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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Stokes was impressive with the ball yesterday. If he fit enough to bowl 10 overs or is he still being managed?
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    killerandflash said:
    Stokes was impressive with the ball yesterday. If he fit enough to bowl 10 overs or is he still being managed?
    Would imagine he is fit enough , but no use flogging him to death as they have plenty of options . 
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    Why have we got 2 cricket threads running?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    suzisausage said:
    Why have we got 2 cricket threads running?
    Pres wanted to make a separate one for non-England matches at the WC. But looks like it’s taken on the England discussion today too.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Whatever score we chase will be at least 50 too many then it should have been. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    Archer, Wood and Woakes have been a real handful today.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    bolloxbolder said:
    Whatever score we chase will be at least 50 too many then it should have been. 

    BOWLINGOMRW
    CR Woakes52161
    JC Archer91303
    LE Plunkett50301
    MA Wood6.40183
    BA Stokes40250
    AU Rashid100610
    JE Root50272

    Which bowler(s) conceded these 50 runs, @bolloxbolder ? 
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    I was referring to the two dropped catches. Pretty sure more wickets would have fallen in the first 10 if Gayle had not been dropped by Wood.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    bolloxbolder said:
    I was referring to the two dropped catches. Pretty sure more wickets would have fallen in the first 10 if Gayle had not been dropped by Wood.
    How many do you think they "should" have been bowled out for?  162?  Less?
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Yep
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  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    edited July 2019
    Jimmy limped off today. 
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/48840842
    .
    Hardly surprising, just checked and he bowled 47 overs in June. That is no good for him.  Not his fault, it's the ridiculous schedule and the weather. You can train as much as you want but playing is completely different. It's no wonder a 36 year old gets crocked with such a lack of cricket. 47 overs in a month? I used to do that in a weekend.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    Addick Addict said:
    Riviera said:
    Australia will win the Cup.
    I'm on NZ @ 12/1 with a saver on us @ 9/4

    One of us is going to be correct - I've just traded out some of my potential profit on NZ @ 3.3 





  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    edited July 2019
    England v Ireland a 4 day Test Match at Lords starts on Wednesday week. 
     Archer and Roy to debut? I think so.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,783
    So much for specialist squads for ODIs and Test matches - 9 of the WC 15 could play in the Ashes too (Roy, Root, Bairstow, Buttler, Woakes, Ali, Stokes, Archer and Wood).

    Australia, by contrast, have named a 25 man Ashes squad of which only Warner, Smith, Khawaja,  Cummins, Starc and Lyon were in their original WC 15.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/07/15/thought-england-had-blown-cricket-world-cup-final-tremendous/

    Even Boycott thinks England should pick Roy for the Ashes!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited July 2019
    I mean at this point what do we have to lose by going for it?

    We haven’t found the answer to the openers problem since Strauss and Cook. Good luck trying to name all the lads who have come and gone since Strauss’ last Test match.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Shane Warne reckons we should open with Bairstow and Roy in the Ashes. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,673
    Riviera said:
    Shane Warne reckons we should open with Bairstow and Roy in the Ashes. 
    That's because he wants  the Aussies to win.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Riviera said:
    Shane Warne reckons we should open with Bairstow and Roy in the Ashes. 
    Burns in for Morgan, move him to 1.  Everyone else drips down a place. 

    Burns
    Roy
    Bairstow 
    Root
    Stokes 
    Buttler 

    Then perm any 5 from Jimmy, Broad, Woakes, Archer, Curren, Ali, Rashid and Leach.

    My choice would be Ali, Woakes, Archer, Broad and Anderson.  God knows who would take the new ball with Anderson though. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Riviera said:
    Shane Warne reckons we should open with Bairstow and Roy in the Ashes. 
    Burns in for Morgan, move him to 1.  Everyone else drips down a place. 

    Burns
    Roy
    Bairstow 
    Root
    Stokes 
    Buttler 

    Then perm any 5 from Jimmy, Broad, Woakes, Archer, Curren, Ali, Rashid and Leach.

    My choice would be Ali, Woakes, Archer, Broad and Anderson.  God knows who would take the new ball with Anderson though. 
    Would you have Bairstow keeping and batting at three?  Or tell him he's no longer a wicket keeper? 
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  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    edited July 2019
    My team would be:
    1. Burns
    2. Roy
    3. Northeast/Denly
    4. Root
    5. Bairstow
    6. Stokes 
    7. Buttler
    8. Ali
    9. Woakes
    10. Archer
    11. Anderson
    Buttler would have the gloves if I had my way too
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Callumcafc said:
    I mean at this point what do we have to lose by going for it?

    We haven’t found the answer to the openers problem since Strauss and Cook. Good luck trying to name all the lads who have come and gone since Strauss’ last Test match.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/45471292
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    Pelling1993 said:
    My team would be:
    1. Burns
    2. Roy
    3. Northeast/Denly
    4. Root
    5. Bairstow
    6. Stokes 
    7. Buttler
    8. Ali
    9. Woakes
    10. Archer
    11. Anderson
    Buttler would have the gloves if I had my way too
    Anderson is injured. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    The last I saw he faces a race to be fit, not confirmed as out. I would play Broad against Ireland next week to cover that baseChizz said:
    Pelling1993 said:
    My team would be:
    1. Burns
    2. Roy
    3. Northeast/Denly
    4. Root
    5. Bairstow
    6. Stokes 
    7. Buttler
    8. Ali
    9. Woakes
    10. Archer
    11. Anderson
    Buttler would have the gloves if I had my way too
    Anderson is injured. 

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chizz said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Riviera said:
    Shane Warne reckons we should open with Bairstow and Roy in the Ashes. 
    Burns in for Morgan, move him to 1.  Everyone else drips down a place. 

    Burns
    Roy
    Bairstow 
    Root
    Stokes 
    Buttler 

    Then perm any 5 from Jimmy, Broad, Woakes, Archer, Curren, Ali, Rashid and Leach.

    My choice would be Ali, Woakes, Archer, Broad and Anderson.  God knows who would take the new ball with Anderson though. 
    Would you have Bairstow keeping and batting at three?  Or tell him he's no longer a wicket keeper? 
    Ideally no, he is also a world class out fielder as well.

    Until someone in authority gets Root and Bairstow told we will have the former at 4 and the later keeping. 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    Archer injured too.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Test squad for the Ireland game to be announced later today at Canterbury. No Anderson or Archer as both being given more time to get over injuries. Archer may even be kept out until Lords. Also Bairstow a doubt so Foakes may play. The Telegraph (and they are well informed) see it as this:

    Likely team v Ireland: R Burns, J Roy, J Denly, J Root (capt), B Stokes, J Buttler, J Bairstow (or B Foakes), Moeen Ali, C Woakes, S Curran and S Broad. 
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    That team is cack. It will be enough for Ireland I suppose.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2019/07/16/jason-roy-will-have-chance-show-england-selectors-have-missing/
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Riviera said:
    Test squad for the Ireland game to be announced later today at Canterbury. No Anderson or Archer as both being given more time to get over injuries. Archer may even be kept out until Lords. Also Bairstow a doubt so Foakes may play. The Telegraph (and they are well informed) see it as this:

    Likely team v Ireland: R Burns, J Roy, J Denly, J Root (capt), B Stokes, J Buttler, J Bairstow (or B Foakes), Moeen Ali, C Woakes, S Curran and S Broad. 
    Archer has had a niggle, but hasn't played any red ball cricket since last summer. A big call to throw him into the Ashes without any red ball games

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