A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
Football fans having a sing song in a pub. Lock em up!
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
Football fans having a sing song in a pub. Lock em up!
I disagree, a quiet word in their ear was more appropriate. The pub was full of little kids, it wasn't appropriate, unless you condone trying to provoke a row, which may well have led to small children getting injured.
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
Football fans having a sing song in a pub. Lock em up!
If half a dozen p***** away fans came into The Royal Oak they may not stay there too long.
We were told at Snow Hill Charlton fans were not allowed off due to 'disorder in the city centre' and all Charlton fans were being taken to Moor Street or somewhere, the Met FLO was there so asked him and he shrugged and said 'I dont know anything mate' so @charltonnick my son and I got off with around a dozen others anyway and saw hardly anyone anywhere, the town centre seemed dead. All quite strange.
We got to Snow Hill fairly quickly and were let off the train no problems, although a lot of old bill there. Nothing going on walking to New Street. Once in the station there was a small group, 12ish possibly Luton,singing a bit, being escorted by about 30 plod. It wasn't intimidating one bit, but maybe something had happened beforehand.
Had the same issue after getting the train from the stadium, needed to get off at new street as car was parked near there, police told us we had to take the train which we explained we couldn't as we are driving
Friendly cop then told us we would be allowed off at the next station, and that it was due to safety control that we couldn't use snow hill
Not read it but told that on Facebook it's being said that 80 high risk took a train up and were section 60'ed in Birmingham town centre.
There were quite a lot of what are probably classed as 'high risk' men, not youngsters, at the ground so they may have made it to the ground, fair play to them, didn't see a problem
My sister's fella is a wolves supporting copper and was with me in the away end yesterday. He was saying that WMP are one of the most over resourced forces on football days, leading to tactics like this being deployed frequently. They even had dogs out the back of the away walk way yesterday - on what planet does Charlton v West Brom require dogs for crowd control?
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
Football fans having a sing song in a pub. Lock em up!
There was about 10 of us, it was advertised as an away pub, we left as it clearly wasn't - and had a little sing as we left. Friendly enough punters though, we spent about an hour in there.
We actually sat & had our lunch in The Vine, joining a table of a Dad & his 2 youngsters as spaces were in short supply.
Eldest grandson, when asked what he'd like to drink, joked he'd have a pint of shandy to which I quipped " Think that gentleman sitting next to you is a policeman..."
The Dad smiled and said " I am !"
I quickly asked his little girl if it was true & she confirmed it was ! Cue Fanny's red face.....
Anyway, he then said to our grandson " Go ahead, mate , if you want one ", which he did !
Dad, who's based in West Brom, daughter & 9yr old son in his first season as a season ticket holder were smashing & we spent over an hour chatting & exchanging football experiences. I even bought him a pint.....and was given a hug & kiss when we left ( what's new ?)
He'd predicted that if the Baggies scored first, they'd win but wasn't too confident in general considering their match at home to Barnsley last Tuesday.
My sister's fella is a wolves supporting copper and was with me in the away end yesterday. He was saying that WMP are one of the most over resourced forces on football days, leading to tactics like this being deployed frequently. They even had dogs out the back of the away walk way yesterday - on what planet does Charlton v West Brom require dogs for crowd control?
We actually sat & had our lunch in The Vine, joining a table of a Dad & his 2 youngsters as spaces were in short supply.
Eldest grandson, when asked what he'd like to drink, joked he'd have a pint of shandy to which I quipped " Think that gentleman sitting next to you is a policeman..."
The Dad smiled and said " I am !"
I quickly asked his little girl if it was true & she confirmed it was ! Cue Fanny's red face.....
Anyway, he then said to our grandson " Go ahead, mate , if you want one ", which he did !
Dad, who's based in West Brom, daughter & 9yr old son in his first season as a season ticket holder were smashing & we spent over an hour chatting & exchanging football experiences. I even bought him a pint.....and was given a hug & kiss when we left ( what's new ?)
He'd predicted that if the Baggies scored first, they'd win but wasn't too confident in general considering their match at home to Barnsley last Tuesday.
Take a look at the law on under age drinking, if your grandson is 16 or over it’s legal to buy him alcohol as long as it’s with a table meal.
It got a mention Charlton Live earlier tonight and one of Louis's studio guests questioned if what the OB did at Marylebone was actually legal. That is taking names and addresses of people just like that.
It’s quite nice when people actually witness this kind of police behaviour personally, as I’m sure plenty live in a bubble sometimes and on hearing of this police response elsewhere would probably assume the fans must have deserved it.
Fans of many clubs deal with these kind of tactics on a regular occurrence. Because our support has gone up an edge recently our ‘normal’ fans are now witnessing this regular police behaviour and it’s not pretty is it.
