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2019/20 Championship games
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We need something against Forest now ... 😳BR3red said:
We lose both away and they pick up points at home, all of a sudden we are in the bottom 3 for 1st time.ForeverAddickted said:Prioritise the home games... that should give us enough points
Treat the away games as bonuses yet try not to lose them
Agree we obviously have games at home but in 10 days if we are in a relegation place , it is not great for the players psychologically.
I think we have loads to stay up personally but being in the bottom 3 is not great in February.
We need something from Stoke...0 -
But Wigan lost at home today, so even if we lost to Forest we wouldn't be in the bottom 3 still ahead of the big 2 home games against Blackburn and Luton.BR3red said:
We need something against Forest now ... 😳BR3red said:
We lose both away and they pick up points at home, all of a sudden we are in the bottom 3 for 1st time.ForeverAddickted said:Prioritise the home games... that should give us enough points
Treat the away games as bonuses yet try not to lose them
Agree we obviously have games at home but in 10 days if we are in a relegation place , it is not great for the players psychologically.
I think we have loads to stay up personally but being in the bottom 3 is not great in February.
We need something from Stoke...
So it's not ideal at all but defeat to Forest isn't the end of the world3 -
If we were in the bottom three people would still be saying it’ll be ok as we have xx games to go, xx games at home, players returning from injury etc etc. Only when we go down would their heads come out of the sand.3
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Millwall/WBA .. if this game finishes it'll be a mini miracle .. the pitch is getting waterlogged and the winds are blowing like a mini hurricane1
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Really want to see Sheff Utd because of the team they've got nowLincsaddick said:Millwall/WBA .. if this game finishes it'll be a mini miracle .. the pitch is getting waterlogged and the winds are blowing like a mini hurricane
Reluctant to miss this Millwall game though as the conditions should really make it interesting1 -
I spend too much time channel hopping ((:>)1
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The size of the crowd at Millwall is amazingly small considering the season they're having0
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seems that conditions have improved ..Lincsaddick said:Millwall/WBA .. if this game finishes it'll be a mini miracle .. the pitch is getting waterlogged and the winds are blowing like a mini hurricane
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Took about a minute to place the ball for the first corner.0
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West Brom should be ahead1
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Jesus what a farce of an incident that was that West Brom missed!!0
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Still doesnt look as bad as the conditions we had to endure against Yeovil a few years ago!!3
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Scum losing1
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Boing Boing0
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Gutted for them 😈0
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Robson-Kanu missed an absolute sitter for 2-0 from about a yard out0
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West Brom should be out of sight here. Messing up far too many opportunities.0
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Scum losing 2 02
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Just need the Spanners to get a consolation last kick for 3 points in the prediction league 🤞0
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ended in balmy conditions ((:>) .. WBA look like they are right back in form after a bad spell0
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It's no coincidence that 3 of the bottom 4 are occupied by teams promoted last season. The 4th team in that group, Wigan, came up the previous season.
There are exceptions, such as Sheffield United, but it seems to me that, without investment, the gulf between the divisions is as wide as that between the PL and Championship.
We face a challenge to survive but think we will providing we stop leaking soft goals, And if we do it will be interesting to see what investment, albeit on a controlled basis, the owners will be prepared to make.6 -
Few years ago Wigan, Rotherham and Barnsley came up and were all relegated. Does seem a bit of a gap between divisions.1
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I don't think there's that much of a gulf.
5 years ago Wolves and Brentford stayed up.
4 years ago Bristol City and Preston stayed up and have been in the championship since.
3 years ago Burton stayed up.
2 years ago Sheffield United and Millwall stayed up.
Last year Wigan and Blackburn stayed up.
So in the last 5 years 9 of the 15 sides promoted have stayed in the division the next year.
If you look at this year Barnsley are a perennial yo-yo side anyway and Luton were always going to struggle as they'd had 2 straight promotions. Luton were in the National league just 6 years ago.1 -
40% going straight back down after the euphoria and crest of a wave that promotion brings is a crap percentage from this division .Chris_from_Sidcup said:I don't think there's that much of a gulf.
5 years ago Wolves and Brentford stayed up.
4 years ago Bristol City and Preston stayed up and have been in the championship since.
3 years ago Burton stayed up.
2 years ago Sheffield United and Millwall stayed up.
Last year Wigan and Blackburn stayed up.
So in the last 5 years 9 of the 15 sides promoted have stayed in the division the next year.
If you look at this year Barnsley are a perennial yo-yo side anyway and Luton were always going to struggle as they'd had 2 straight promotions. Luton were in the National league just 6 years ago.
