Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Peterborough v Charlton - Post Match Views

12346

Comments

  • Anyone else notice the lack of pubs in the city centre

    You're kidding right ?
    Peterborough is pub city.
  • edited January 2019
    cabbles said:

    A game we would have won with Taylor in the side although I thought Reeco did ok

    Thought we controlled the second half, looked far superior than a team 2 places below us and at home

    Back 5 look confident, only time I thought they might score was the chance early in the second half

    My lad still hasn’t seen an away win in 3 years of trying..

    Need 3 points at fleetwood

    Mate it will come. I remember going from Bristol City away win on a Sunday in Nov 2012 to Bristol Rovers away on Tues night in Nov 2016. Think that was my longest run

    Granted I wasn’t going to many away games back then, but I really did pick some pearlers. The Col U defeat in the FA Cup and the 6-0 at Hull were particular highlights
    Don't underestimate Hull. A cracking day out.
  • Blucher said:

    An excellent day out. Pre-match, we took in The Ostrich Inn (an early opener), The Bumble Inn (a very impressive micropub), The Brewery Tap (very good Thai main courses for £7.95) and The Stoneworks (which specialises in strong, keg beers). After the game, we went to the Coalheavers Arms, the Palmerston Arms and, finally, Charters Bar on the way back into town. All very good and the day was rounded off with an Italian meal near the Cathedral.

    As to the game, I thought that Peterborough started on the front foot, without really threatening our goal. They had quite a few corners but they were all expertly defended and Bauer and Bielik headed several away. We got into the game about 20 minutes in and began to control midfield. Williams' ability to run with the ball and beat players started to trouble them, although the only real effort of note in the first half was Josh Cullen's bouncing shot from a very good Grant cross, which their keeper tipped over the bar.

    We were the better side in the second half, with a deflected Grant shot bouncing off the bar and Reeves hitting the ball just past the left hand post when he might have done better. Peterborough had their only real chance of the game, which Godden thankfully prodded wide. We then went through a spell when we were finding it difficult to get up the field and Bowyer responded to that by bringing Reeco on for Darren Pratley and going two up top. It worked and we started to carry a bigger threat. A very impressive cameo from Reeco, who I guess will start next Saturday, not least because he's likely to be all we've got left.

    Such a pity about the feeble penalty. These things happen but I fail to understand why players don't take a proper run up. If that had gone in, there'd have been clear blue water between us Peterborough with a 9 point buffer (10 on Donny) and a more realistic - albeit outside - chance of competing for the top 2 automatic places. On the plus side, it's a clean sheet, another away point and Peterborough lost the chance to close the existing gap.

    I thought that we defended extremely well and that Dillon was excellent in commanding his box, punching clear a number of dangerous crosses. Purrington, Bauer and Naby were also first class, with the latter imperious in the second half. Cullen and Bielik were dominant in midfield, although my heart was in my mouth when Bielik, having already been booked, quite unnecessarily pulled back one of their players under the referee's nose. Very naive and that really could have cost us. Up front, Grant did what he could against a couple of centre halves, whilst Reeco offered very good support for the last 25 minutes or so.

    Assuming that the SLP is correct and that Grant is on his way out, it's hard to feel optimistic about our promotion prospects, with Duchatelet reverting to type and flogging off one of our youngsters after we've had half a season or so out of them. The prospects of Lee Bowyer being gave an meaningful sum for a replacement is next to zero - it will, in all likelihood, be yet another loanee and, unless we get extremely lucky, not someone at Karlan's level. It also breaks up the most successful striking partnership that we've had since the mid-70s - hardly a recipe for success.

    I fear that, if we are facing another season in League 1 come the end of the season, our best out of contract players - Aribo, Bauer, Fosu and Williams - will all leave and the excellent loanees like Cullen and Bielik will return to their parent clubs and be loaned out to Championship clubs. We will be faced will a total rebuilding job - thus it ever was under this regime - and, with no money coming in, Duchatelet is very likely to be tempted by offers for Lyle Taylor. The worst case scenario is that Lee Bowyer and Jacko conclude that they are pissing in the wind under Duchatelet and find alternative employment elsewhere - given the job they've done, I don't think they'd be short of offers.

