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Sunderland Til I Die - Netflix
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They were completely shot when it came to playing us . I don’t think we realised it at the time.Valleysarr said:
Too much attention on checkatrade. They didn’t expect to beat us in play off finalO-Randy-Hunt said:Just watched ep 5. Cant believe how gutted they were to lose the checkatrade. God knows how they are going to feel in episode 6 with 6 seconds to go. I feel sorry for them already.
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Didn't think it was anywhere near as good as season 1. There was too much focus on the owner and CEO. I can only think that was the narrative they wanted to pedal??? If so, for me it backfired as they both came out of it looking like a couple of clueless chancers who had no real financial clout. This series just went some way to confirming the media stories that have surfaced about them. So many of the scenes were clearly staged and scripted.
For a club that size they (the owners/management) were a complete embarrassment. And for that, I feel for their fans, but not for the pain of losing at Wembley - that's just football and all clubs (unless plastic ones at the very very top) experience that.
I wanted to see more insight from the players and staff - maybe they all (sensibly) refused to participate in much detail?
Anyway, up the BFG you legend.0 -
Really wanted to see Methven's face when the winner went in so was disappointing to see all the focus was on the fans (whom I felt sorry for).
Donald seems a nice guy, heart in the right place but out of his depth.
Enjoyed it but not as much as the first.4 -
In terms of the editing, Christmas trees in November seemed a bit weird. Mind you, I knew somebody (a mate's girlfriend) who put hers up in August. I went round to his place one August or September as we were going on to a car show. I looked around their living room with Christmas tree with wrapped presents under it, decorations and the Orville Christmas show on the TV. I was speechless. He said it all really " She likes Christmas".3
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I quite like Stewart Donaldson. I think we would take someone like him at the helm of Charlton right now, eh?0
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He came off as a nice guy, but was ridiculously clueless about the business of football. The deadline day scene of buying Grigg is something he must hate to have to watch back now.meldrew66 said:I quite like Stewart Donaldson. I think we would take someone like him at the helm of Charlton right now, eh?1 -
I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window.
And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.0 -
Do you mind.BrentfordAddick said:I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window.
And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.
I'm just about to settle down and watch the last episode with the family.
We had enormous fun watching the fake Grand National and now you throw this out there.
I'm starting to think my whole life is a fraud!0 -
Just watched all of it in one go, great ending!1
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Methven
"Sunderland are one of the worst teams I've supported."
That is all.10 - Sponsored links:
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I don't mind it, but it does go on a bit.BrentfordAddick said:I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window.
And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.2 -
Also Methvencarly burn said:Methven
"Sunderland are one of the worst team I've supported."
That is all.
”people in London just think the northeast is full of poor, stupid people that voted for Brexit...” then he kinda trails off!4 -
It’s a badly made tv doc. Don’t read too much into it. The coverage of Wembley was poor, but that’s because it didn’t go the way the programme makers wanted. Watch the last ep as it’s a bit of fun for us Charlton fans, but generally it’s not all that !0
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Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.1
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I think they wanted to highlight just how desperate they are to win a trophy, they make so many references to the 1973 FA Cup winning team.Croydon said:Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.
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As others have said, the nonsensical focus on the Checkatrade Trophy was another key factor in killing their season.
When they played us at Wembley you could see that after 30 mins they were out on their feet - they had no edge whatsoever to their game and were very heavy legged.
Why play another six games you don't need to play to win a tinpot trophy? Sure, you might make 1 million quid, but you'd make a lot more if you get automatic promotion!4 -
10 minutes in... Methven is David Brent reincarnated0
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Jesus, I must be one of the only ones who couldn't give a flying about Sunderland fans emotions or feelings.
Honestly spared no thought for them on the day, the days after or even watching Netflix doc.
Wouldn't wish any harm on them obviously but we've had enough dissapointment ourselves to let another teams feelings get in my head
Is what it is.9 -
My thoughts are the train was coming off the tracks for Sunderland at that stage, and the club were less happy to have cameras dotted around everywhere capturing all the amateur moments.Croydon said:Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.Around the time of the checkatrade final, I think Sunderland were only a couple of points of automatic promotion with games in hand, they then continued with drawing/losing a bunch of games. Mood had clearly changed in the club.The fact that 5 episodes focused mostly on Donald and Methven, yet after the play off final, you hardly got any decent footage and interview time with them. Methven in particular, I imagine, threw his toys out the pram and was not in a professional capacity to be seen on camera (that’s just my opinion after seeing how he reacted with on the spot pressure throughout the series, namely the public swearing of the comms manager at half time).3 -
Don’t think the second series was anywhere near as good as the first. It all felt a bit rushed.6
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I felt some sympathy for the ones that were shown as they came across very genuine and decent. Didn't really have anything to do with them playing us in the final, could've been against anyone and I'd have felt the same.Charltonparklane said:Jesus, I must be one of the only ones who couldn't give a flying about Sunderland fans emotions or feelings.
Honestly spared no thought for them on the day, the days after or even watching Netflix doc.
Wouldn't wish any harm on them obviously but we've had enough dissapointment ourselves to let another teams feelings get in my head
Is what it is.1 -
Good points. Would argue that Donald definitley felt uncomfortable with the camera's being on him towards the end of the series. Considering that first that film of his wife convincing him to step down, showed little of him and his reactions to what his wife was suggesting.stoneroses19 said:
My thoughts are the train was coming off the tracks for Sunderland at that stage, and the club were less happy to have cameras dotted around everywhere capturing all the amateur moments.Croydon said:Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.Around the time of the checkatrade final, I think Sunderland were only a couple of points of automatic promotion with games in hand, they then continued with drawing/losing a bunch of games. Mood had clearly changed in the club.The fact that 5 episodes focused mostly on Donald and Methven, yet after the play off final, you hardly got any decent footage and interview time with them. Methven in particular, I imagine, threw his toys out the pram and was not in a professional capacity to be seen on camera (that’s just my opinion after seeing how he reacted with on the spot pressure throughout the series, namely the public swearing of the comms manager at half time).
Maybe he wanted out then, but knew he couldn't say that on camera knowing that it would most likely leak out in someway.
Also at the end when he speaking to that fan when coming out of Wembley, he knows its on camera and was always looking to move away as quickly as possible and didn't seem happy to discuss anything with anyone.
Not convinced Methven is the same. Part of me thinks he is enjoying the bad reaction he is getting on social media, as it fuels his reputation that he thrives on whether bad or good5 -
Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.0
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He'll have his own show on there within a year.bolloxbolder said:Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.9 -
Within a week, more like, they've got airtime to fill...RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
He'll have his own show on there within a year.bolloxbolder said:Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.2 -
Which shows that he thrives on bad reputation. When going on talksport, with how people now see him, you either acknowledge that you made mistakes or you defend your actions, regardless of how bad they were. In agreeing you have traits of Brent, of which started from people on social media, suggests that he loves the fact that people have given him this comparison as it increases his ego.bolloxbolder said:Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.
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Finished watching it all, 2 things:
If you ignore what a complete twat Methven is, he is hugely entertaining.
That is the WORST intro of any TV show I have ever seen.0 -
Instead of prison we should just sentence people to work with Charlie Methven. What could be worse?3
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I just pressed skip intro every time. I’m now kind of tempted to go back and watch it after some of the comments.0
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I honestly quite like it. It's just long when you just want to watch the episode.stackitsteve said:I just pressed skip intro every time. I’m now kind of tempted to go back and watch it after some of the comments.0
