mentioned beforehand

    I'm liking Daniel more and more since his tour de force performance in the art task last week. Absolutely Baggs-esque
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    Agree regarding Tom, but not using Jackie as one of the presenters was almost suicidal.

    Didn't help being told to sell the tooth whitening product by putting charcoal in his gob. Fantastic tv.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    DOC64 said:

    Agree regarding Tom, but not using Jackie as one of the presenters was almost suicidal.

    Didn't help being told to sell the tooth whitening product by putting charcoal in his gob. Fantastic tv.

    Yes, no idea why he was presenting, when choosing the right products and doing the behind the scenes job is just as important.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Carter said:

    DOC64 said:

    That was a shocker. He has got rid of the best candidate.

    Bonus for her is she is now free to be the wicked witch at panto!!

    I felt sorry for Tom, he knew he was for the chop soon as they gave the final figures which was a bit of a let down and pretty unfair I thought given they lost because people changed their minds which wasn't mentioned beforehand

    I'm liking Daniel more and more since his tour de force performance in the art task last week. Absolutely Baggs-esque
    It was tough on him, but then most people were staggered he hadn't been fired the last 2 weeks anyway!
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    The firing and the task are increasingly becoming unrelated halves of the same show. Performance on the actual task seems to have minimal bearing on who gets fired.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.
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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,247
    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Carter said:

    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
    cant find the info but i know the plumbing company from 2 years ago he is nothing to do with anymore.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    Jackie had to go, far too manipulative and untrustworthy.
  • croydonaddick
    croydonaddick Posts: 643
    He still tweets often for the skin care company, sweet company from last year, cosmetic surgery company and inventor Tom, so presumably is still involved in those. His investment is to help start a business and see it thrive. It may be that once a company is becoming successful then the original candidate may decide to buy Lord Sugar out to gain full control, which I think is what happened with the plumbing guy, although could be wrong
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Tom was useless and pathetic from start to finish, can't believe he lasted that long. He was such a wet.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,275
    Carter said:

    DOC64 said:

    That was a shocker. He has got rid of the best candidate.

    Bonus for her is she is now free to be the wicked witch at panto!!

    I felt sorry for Tom, he knew he was for the chop soon as they gave the final figures which was a bit of a let down and pretty unfair I thought given they lost because people changed their minds which wasn't mentioned beforehand

    I'm liking Daniel more and more since his tour de force performance in the art task last week. Absolutely Baggs-esque
    Tom came across as a very decent bloke which is accentuated even more this year given how unpleasant most of them appear to be. Trouble is, he was PM three times and consistently made bad decisions leading to 3 defeats.

    Can’t help thinking that Sugar set him up to fail this week though as in Kodeja and the blonde girl he probably had the 2 weakest candidates left and Jackie is not made for tv sales.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,856
    Jackie usually had good ideas (apart from boob tube for stewardess uniform) and could actually talk/pitch like a normal person.
    Feel she was hung out to dry on this task and did nothing wrong.

    Thought only her, Sian or Daniel had anything about them that would make me want to invest.

    Believe it is only the plumber he is not still involved with.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Carter said:

    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
    The problem is that LS's business empire isn't very exciting now, so there are few actual jobs available.

    The sort of tycoons who could provide a decent job (say Mike Ashley, James Dyson) are far too busy to appear on a TV show
  • DOC64
    DOC64 Posts: 333
    stonemuse said:

    Jackie had to go, far too manipulative and untrustworthy.

    Great legs though
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    killerandflash said:

    Carter said:

    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
    The problem is that LS's business empire isn't very exciting now, so there are few actual jobs available.

    The sort of tycoons who could provide a decent job (say Mike Ashley, James Dyson) are far too busy to appear on a TV show
    And most UK Apprentice candidates would probably prefer to stay in the UK, rather than be sent to Singapore to work.
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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    I'm Lord Sugar and I'm looking for my next business partner in the Apprentice 2019.

    Candidates should be:

    Gullible enough not spot when they are being manipulated to make TV fiction drama.
    Prepared to give up at least a year of their working life (maybe more if and Election is called).
    Able to understand that we film the final with 2 winners, so you won't know if you have won until we show it.
    Not expect much contact with Shoogs after winning.
    Happy to fade into obscurity like a Big Brother house-mate after the initial hoo har.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Valiantphil said:

    I'm Lord Sugar and I'm looking for my next business partner in the Apprentice 2019.