    Decent crawl by the sounds of it.
  • A very late review. A very frantic game, one which we probably shaded as we got stronger as the game went on. Purrington had his best game for us, a goal saving clearence in the first half

    The 433 or 4231 formation didn't work, we looked massively better when Reeco came on. Indeed I thought we underused Reeco, so many time the long passes were aimed at Karlan, as if the rest of the team didn't trust him. Karlan was pretty ineffective and the penalty was poor, but nobody there could question his effort. Taylor is a massive miss, he makes the team tick, and Grant to me is a far lesser player without him up there.

    I'm not convinced by EITHER Grant or Taylor as penalty takers, neither gives me complete confidence with their technique, so it was always likely than Grant would miss one at some point.

  • Ben18 said:

    Leuth said:

    kentred2 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    With Williams and Reeves behind him, he should have scored more.

    Unfortunately wasn't our day.

    Reeves can’t create. Pass completion must have been less than 40%. Most attacks ended when he was in possession. And as for that last minute free kick!

    Absolute nonsense. He passed well in the midfield and only lost it attempting killer passes. Someone has to! He looked menacing again. The last minute free kick wasn't terrible either - nobody was quite in the right place for it. These things happen.
    The delivery at the end was identical to the one 3 minutes before. Unfortunately no-one thought to hang around the far post for the knock down
    Probably better to have been sat with the stewards it was that high & long. Awful free kick....... it pains me to say it but just look at Millwall as to how to deliver a free kick !!
  • thenewbie said:

    Oggy Red said:


    Take a bow, Dillon Phillips ......... 3 clean sheets in a row.

    Not many keepers achieve that in a season - and of course, it's team effort.

    Which in fairness probably shows that bringing in an experienced and competitive back up keeper was actually a good idea - Dillon has been on top form and knowing someone is just waiting to take his place if he got complacent or sloppy (not that he'd want that anyway of course) will help to motivate him.
    I don't think Dillon needs motivation he just needs a chance to play. I like him as a keeper and am pleased to see him starting.
  • edited January 2019
    https://t.co/OFUILOnYh1 Ben Reeves interview
  • edited January 2019
    Blucher said:

    An excellent day out. Pre-match, we took in The Ostrich Inn (an early opener), The Bumble Inn (a very impressive micropub), The Brewery Tap (very good Thai main courses for £7.95) and The Stoneworks (which specialises in strong, keg beers). After the game, we went to the Coalheavers Arms, the Palmerston Arms and, finally, Charters Bar on the way back into town. All very good and the day was rounded off with an Italian meal near the Cathedral.

    Impressive pub crawl. But more impressive how you remember it all in such detail. Hats off!
  • So Farewell then Steve Evans,
    as EJ Thribb would say in Private Eye.

    Where next for you now?
    Already many more successful egos
    filling in Suduko at the Job Centre,
    Jose, Big Sam, Pards.

    Maybe Scotland?
    Ayr fans could still remember you fondly
    after you scored 4 goals for them
    in 1985.

    I was pleased to be at your swan-song
    at Boro, or United,
    I’m never quite sure which.
    Karlan, his head already further north,
    kindly letting you keep a point.

    But it wasn’t enough for Barry and Darragh
    who confirmed what we already knew;
    you were always a poor substitute for
    Darren Ferguson,
    himself a very poor substitute for his father.

    Seeing you squawking incomprehensibly
    at your players one last time, reminded me of
    The Penguin in Batman.
    The funny one from the Sixties.

    In true maverick fashion, in a time when
    managers are mainly sacked for poor performances,
    you were sacked, just for being you.

