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Cricket .. England in South Africa & Sri Lanka 2019/2020

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    lolwray said:
    As this has turned into the" is mark Nicholas a wanker or not thread" ..I'd just like to say I have met him albeit briefly and he's alright ish but not wanker proportions ..for an average county cricketer he has made a damn good career out of broadcasting/journalism .He does come across as a bit smug/pompous though.

    Just like to add I think KP has been a delight on sky..
    Nicholas may have been an "average county cricketer" but he had enough about him to captain Hampshire for about ten years until he retired and led them to a few trophies.
    And for him to have had the broadcasting career he's had, as a non international, suggests he's good at his job. 
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    Leuth said:
    Which one of you rubbished Sibley after one innings and said we needed to look elsewhere? Bet you're feeling stupid now 
    I certainly questioned his technique and long may his form continue. I was also someone who thought he should have been given a chance in front of some of the more "favoured" ones though.

    Sibley might just be a Graeme Smith who played everything through leg too. Sincerely hope he is but it will be interesting to see how he copes against a Starc bowling across him and a top spinner such as Lyon (just had match figures against NZ of 63.5-19-134-10) on a bunsen burner. It he has a weakness they will find it.

    The biggest thing that Sibley does have going for him is his level of concentration and he proved that from the very start of his professional career when he scored that double hundred against Yorkshire for Surrey at the age of 18. That will take him a long way and is something that someone like Joe Denly could learn from specifically in relation to shot selection when you think you're "in".
    There's a bloke called, now what's his name, oh yes Steve Smith.
    He heavily favours the on side and hasn't done too badly.
    Steve Smith has been caught recently several times recently in the leg slip trap but can, comfortably, play on both sides of the wicket. He might "favour" the leg side but has the natural and self made talent to play 360 degrees albeit at times in a somewhat unorthodox fashion.

    Sibley playing an off drive resembles someone who has been coached how to play it the day before and is attempting to play the shot for the first time - it lacks fluency but that is a legacy of him holding the bottom hand too tight and having a closed face simply because his main scoring shot and game plan is built around hitting the over pitched ball through mid wicket. He ends up having to play the cover drive in a jerky and chopping "in to out" motion and consequently loses the timing that stroking the ball with the full face of the bat would afford him. He also has a tendency to get his head outside the line of the ball when playing on the off side which causes him to "fall over".

    That said, there are plenty of players who have scored a stack load of runs who don't have natural flair and that is because they know their game i.e. they recognise their strengths and won't try to play a shot to a ball they aren't comfortable doing. They also possess that stubborn resistance and desire to occupy the crease come what may. Cook became one of our finest accumulator of runs doing just that whereas one can't help thinking that an aesthetically pleasing Ramprakash over complicated and over thought things due to his nerves and self doubt when it came to stepping up to the international arena.

    Sometimes, especially in Test cricket, less really is more and Sibley's limitations are also probably the reason that he has only played 22 List A matches as opposed to 70 First Class games - but that makes him ripe for the red ball only squad I mentioned previously as the way forward (with the possible odd exception of the likes of Stokes, Archer and Curran who should be playing both).

    Time will tell whether Sibley will be a Test success but one thing that is for sure is that he deserves the chance to prove himself. Garry Ballance scored a shed load of runs before the likes of the Aussies and New Zealand bowlers worked him out. I just hope that Sibley doesn't go the same way.






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    4 down, Bess gets the crucial wicket of Faf just before the new ball. And Joe "bucket hands" Denly takes the catch!
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    Leuth said:
    Which one of you rubbished Sibley after one innings and said we needed to look elsewhere? Bet you're feeling stupid now 
    I certainly questioned his technique and long may his form continue. I was also someone who thought he should have been given a chance in front of some of the more "favoured" ones though.

    Sibley might just be a Graeme Smith who played everything through leg too. Sincerely hope he is but it will be interesting to see how he copes against a Starc bowling across him and a top spinner such as Lyon (just had match figures against NZ of 63.5-19-134-10) on a bunsen burner. It he has a weakness they will find it.