Im sure BBW and Millwall fan would have a wry smile at some of the responses here. They’ve probably dealt with this for years and know just how far having a moan about it gets you.
We actually sat & had our lunch in The Vine, joining a table of a Dad & his 2 youngsters as spaces were in short supply.
Eldest grandson, when asked what he'd like to drink, joked he'd have a pint of shandy to which I quipped " Think that gentleman sitting next to you is a policeman..."
The Dad smiled and said " I am !"
I quickly asked his little girl if it was true & she confirmed it was ! Cue Fanny's red face.....
Anyway, he then said to our grandson " Go ahead, mate , if you want one ", which he did !
Dad, who's based in West Brom, daughter & 9yr old son in his first season as a season ticket holder were smashing & we spent over an hour chatting & exchanging football experiences. I even bought him a pint.....and was given a hug & kiss when we left ( what's new ?)
He'd predicted that if the Baggies scored first, they'd win but wasn't too confident in general considering their match at home to Barnsley last Tuesday.
Take a look at the law on under age drinking, if your grandson is 16 or over it’s legal to buy him alcohol as long as it’s with a table meal.
I remember going to Brentford vs Northampton about 30 years ago. Apparently the shit PA system announced that Bees fans should stay in their seats until Northampton fans had left. We were kettled in the ground, horseback plod refusing to let people out while other fans were pushing from behind. Hillsborough situation.
Eventually let go, spent hour and a half waiting to see officer in charge, who apologised and said it wouldn't happen again. Funnily enough met him years later through my Addick companion and he is now a decent mate. Passed me yesterday as I was crossing the road and he yelled "hooligan, get out of the way".
got off at snow hill as was in a reasonably quiet carriagepolice didnt really say anythging, saw a few others who recognised us as charlton trying to get off and then the police got quite rough with them, at ht i didnt see what went on i went out for a cigarette and had a police officer waving a batton around threatening to hit people.
it does seems like this police force has a thing for this sort of behaviour good friday coventry away couple of years back they made everyone get cabs back to the city centre then on a train to rugby then onto london.
A cop at Snow Hill station said there had been trouble in a bar in West Brom with Charlton fans and two old bill had been assaulted and that was the reason they refused to let Charlton fans off the train, even tho they let me and my missus off.
We were in The Vine pub near the ground, which I would describe as family friendly, a mixture of both sets of fans, but majority WBA, all very friendly.
Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up. A little while later they started singing again as they departed. Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
Football fans having a sing song in a pub. Lock em up!
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Approx 6 Charlton fans came in who I didn't recognize and started singing, which was inappropriate under the circumstances.
Stewards and police had a word and they shut up.
A little while later they started singing again as they departed.
Perhaps, it was something to do with them on the way out/outside ?
(Having now read the rest of the thread it seems more likely it wasn't).
The pub was full of little kids, it wasn't appropriate, unless you condone trying to provoke a row, which may well have led to small children getting injured.
Friendly cop then told us we would be allowed off at the next station, and that it was due to safety control that we couldn't use snow hill
Encountered no issues at moor street
Eldest grandson, when asked what he'd like to drink, joked he'd have a pint of shandy to which I quipped " Think that gentleman sitting next to you is a policeman..."
The Dad smiled and said " I am !"
I quickly asked his little girl if it was true & she confirmed it was ! Cue Fanny's red face.....
Anyway, he then said to our grandson " Go ahead, mate , if you want one ", which he did !
Dad, who's based in West Brom, daughter & 9yr old son in his first season as a season ticket holder were smashing & we spent over an hour chatting & exchanging football experiences. I even bought him a pint.....and was given a hug & kiss when we left ( what's new ?)
He'd predicted that if the Baggies scored first, they'd win but wasn't too confident in general considering their match at home to Barnsley last Tuesday.
https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol-facts/alcohol-and-the-law/the-law-on-alcohol-and-under-18s/
Fans of many clubs deal with these kind of tactics on a regular occurrence. Because our support has gone up an edge recently our ‘normal’ fans are now witnessing this regular police behaviour and it’s not pretty is it.
Im sure BBW and Millwall fan would have a wry smile at some of the responses here. They’ve probably dealt with this for years and know just how far having a moan about it gets you.
Eventually let go, spent hour and a half waiting to see officer in charge, who apologised and said it wouldn't happen again. Funnily enough met him years later through my Addick companion and he is now a decent mate. Passed me yesterday as I was crossing the road and he yelled "hooligan, get out of the way".
it does seems like this police force has a thing for this sort of behaviour good friday coventry away couple of years back they made everyone get cabs back to the city centre then on a train to rugby then onto london.