    ‘Is that a pie in your pocket?’ we sang.
    Probably. And now a P45.
  • Sponsored links:


  • Not going to do my usual post-match comment able the game or the technical and tactical aspects that I thought worked well or things that may need to be improved. What I am going to say is the atmosphere was immense, specific players were too, notably for me Naby Sarr, and it is a shame about Grant.

    A decent result that could've and maybe should've been better against a top six rival. We must bring in a couple of players between now and Thursday's deadline, that's so important now. Win our next few games and see where we are at the end of February is my thinking, but of course take one game at a time. The bonus for us is we have a good week between matches too.

    Every Saturday we follow,
    The boys in red and white,
    Now we got Lee Bowyer,
    We're fucking dynamite,
    Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed (@JamesSeed),
    They won the FA Cup,
    We know you won't believe us,
    The reds are going up,
    Allez, allez, allez!
  • So Farewell then Steve Evans,
    as EJ Thribb would say in Private Eye.

    In true maverick fashion, in a time when
    managers are mainly sacked for poor performances,
    you were sacked, just for being you.


    Brilliant line ...... ha ha

    Steve Evans should join Millwall. Nobody likes them either.

  • Sage said:

    Not going to do my usual post-match comment able the game or the technical and tactical aspects that I thought worked well or things that may need to be improved. What I am going to say is the atmosphere was immense, specific players were too, notably for me Naby Sarr, and it is a shame about Grant.

    A decent result that could've and maybe should've been better against a top six rival. We must bring in a couple of players between now and Thursday's deadline, that's so important now. Win our next few games and see where we are at the end of February is my thinking, but of course take one game at a time. The bonus for us is we have a good week between matches too.

    Every Saturday we follow,
    The boys in red and white,
    Now we got Lee Bowyer,
    We're fucking dynamite,
    Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed (@JamesSeed),
    They won the FA Cup,
    We know you won't believe us,
    The reds are going up,
    Allez, allez, allez!

    It’s pathetic I know, but I get emotional every time I hear that.
  • JamesSeed said:

    Sage said:

    Not going to do my usual post-match comment able the game or the technical and tactical aspects that I thought worked well or things that may need to be improved. What I am going to say is the atmosphere was immense, specific players were too, notably for me Naby Sarr, and it is a shame about Grant.

    A decent result that could've and maybe should've been better against a top six rival. We must bring in a couple of players between now and Thursday's deadline, that's so important now. Win our next few games and see where we are at the end of February is my thinking, but of course take one game at a time. The bonus for us is we have a good week between matches too.

    Every Saturday we follow,
    The boys in red and white,
    Now we got Lee Bowyer,
    We're fucking dynamite,
    Sam Bartram, Jimmy Seed (@JamesSeed),
    They won the FA Cup,
    We know you won't believe us,
    The reds are going up,
    Allez, allez, allez!

    It’s pathetic I know, but I get emotional every time I hear that.
    Only because you get your name sung, Jimmy.


    (or I should say your Grandad's) :smile:

  • As someone has already mentioned, if the club knew Grant was going as he had asked to go, and if it is true he did not train on Friday, why was he allowed to take such an important penalty, although perhaps that is why the shot was pathetic
  • ross1 said:

    As someone has already mentioned, if the club knew Grant was going as he had asked to go, and if it is true he did not train on Friday, why was he allowed to take such an important penalty, although perhaps that is why the shot was pathetic

    Ummm maybe because he scored one in injury time under huge pressure to win us the 3 points the previous Sat.

    Don’t be daft. If he’d not taken it because he’s leaving and Reeves, say, missed - you’d be saying ‘why the hell didn’t our penalty taker take it?!?!? The least he could do before he left was have the bottle to step up’.
    People miss penalties. Move on.
  • edited January 2019
    Valley11 said:

    ross1 said:

    As someone has already mentioned, if the club knew Grant was going as he had asked to go, and if it is true he did not train on Friday, why was he allowed to take such an important penalty, although perhaps that is why the shot was pathetic

    Ummm maybe because he scored one in injury time under huge pressure to win us the 3 points the previous Sat.

