Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.
January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
Comments
-
A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..1
-
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..1 -
No they are not.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..
Teams usually weight the deal that the more appearances the player makes, the less you pay them.
Loans are more likely to play than be a sub, although in this case I can see Docherty being a sub more than playing.1 -
No @Covered End ... He was complaining the bloke is only a sub at Rangers. If he wasn't a sub he wouldn't be getting loaned out.Covered End said:
No they are not.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..
Teams usually weight the deal that the more appearances the player makes, the less you pay them.
Loans are more likely to play than be a sub, although in this case I can see Docherty being a sub more than playing.3 -
Yeah, I mean I’d take a sub Chelsea (Gallagher), West Ham (Cullen). But not teams that are not a lot better than us.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..0 -
Scottish football is rubbish but I think Rangers are decent.BR7_addick said:
Yeah, I mean I’d take a sub Chelsea (Gallagher), West Ham (Cullen). But not teams that are not a lot better than us.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..0 -
He must be off to the Bees thenBraziliance said:
I haven't seen Dmac say anywhere it was a good offer, not saying that isn't true just haven't seen it myself. All I read was Maddison was buzzing and London isn't an issue, Nixon before did say we offered poor wages, this was recently and in the past, also suggested that Bowyer needs to see if the owners have money basically. That's why I thought it was relevant to point out what Nixon had saidChris_from_Sidcup said:
Both Peterborough's owner and manager have already said our offer to Maddison was fairly decent.Braziliance said:In the article it says it's Palmer, just going by that.
First time Nixon has said we have offered a 'fair' wage, normally says we are cheapos1 -
I think Trautman had a broken neck?golfaddick said:Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/the-reason-chris-solly-missed-preston-game-as-charlton-boss-hopes-three-injured-players-back-for-fulham/
"Bowyer is hoping to have Cullen, Lyle Taylor and Sam Field available for the derby against Fulham."Jesus wept.....are our players made of glass or what !!! Cullen got a ball on his toe & jarred his knee....wtf ?? Bert Trautman played the Cup final with a fucking broken arm.
With regard to any new signings...........doesn't really matter that much now. Have to be signed by midday tomorrow to be able on play on Wednesday so might as well forget any signings until Friday week as in case the club have forgotten WE DONT HAVE ANYMORE GAMES UNTIL AFTER THE WINDOW HAS SHUT.
3 -
I’d argue the top two are slightly better than us, squad players from slightly better than us are hardly going to make an impact, generally speaking.Chunes said:
Scottish football is rubbish but I think Rangers are decent.BR7_addick said:
Yeah, I mean I’d take a sub Chelsea (Gallagher), West Ham (Cullen). But not teams that are not a lot better than us.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..0 -
A friend of mine at work is a Shrewsbury Town season ticket holder, he says Docherty is technically a very good player but you must play to his strengths, he was just in a poor team but was the standout player. I suppose, if we get him, it'll be time to comment on him after a game or two.0
-
Sponsored links:
-
@Redmidland - surely you have been on here long enough to know that the time to judge him is before we have even signed him and before he's even kicked a ball for us. C'mon, play the game.Redmidland said:A friend of mine at work is a Shrewsbury Town season ticket holder, he says Docherty is technically a very good player but you must play to his strengths, he was just in a poor team but was the standout player. I suppose, if we get him, it'll be time to comment on him after a game or two.
19 -
He did indeed Sound As 😉SoundAsa£ said:
I think Trautman had a broken neck?golfaddick said:Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/the-reason-chris-solly-missed-preston-game-as-charlton-boss-hopes-three-injured-players-back-for-fulham/
"Bowyer is hoping to have Cullen, Lyle Taylor and Sam Field available for the derby against Fulham."Jesus wept.....are our players made of glass or what !!! Cullen got a ball on his toe & jarred his knee....wtf ?? Bert Trautman played the Cup final with a fucking broken arm.
With regard to any new signings...........doesn't really matter that much now. Have to be signed by midday tomorrow to be able on play on Wednesday so might as well forget any signings until Friday week as in case the club have forgotten WE DONT HAVE ANYMORE GAMES UNTIL AFTER THE WINDOW HAS SHUT.