    Candidates should be:

    Gullible enough not spot when they are being manipulated to make TV fiction drama.
    Prepared to give up at least a year of their working life (maybe more if and Election is called).
    Able to understand that we film the final with 2 winners, so you won't know if you have won until we show it.
    Not expect much contact with Shoogs after winning.
    Happy to fade into obscurity like a Big Brother house-mate after the initial hoo har.

    It's a TV entertainment show.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    did prefer it when a job was on offer and also the minders used to get a bit more involved in slaughtering the candidates, i think last few weeks the team winning has been v lucky, last night the better team lost.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Chizz said:

    killerandflash said:

    Carter said:

    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
    The problem is that LS's business empire isn't very exciting now, so there are few actual jobs available.

    The sort of tycoons who could provide a decent job (say Mike Ashley, James Dyson) are far too busy to appear on a TV show
    And most UK Apprentice candidates would probably prefer to stay in the UK, rather than be sent to Singapore to work.
    He currently employs around 3500 in the UK. Not that Apprentice winners would be needed for his type of design and engineering activities...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Valiantphil said:

    I'm Lord Sugar and I'm looking for my next business partner in the Apprentice 2019.

    Candidates should be:

    Gullible enough not spot when they are being manipulated to make TV fiction drama.
    Prepared to give up at least a year of their working life (maybe more if and Election is called).
    Able to understand that we film the final with 2 winners, so you won't know if you have won until we show it.
    Not expect much contact with Shoogs after winning.
    Happy to fade into obscurity like a Big Brother house-mate after the initial hoo har.

    On the other hand

    Most people enjoy the process, it's probably fun in the house, and some of the tasks can be enjoyable
    You do learn things about yourself which may be useful
    It's good if you want a career in reality TV, or want to make a quick buck from the fame
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,856
    palarsehater said:

    did prefer it when a job was on offer and also the minders used to get a bit more involved in slaughtering the candidates, i think last few weeks the team winning has been v lucky, last night the better team lost.

    How can you say the better team lost last night ?

    Daniel and bad make up woman were so much better on screen than wooden Tom and useless Khadija
  • Phil
    Phil Posts: 612
    The point re how you perform on tasks is very appropriate. A number of them have a mare but escape any great deal of scrutiny because they end up winning.
    This series has by and large been one where you survive if your team is marginally less shit than the other!
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    MrOneLung said:

    palarsehater said:

    did prefer it when a job was on offer and also the minders used to get a bit more involved in slaughtering the candidates, i think last few weeks the team winning has been v lucky, last night the better team lost.

    How can you say the better team lost last night ?

    Daniel and bad make up woman were so much better on screen than wooden Tom and useless Khadija
    they also missed a advert by forgetting the prop.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    Phil said:

    The point re how you perform on tasks is very appropriate. A number of them have a mare but escape any great deal of scrutiny because they end up winning.
    This series has by and large been one where you survive if your team is marginally less shit than the other!

    With the availability of "lost/change of mind sales" on the QVC task, and any tasks where Shoogs has "lined up a Corporate Client", then the scriptwriters just decide who wins by "adjusting" the sales.
    Shoogs has already been told who to move around in the teams, so they can arrange to ditch the person they want to before anyone has even baked a cake.

    It may be entertainment - but it is fiction, just like the boardroom, the secretary, and the caff.
    What is deffo real, are the NDA's that everybody signs.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    killerandflash said:

    Chizz said:

    killerandflash said:

    Carter said:

    palarsehater said:

    Jackie played a game and imo was sneaky I also appreciate sugar backing smaller business the only thing I don’t like it with these small firms he usually sells off his shares within a year.

    Daniel to win for me now.

    I didn't know that about him selling his stake

    I think he or the producers need to ditch the investment bit and go back to giving one of them a job. It skews the whole thing too much and like you say, he ends up sacking people not because of how they performed on a task or how culpable for a loss they were.

    Besides that I thought dragons den was about investment, if you had such a good idea and were after investment and acumen just go down that route surely
    The problem is that LS's business empire isn't very exciting now, so there are few actual jobs available.

    The sort of tycoons who could provide a decent job (say Mike Ashley, James Dyson) are far too busy to appear on a TV show
    And most UK Apprentice candidates would probably prefer to stay in the UK, rather than be sent to Singapore to work.
    He currently employs around 3500 in the UK. Not that Apprentice winners would be needed for his type of design and engineering activities...
    That's interesting, because Dyson doesn't manufacture any of its products in the UK any more.

    I totally accept your point about other entrepreneurs being able to offer jobs and not just Lord Sugar. But I think Dyson is such a hypocrite that a show featuring him would rightly be castigated.

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