    Don’t be daft. If he’d not taken it because he’s leaving and Reeves, say, missed - you’d be saying ‘why the hell didn’t our penalty taker take it?!?!? The least he could do before he left was have the bottle to step up’.
    People miss penalties. Move on.
    Who do you think would take pens in his and Taylor’s absence? (And Fosu’s too).

    Pratley? Bielik? Williams?
    The big left boot of Naby?
    Not Reeves because, as someone brilliantly said here, he’s a bit ‘sponge foot’.
  • To be fair to the Grant abuse for missing the penalty - I seem to remember similar questions being asked about Taylor and why he took the Rochdale (?) penalty when he'd already missed against Plymouth earlier in the season.

    What people ultimately need to remember is that there is always a 50/50 chance that a penalty will be saved or missed, quite often there wont be a reason other than the ball wasn't struck properly, certainly don't think there was anything going on with Grant mentally on Saturday as apart from that moment I thought he had an excellent game seeing he's never played up top alone before
  • Kevin Nolan's match report.

    There were other positives to warm Bowyer, prominent among them the majestic form shown by midfield anchor Krystian Bielik – mercifully recovered from the friendly fire which felled him during celebrations of Grant’s matchwinner last week.

    Bielik’s class, behind that of restless firecrackers Cullen and Johhny Williams, was the glue holding the side together. And in the light of Grant’s uncertain future and Taylor’s suspension, an eye-opening 25 minute contribution by Reeco Hackett-Fairchild will have pleased his boss.

    https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/kevin-nolans-big-match-verdict-on-peterborough-0-charlton-0-as-karlan-grant-cant-convert-from-penalty-spot/
  • JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    ross1 said:

    As someone has already mentioned, if the club knew Grant was going as he had asked to go, and if it is true he did not train on Friday, why was he allowed to take such an important penalty, although perhaps that is why the shot was pathetic

    Ummm maybe because he scored one in injury time under huge pressure to win us the 3 points the previous Sat.

    Don’t be daft. If he’d not taken it because he’s leaving and Reeves, say, missed - you’d be saying ‘why the hell didn’t our penalty taker take it?!?!? The least he could do before he left was have the bottle to step up’.
    People miss penalties. Move on.
    Who do you think would take pens in his and Taylor’s absence? (And Fosu’s too).

    Pratley? Bielik? Williams?
    The big left boot of Naby?
    Not Reeves because, as someone brillisntly said here, he’s a bit ‘sponge foot’.
    It’s more about placement than power most times so Reeves or Williams.
  • Sponsored links:


  • So it's about 35 years since we've had two strikers banging them in and bang in form over halfway through the season.

    Yet lots seem to think Grant will be easy to replace? Doubt Taylor sees it that way, let alone the rest of the squad and management.

    Very good post, being a boycotter I have not seen either of them play "live", only on the TV however I doubt Grants replacement will pick up where Grant leaves off so expect the goals to dry up.
    You do know that boycotters are allowed to go to away games.
  • ForeverAddickted
    'What people ultimately need to remember is that there is always a 50/50 chance that a penalty will be saved or missed'
    If I was taking the penalty it would be 50/50 but I would think it's more 80/20 in the takers favour for a proper penalty taker
  • To be fair to the Grant abuse for missing the penalty - I seem to remember similar questions being asked about Taylor and why he took the Rochdale (?) penalty when he'd already missed against Plymouth earlier in the season.