If anyone can be bothered to look I reckon the previous 10 years would show less than 40% !0 -
To be honest it will only get tougher and tougher as premier league parachute payments get higher.oohaahmortimer said:
40% going straight back down after the euphoria and crest of a wave that promotion brings is a crap percentage from this division .Chris_from_Sidcup said:I don't think there's that much of a gulf.
5 years ago Wolves and Brentford stayed up.
4 years ago Bristol City and Preston stayed up and have been in the championship since.
3 years ago Burton stayed up.
2 years ago Sheffield United and Millwall stayed up.
Last year Wigan and Blackburn stayed up.
So in the last 5 years 9 of the 15 sides promoted have stayed in the division the next year.
If you look at this year Barnsley are a perennial yo-yo side anyway and Luton were always going to struggle as they'd had 2 straight promotions. Luton were in the National league just 6 years ago.
If anyone can be bothered to look I reckon the previous 10 years would show less than 40% !
Teams coming down now get around 90m across 3 years if they don't go back up which means in a season like this one where none of the sides relegated in the last 3 years have gone back up yet means almost half the division is earning vast amounts more than the sides who haven't been in the premier league.
Then you have sides like Derby trying to fiddle expenses with stupid ground purchase deals and it's no surprise it's tough for sides coming up from league one.2 -
The last 4 years promoted sides have been (finishing or current positions in the Championship the following season in brackets):Chris_from_Sidcup said:I don't think there's that much of a gulf.
5 years ago Wolves and Brentford stayed up.
4 years ago Bristol City and Preston stayed up and have been in the championship since.
3 years ago Burton stayed up.
2 years ago Sheffield United and Millwall stayed up.
Last year Wigan and Blackburn stayed up.
So in the last 5 years 9 of the 15 sides promoted have stayed in the division the next year.
If you look at this year Barnsley are a perennial yo-yo side anyway and Luton were always going to struggle as they'd had 2 straight promotions. Luton were in the National league just 6 years ago.
2015/16 - Wigan (23), Burton (20), Barnsley (14)
2016/17 - Sheffield United (10), Bolton (21), Millwall (8)
2017/18 - Blackburn (15), Wigan (18), Rotherham (22)
2018/19 - Luton (24), Barnsley (23), Charlton (21)
The ones in bold were all relegated within 2 seasons of promotion. This only leaves Sheffield United, Blackburn, Millwall and Charlton but Millwall missed relegation by one place last season and we are only one place of going down at the moment and the team that is in 22nd place is Wigan - who were promoted the previous season.
Sheffield United won League 1 by 15 points with 100 in total and were miles ahead of the other teams in the Division. Last season 9 points separated the top 5 and there wasn't a stand out side. This season Rotherham would be on course for about 86 points had this been a 46 match season and there is just 8 points covering the top 7.
On that basis, what chance would the current top 3 (Rotherham, Wycombe and Peterborough) have of surviving without investment?
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Job done ✅BR3red said:
We need something against Forest now ... 😳BR3red said:
We lose both away and they pick up points at home, all of a sudden we are in the bottom 3 for 1st time.ForeverAddickted said:Prioritise the home games... that should give us enough points
Treat the away games as bonuses yet try not to lose them
Agree we obviously have games at home but in 10 days if we are in a relegation place , it is not great for the players psychologically.
I think we have loads to stay up personally but being in the bottom 3 is not great in February.
We need something from Stoke...3 -
Last week...
CAFC
9 away games left
7 at home
Wigan
9 home games left
7 at home
Now:
7 each home and away
Form guide last six games:6 2 2 2 8 6 +2 8 12 Millwall 6 2 2 2 7 6 +1 8 13 Charlton 6 2 2 2 7 8 -1 8 14 Huddersfield 6 2 1 3 9 11 -2 7 15 Wigan Athletic 6 2 1 3 7 9 -2 7 16 Swansea City 6 1 3 2 5 7 -2 6 17 Sheffield Wed 6 1 2 3 4 9 -5 5 18 Middlesbrough 6 0 4 2 8 10 -2 4 19 Reading 6 0 4 2 4 7 -3 4 20 Barnsley 6 1 1 4 4 9 -5 4 21 Leeds Utd 6 1 1 4 4 9 -5 4 22 QP Rangers 6 1 1 4 3 8 -5 4 23 Luton Town 6 1 0 5 6 13 -7 3 24 Hull City 6 0 1 5 3 13 -10 3 -
Wigan at home 2 games : 1 point
CAFC away 2 games : 3 points3
