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  • Just watched ep 5. Cant believe how gutted they were to lose the checkatrade. God knows how they are going to feel in episode 6 with 6 seconds to go. I feel sorry for them already.

    Looking forward to watching ep 6 tonight.
    Too much attention on checkatrade. They didn’t expect to beat us in play off final 
    They were completely shot when it came to playing us . I don’t think we realised it at the time. 
  • Didn't think it was anywhere near as good as season 1. There was too much focus on the owner and CEO. I can only think that was the narrative they wanted to pedal??? If so, for me it backfired as they both came out of it looking like a couple of clueless chancers who had no real financial clout. This series just went some way to confirming the media stories that have surfaced about them. So many of the scenes were clearly staged and scripted. 

    For a club that size they (the owners/management) were a complete embarrassment. And for that, I feel for their fans, but not for the pain of losing at Wembley - that's just football and all clubs (unless plastic ones at the very very top) experience that. 

    I wanted to see more insight from the players and staff - maybe they all (sensibly) refused to participate in much detail?

    Anyway, up the BFG you legend. 
  • Really wanted to see Methven's face when the winner went in so was disappointing to see all the focus was on the fans (whom I felt sorry for). 
    Donald seems a nice guy, heart in the right place but out of his depth. 
    Enjoyed it but not as much as the first. 
  • edited April 2020
    In terms of the editing, Christmas trees in November seemed a bit weird. Mind you, I knew somebody (a mate's girlfriend) who put hers up in August. I went round to his place one August or September as we were going on to a car show. I looked around their living room with Christmas tree with wrapped presents under it, decorations and the Orville Christmas show on the TV. I was speechless. He said it all really " She likes Christmas". 
  • I quite like Stewart Donaldson. I think we would take someone like him at the helm of Charlton right now, eh?
  • meldrew66 said:
    I quite like Stewart Donaldson. I think we would take someone like him at the helm of Charlton right now, eh?
    He came off as a nice guy, but was ridiculously clueless about the business of football. The deadline day scene of buying Grigg is something he must hate to have to watch back now.
  • edited April 2020
    I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window. 

    And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.
  • I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window. 

    And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.
     Do you mind.
     I'm just about to settle down and watch the last episode with the family.

    We had enormous fun watching the fake Grand National and now you throw this out there.

    I'm starting to think my whole life is a fraud!
  • Just watched all of it in one go, great ending!
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  • I'm half way through and will skip to the last episode. For a behind the scenes football show to have absolutely no dressing room access is a killer. Obviously the manager knocked that on the head. As others have said, the editing is so careless. In one of the games, end of November or sometime, we cut to the crowd all in t shirts. Just really careless. Some of the transfer stuff looks fake, especially the stuff early on deadline day or a day or two before. Lots of green outside and summer sunshine coming through the window. 

    And the theme song is terrible. My god, what a dirge.
    I don't mind it, but it does go on a bit.
  • Methven

    "Sunderland are one of the worst team I've supported."

    That is all.
    Also Methven

    ”people in London just think the northeast is full of poor, stupid people that voted for Brexit...” then he kinda trails off! 
  • It’s a badly made tv doc. Don’t read too much into it. The coverage of Wembley was poor, but that’s because it didn’t go the way the programme makers wanted. Watch the last ep as it’s a bit of fun for us Charlton fans, but generally it’s not all that ! 
  • Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.
  • Croydon said:
    Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.
    I think they wanted to highlight just how desperate they are to win a trophy, they make so many references to the 1973 FA Cup winning team. 
  • As others have said, the nonsensical focus on the Checkatrade Trophy was another key factor in killing their season.

    When they played us at Wembley you could see that after 30 mins they were out on their feet - they had no edge whatsoever to their game and were very heavy legged.

    Why play another six games you don't need to play to win a tinpot trophy? Sure, you might make 1 million quid, but you'd make a lot more if you get automatic promotion!
  • 10 minutes in... Methven is David Brent reincarnated 
  • Croydon said:
    Why did they give an entire episode to the Checkatrade but then squeeze in the end of the season and the playoffs into one? Seems an odd match to focus on so much.
    My thoughts are the train was coming off the tracks for Sunderland at that stage, and the club were less happy to have cameras dotted around everywhere capturing all the amateur moments. 

    Around the time of the checkatrade final, I think Sunderland were only a couple of points of automatic promotion with games in hand, they then continued with drawing/losing a bunch of games. Mood had clearly changed in the club. 

    The fact that 5 episodes focused mostly on Donald and Methven, yet after the play off final, you hardly got any decent footage and interview time with them. Methven in particular, I imagine, threw his toys out the pram and was not in a professional capacity to be seen on camera (that’s just my opinion after seeing how he reacted with on the spot pressure throughout the series, namely the public swearing of the comms manager at half time). 
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  • Jesus, I must be one of the only ones who couldn't give a flying about Sunderland fans emotions or feelings. 

    Honestly spared no thought for them on the day, the days after or even watching Netflix doc. 

    Wouldn't wish any harm on them obviously but we've had enough dissapointment ourselves to let another teams feelings get in my head

    Is what it is. 
    I felt some sympathy for the ones that were shown as they came across very genuine and decent. Didn't really have anything to do with them playing us in the final, could've been against anyone and I'd have felt the same. 
  • Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.
  • Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.
    He'll have his own show on there within a year.
    Within a week, more like, they've got airtime to fill...
  • Methven was on talksport this morning just before midday talking about this. Ionly caught the tail end and tbf he acknowledged that he has some Brent traits.
    Which shows that he thrives on bad reputation. When going on talksport, with how people now see him, you either acknowledge that you made mistakes or you defend your actions, regardless of how bad they were. In agreeing you have traits of Brent, of which started from people on social media, suggests that he loves the fact that people have given him this comparison as it increases his ego.
  • Finished watching it all, 2 things:

    If you ignore what a complete twat Methven is, he is hugely entertaining. 

    That is the WORST intro of any TV show I have ever seen. 
  • edited April 2020
    Instead of prison we should just sentence people to work with Charlie Methven. What could be worse? 
  • I just pressed skip intro every time. I’m now kind of tempted to go back and watch it after some of the comments.
  • I just pressed skip intro every time. I’m now kind of tempted to go back and watch it after some of the comments.
    I honestly quite like it.  It's just long when you just want to watch the episode.
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