1 -
It makes sense to bring loan players in. Firstly, because perms will want to know the position with Bowyer and which division we will be playing in next year. Secondly, if they are not great and we get them in because we are desperate, we are not stuck with them. Now this Docherty may not be as good as our injured players or players coming back to fitness, but he sounds like a player we could do with now. And when better players come back, if they are better and don't get injured again, he can still do a job from the bench. This is the sort of thing we needed to be making happen 20 days ago!3
-
Where's the fun in that RM let's write him off now and be underwhelmed 😏.Redmidland said:A friend of mine at work is a Shrewsbury Town season ticket holder, he says Docherty is technically a very good player but you must play to his strengths, he was just in a poor team but was the standout player. I suppose, if we get him, it'll be time to comment on him after a game or two.1 -
The last Docherty we signed proved that Guinness and meat pies have no place in modern football.9
-
Remember that Fleck wasn’t deemed good enough for Rangers. After spells in League 1 and Championship, the lad can more than hold his own in the Premier League2
-
I thought he was much better than people gave him credit for. He was slow and some people couldn't see beyond that.0
-
And he was in the League One team of the year apparently. Scored a goal every five games from midfield.Chunes said:
I don't know how Shrewsbury finishing 18th is much of a reflection on a single player, though.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not convinced on this. A guy who played for a Shrewsbury side who finished 18th in league one and now can't even get in the Rangers side, is perhaps not the player we need ready and able to walk into a championship teams midfield.Scoham said:We’re now leading the race to sign Greg Docherty on loan from Sunderland.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/18173138.charlton-lead-race-sign-rangers-midfielder-greg-docherty-sunderland-switch-hits-snag/
No doubt a better option to have than the likes of Dempsey and Vennings but with players like Cullen, Field and Oztumer coming back, i don't see him adding much.0 -
That will do, get him in..........like now please ESI!JamesSeed said:
And he was in the League One team of the year apparently. Scored a goal every five games from midfield.Chunes said:
I don't know how Shrewsbury finishing 18th is much of a reflection on a single player, though.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Not convinced on this. A guy who played for a Shrewsbury side who finished 18th in league one and now can't even get in the Rangers side, is perhaps not the player we need ready and able to walk into a championship teams midfield.Scoham said:We’re now leading the race to sign Greg Docherty on loan from Sunderland.
https://www.glasgowtimes.co.uk/sport/18173138.charlton-lead-race-sign-rangers-midfielder-greg-docherty-sunderland-switch-hits-snag/
No doubt a better option to have than the likes of Dempsey and Vennings but with players like Cullen, Field and Oztumer coming back, i don't see him adding much.0 -
I really thought there'd be an announcement today. It's the hope that kills you.0
-
Sponsored links:
-
Agreed but as said, generally speaking.SennockianRed said:Remember that Fleck wasn’t deemed good enough for Rangers. After spells in League 1 and Championship, the lad can more than hold his own in the Premier League0 -
DOUCHER said:
Green bone taylor Davidson and hemed should be enough - taylor and green first choice - Lockyer is the only centre half good enough.MuttleyCAFC said:I think we can get away with two midfielders and one striker. Of the right quality of course.
As a ITK poster, you were one of the first to say about Gallagher and Swansea are you now saying that kermit the frog is signing ?
I heard he's good in the air.0 -
I hope i'm proven wrong on this if he does sign, but i just think that we should be aiming higher than Docherty. We need to stay in the championship and for me that means bringing in players who are good enough to play in a championship side immediately. If he can't get in the Rangers side, then is he really good enough?
Remember Bowyer was pretty damning about Aribo going there, player should be aiming higher, it's not a great league, poor standard, only 4-5 tough games a season etc etc................and now we're going after a player who can't even get in their side.
Also how match fit is he? He hasn't played a first team game since August.
3 -
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
15 -
Would like Docherty but only if it’s a loan to buy.
He was excellent last season in our division and he’s got potential to run a midfield in this league with a season or so of experience. But I don’t think he’s capable of that within the next six months.
Loaning him now with no prospect of reaping the rewards of his development wouldn’t excite me. Building a midfield around him and Cullen would.3 -
We're good value for the 1 out of 10 if the likes of Simon Francis are anything to go by!Braziliance said:9 times out of 10 if a player is the club's POTY they must have something about them, no matter what level imo3 -
Lyle Taylor had never played higher then the middle of League 1 when he signed for us, if Doherty is deemed good enough by Gallen and Bowyer, then I'll take their judgement over someone who's looking at a wikipedia profile of a player15
-
Sorry, I thought you meant the loanee club would tend to use the loaned players as subs. My apologies.Chunes said:
No @Covered End ... He was complaining the bloke is only a sub at Rangers. If he wasn't a sub he wouldn't be getting loaned out.Covered End said:
No they are not.Chunes said:
Loans are usually subsBR7_addick said:A throw away from Rangers is the same as a Bostock, the throw away from Forest. Admittedly knowing absolutely nothing about the lad, but come on, a sub from Scottish football..
Teams usually weight the deal that the more appearances the player makes, the less you pay them.
Loans are more likely to play than be a sub, although in this case I can see Docherty being a sub more than playing.2 -
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.Chunes said:I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.0