    What people ultimately need to remember is that there is always a 50/50 chance that a penalty will be saved or missed, quite often there wont be a reason other than the ball wasn't struck properly, certainly don't think there was anything going on with Grant mentally on Saturday as apart from that moment I thought he had an excellent game seeing he's never played up top alone before

    Not sure where you got your 50/50 chance from. Since 1992 in the Premier league, it's been over an 80/20 chance of scoring (83.42% scored, 3.97% missed and 12.6% saved). I don't suppose the other leagues are much different.

    http://www.myfootballfacts.com/Premier_League_Penalty_Statistics.html

  • ForeverAddickted
    'What people ultimately need to remember is that there is always a 50/50 chance that a penalty will be saved or missed'
    If I was taking the penalty it would be 50/50 but I would think it's more 80/20 in the takers favour for a proper penalty taker

    Not sure about this 50/50 nosnense - I'd say Grant is a 70/30 but I would expect at least 90/10 from a penalty taker.
  • ForeverAddickted
    'What people ultimately need to remember is that there is always a 50/50 chance that a penalty will be saved or missed'
    If I was taking the penalty it would be 50/50 but I would think it's more 80/20 in the takers favour for a proper penalty taker

    Not sure about this 50/50 nosnense - I'd say Grant is a 70/30 but I would expect at least 90/10 from a penalty taker.
    9 out of 10 penalties scored would be mightily impressive at any level.
  • edited January 2019
    That is what you should be looking for IMO. I have a system with my team, 4 tested penalty takers and a clear order. There is a clear instruction that if the taker doesn't feel 100% about it or is off the pitch, no problem, pass it down the line. We introduced the system after missing one and haven't missed one since.

    We have scored 7 taken by 3 different players
  • That is what you should be looking for IMO. I have a system with my team, 4 tested penalty takers and a clear order. There is a clear instruction that if the taker doesn't feel 100% about it or is off the pitch, no problem, pass it down the line. We introduced the system after missing one and haven't missed one since.

    We have scored 7 taken by 3 different players

    England should have given you a shout years ago!
  • Valley11 said:

    JamesSeed said:

    Valley11 said:

    ross1 said:

    As someone has already mentioned, if the club knew Grant was going as he had asked to go, and if it is true he did not train on Friday, why was he allowed to take such an important penalty, although perhaps that is why the shot was pathetic

    Ummm maybe because he scored one in injury time under huge pressure to win us the 3 points the previous Sat.

    Don’t be daft. If he’d not taken it because he’s leaving and Reeves, say, missed - you’d be saying ‘why the hell didn’t our penalty taker take it?!?!? The least he could do before he left was have the bottle to step up’.
    People miss penalties. Move on.
    Who do you think would take pens in his and Taylor’s absence? (And Fosu’s too).

    Pratley? Bielik? Williams?
    The big left boot of Naby?
    Not Reeves because, as someone brillisntly said here, he’s a bit ‘sponge foot’.
    It’s more about placement than power most times so Reeves or Williams.
    If you can execute it, placement and power is a wonderful combination. Top corner either side of the net beats
    Off_it said:

    There are only really three outcomes for a penalty. You miss the target, the keeper saves or you score.

    So using Charlton Life logic that means you have a one in three chance of scoring, or 33%.

    That makes me feel a whole lot better about my own 50% strike rate over the years (two taken, one scored).

    Thank you Charlton Life for cheering up my day. That miss on Hilly Fields had been haunting me for over 30 years!

    Off_it said:

    There are only really three outcomes for a penalty. You miss the target, the keeper saves or you score.

    So using Charlton Life logic that means you have a one in three chance of scoring, or 33%.

    That makes me feel a whole lot better about my own 50% strike rate over the years (two taken, one scored).

    Thank you Charlton Life for cheering up my day. That miss on Hilly Fields had been haunting me for over 30 years!

    Hilly Fields? That's where I honed all my skills.

  • edited January 2019
    The clue is in the name .... penalty, to penalise.

    The game is stopped. Only the kicker and the keeper may be in the box, until the kick is taken.
    All other players must be outside box and D.

    The kick is awarded 12 yards from goal, and the keeper has to stay on his line until the ball is kicked.
    It's a straight shoot-out. A clear goal scoring opportunity.

    The chance that the kick be missed or saved creates the tension and excitement.

    All the advantages lie with the kicker. It is expected he will score and the defending team penalised by conceding a goal.
Sign In or Register to comment.

Roland Out Forever!