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WTF is going on at West Brom
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Thank the Lord for that, things could have been so much worse otherwise.Covered End said:We caught the 17.09 to Snow Hill & walked to New Street to catch the 17.50.
Looks like getting out bang on time avoided the problems.
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However we must be honest and now we are doing well, we have started to have an element who are using a Charlton away game as an excuse to behave badly.4
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Why would people want to misbehave? With me not attending I am guessing it is a bit of boisterous behaviour going too far at times.redman said:However we must be honest and now we are doing well, we have started to have an element who are using a Charlton away game as an excuse to behave badly.
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I don’t think doing well has anything to do with it. If anything it should be the opposite.redman said:However we must be honest and now we are doing well, we have started to have an element who are using a Charlton away game as an excuse to behave badly.0 -
I recommend people to contact them, they are good people, hardworking, and held in grudging respect by plod. Grudging because they don't let themselves get fobbed off, respect because they gather evidence before making their case.guinnessaddick said:I tweeted this to FSA Faircop and this was their reply.7 -
Well if you describe fighting & plastic bottle throwing at HT as boisterous, you would be correct.ElfsborgAddick said:
Why would people want to misbehave? With me not attending I am guessing it is a bit of boisterous behaviour going too far at times.redman said:However we must be honest and now we are doing well, we have started to have an element who are using a Charlton away game as an excuse to behave badly.0 -
Left the ground, got the tram to Grand Central, had a pint in Brewdog and then got the train home from New St. Sounds like I missed all the fun!0
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I was brought up in Catford.Covered End said:
Well if you describe fighting & plastic bottle throwing at HT as boisterous, you would be correct.ElfsborgAddick said:
Why would people want to misbehave? With me not attending I am guessing it is a bit of boisterous behaviour going too far at times.redman said:However we must be honest and now we are doing well, we have started to have an element who are using a Charlton away game as an excuse to behave badly.4 -
Point taken @Covered End0
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Very odd. It did seem that the police very specifically targeted people taking the train back to Brum, rather than the tram.redman said:funny if there was trouble on train at Hawthorns. On the tram to New Street there was no police presence and both sets of supporters happily mingled and discussed the game on the way back to New Street. Pubs by New Street ok with Charlton, locals and Luton drinking.0 - Sponsored links:
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But you are well behaved and 'don't look like football'!se9addick said:Left the ground, got the tram to Grand Central, had a pint in Brewdog and then got the train home from New St. Sounds like I missed all the fun!0 -
When we got to Moor Street station after the game, they wouldn’t let us get to the platform we needed to get back to London.
So we stuck on a platform that we couldn’t move from as the coppers where stopping us from going up the stairs we needed to use to get to another platoform.
The platform was heaving, one guy when we got there said he’d been stuck on it for 45 minutes, train after train arrived at set platform, letting more and more people off and making the platform more and more packed.
Someone shouted out this is like Hillsborough, which to be fair if it had continued it would have been, but of course the police are never to blame for anything.
Woman were screaming at the police to do something, and it was bloody dangerous.
We were then put on a different train (especially arranged? ) with coppers who to be fair were friendly (they’d just come from Millwall v Stoke) so perhaps this was a piece of cake.
2 hours standing on the train journey back to London, and then all the crap at Marylebone... makes you wonder how crap it’s going to get in 2 weeks time at Millwall, where every copper in the country will be on duty.0 -
Most of the time!!ElfsborgAddick said:
But you are well behaved and 'don't look like football'!se9addick said:Left the ground, got the tram to Grand Central, had a pint in Brewdog and then got the train home from New St. Sounds like I missed all the fun!1 -
I wonder if the Club (Mick Everitt perhaps?) will communicate with the police to establish what on Earth was going on, sounds extremely over the top.3
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Which will achieve nothing.se9addick said:I wonder if the Club (Mick Everitt perhaps?) will communicate with the police to establish what on Earth was going on, sounds extremely over the top.0 -
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.0
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Blimey - glad we got a cab to New St, 18.10 out of there.
What happened at ht, saw it all starting, the police then seemed to disappear ?0 -
CatAddick said:Names and address taken of everyone one train. Welcome to the free west
Not there so can only guess that the people who "beat up" the officer gave him there name and address so they could be arrested later, so saving the police time and money.iamdan said:officer ‘beaten up’ apparently
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I am disappointed to here this.Mick Everitt needs to make an official complaint on our behalf in the strongest possible way.1
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No idea why not letting Charlton fans off at Snow Hill, but instead taking everyone to Moor Street would help things. It's not as if the area round Snow Hill is "the" place to go for a drink, or that that the area would be full of Albion fans eitherMidland_Red said:A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.0 - Sponsored links:
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The COO is your man, responsible for customer satisfaction as well as the day to day running of the club in the absence of a CEO. Good luck with that.......😉AddickFC81 said:I am disappointed to here this.Mick Everitt needs to make an official complaint on our behalf in the strongest possible way.4 -
They may well be, but surely they should know the difference between "effected" and "affected", particularly in this context?PragueAddick said:
I recommend people to contact them, they are good people, hardworking, and held in grudging respect by plod. Grudging because they don't let themselves get fobbed off, respect because they gather evidence before making their case.guinnessaddick said:I tweeted this to FSA Faircop and this was their reply.
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I wasnt there so I know jack all about what happened but as we are talking about the policing of football I'll chime in
I get it that football can bring out some stupid behaviour in people, some of which I have been involved in and some I have witnessed, some like @Gumbo putting his penis on my shoulder at Coventry away then tapping me to get my attention so I was 'eye to eye' with him, I have been the victim of.
What gets me is how aggressive police can be in the first contact, it pisses people off immediately and invariably makes their lives more difficult. They have a hair trigger at football and have nicked people for some really trivial stuff that could have been avoided with a bit of emotional intelligence. Then again when they see 100 blokes coming off a train pissed and singing it can be fairly intimidating so it can provoke a nervous response.
last season at Gillingham they started off being ok with everyone then a few people wound them up and ruined it for everyone as annoyed police are not fun people.
What fucks me off though is then taking such a broad brush approach like what people have mentioned about marylebone and they know they can because its football fans and they can pretty much get away with whatever they want.
I'm a supporter of the police, and if you think of the sheer volume of human interaction they have compared to the amount of actual beatings they give out its remarkable. If I was armed with a taser and a truncheon at the Notting hill carnival post 8pm after a day of everyone calling me a racist or just generally being obnoxious I'd guess I would flatten the taser battery quite fast4 -
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The COO is your man, responsible for customer satisfaction as well as the day to day running of the club in the absence of a CEO. Good luck with that.......😉AddickFC81 said:I am disappointed to here this.Mick Everitt needs to make an official complaint on our behalf in the strongest possible way.Isn't Micks Everitt the man who deals with Police?But anyways, what I mean is why did the OB have to take the name, address of all our supporters at Marylebone?That is not right and that is what Mick Everitt needs to find out, that very reason.0 -
CAST are going to raise this with CAFC's police contact and ask for further explanation. If you have specific info / experiences to pass on, please email chair@castrust.org or contact CAST directly on Twitter.8
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You make it seem like having my penis on your shoulder was a bad thing??? Didn’t hear you complaining at the time mateCarter said:I wasnt there so I know jack all about what happened but as we are talking about the policing of football I'll chime in
I get it that football can bring out some stupid behaviour in people, some of which I have been involved in and some I have witnessed, some like @Gumbo putting his penis on my shoulder at Coventry away then tapping me to get my attention so I was 'eye to eye' with him, I have been the victim of.
What gets me is how aggressive police can be in the first contact, it pisses people off immediately and invariably makes their lives more difficult. They have a hair trigger at football and have nicked people for some really trivial stuff that could have been avoided with a bit of emotional intelligence. Then again when they see 100 blokes coming off a train pissed and singing it can be fairly intimidating so it can provoke a nervous response.
last season at Gillingham they started off being ok with everyone then a few people wound them up and ruined it for everyone as annoyed police are not fun people.
What fucks me off though is then taking such a broad brush approach like what people have mentioned about marylebone and they know they can because its football fans and they can pretty much get away with whatever they want.
I'm a supporter of the police, and if you think of the sheer volume of human interaction they have compared to the amount of actual beatings they give out its remarkable. If I was armed with a taser and a truncheon at the Notting hill carnival post 8pm after a day of everyone calling me a racist or just generally being obnoxious I'd guess I would flatten the taser battery quite fast10 -
Completely speculating but sounds like old bill had agg from some Charlton dicks and reacted childishly by fucking up a lot of Charlton fans with their re routing of so many innocents13
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As far as I’m aware he is part time now ie: Match days.AddickFC81 said:T_C_E said:
The COO is your man, responsible for customer satisfaction as well as the day to day running of the club in the absence of a CEO. Good luck with that.......😉AddickFC81 said:I am disappointed to here this.Mick Everitt needs to make an official complaint on our behalf in the strongest possible way.Isn't Micks Everitt the man who deals with Police?But anyways, what I mean is why did the OB have to take the name, address of all our supporters at Marylebone?That is not right and that is what Mick Everitt needs to find out, that very reason.The COO is the man at the top of the operations, that’s not to say it won’t end up on Micks desk, as we are well aware the smt are very good at delegation when it goes tits up.0 -
In other words "we started it and they finished it".oohaahmortimer said:Completely speculating but sounds like old bill had agg from some Charlton dicks and reacted childishly by fucking up a lot of Charlton fans with their re routing of so many innocents
Contacting Charlton or the police will end a fruitless exercise.0 -
seems pointless asking for personal details as how can the police prove you have given the correct ones?4