    The biggest thing that Sibley does have going for him is his level of concentration and he proved that from the very start of his professional career when he scored that double hundred against Yorkshire for Surrey at the age of 18. That will take him a long way and is something that someone like Joe Denly could learn from specifically in relation to shot selection when you think you're "in".
    There's a bloke called, now what's his name, oh yes Steve Smith.
    He heavily favours the on side and hasn't done too badly.
    Steve Smith has been caught recently several times recently in the leg slip trap but can, comfortably, play on both sides of the wicket. He might "favour" the leg side but has the natural and self made talent to play 360 degrees albeit at times in a somewhat unorthodox fashion.

    Sibley playing an off drive resembles someone who has been coached how to play it the day before and is attempting to play the shot for the first time - it lacks fluency but that is a legacy of him holding the bottom hand too tight and having a closed face simply because his main scoring shot and game plan is built around hitting the over pitched ball through mid wicket. He ends up having to play the cover drive in a jerky and chopping "in to out" motion and consequently loses the timing that stroking the ball with the full face of the bat would afford him. He also has a tendency to get his head outside the line of the ball when playing on the off side which causes him to "fall over".

    That said, there are plenty of players who have scored a stack load of runs who don't have natural flair and that is because they know their game i.e. they recognise their strengths and won't try to play a shot to a ball they aren't comfortable doing. They also possess that stubborn resistance and desire to occupy the crease come what may. Cook became one of our finest accumulator of runs doing just that whereas one can't help thinking that an aesthetically pleasing Ramprakash over complicated and over thought things due to his nerves and self doubt when it came to stepping up to the international arena.

    Sometimes, especially in Test cricket, less really is more and Sibley's limitations are also probably the reason that he has only played 22 List A matches as opposed to 70 First Class games - but that makes him ripe for the red ball only squad I mentioned previously as the way forward (with the possible odd exception of the likes of Stokes, Archer and Curran who should be playing both).

    Time will tell whether Sibley will be a Test success but one thing that is for sure is that he deserves the chance to prove himself. Garry Ballance scored a shed load of runs before the likes of the Aussies and New Zealand bowlers worked him out. I just hope that Sibley doesn't go the same way.






    Sibley's doing ok.  He's top of the 2020 batting averages, with an average of 167.00..!
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    Curran to bowl with the new ball?  That's a brave decision. 
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    Chizz said:
    Curran to bowl with the new ball?  That's a brave decision. 
    He's best with the new ball though, not really an old ball bowler. Also there's a crack at one end which is apparently the best end for Jimmy and Broad
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    Chizz said:
    Curran to bowl with the new ball?  That's a brave decision. 
    He's best with the new ball though, not really an old ball bowler. Also there's a crack at one end which is apparently the best end for Jimmy and Broad
    Is he a better new ball bowler than Stuart Broad though?  I don't think so. 
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    Curran gets Malan out!
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    Chizz said:
    Leuth said:
    Which one of you rubbished Sibley after one innings and said we needed to look elsewhere? Bet you're feeling stupid now 
    I certainly questioned his technique and long may his form continue. I was also someone who thought he should have been given a chance in front of some of the more "favoured" ones though.

    Sibley might just be a Graeme Smith who played everything through leg too. Sincerely hope he is but it will be interesting to see how he copes against a Starc bowling across him and a top spinner such as Lyon (just had match figures against NZ of 63.5-19-134-10) on a bunsen burner. It he has a weakness they will find it.

    The biggest thing that Sibley does have going for him is his level of concentration and he proved that from the very start of his professional career when he scored that double hundred against Yorkshire for Surrey at the age of 18. That will take him a long way and is something that someone like Joe Denly could learn from specifically in relation to shot selection when you think you're "in".
    There's a bloke called, now what's his name, oh yes Steve Smith.
    He heavily favours the on side and hasn't done too badly.
    Steve Smith has been caught recently several times recently in the leg slip trap but can, comfortably, play on both sides of the wicket. He might "favour" the leg side but has the natural and self made talent to play 360 degrees albeit at times in a somewhat unorthodox fashion.

    Sibley playing an off drive resembles someone who has been coached how to play it the day before and is attempting to play the shot for the first time - it lacks fluency but that is a legacy of him holding the bottom hand too tight and having a closed face simply because his main scoring shot and game plan is built around hitting the over pitched ball through mid wicket. He ends up having to play the cover drive in a jerky and chopping "in to out" motion and consequently loses the timing that stroking the ball with the full face of the bat would afford him. He also has a tendency to get his head outside the line of the ball when playing on the off side which causes him to "fall over".

    That said, there are plenty of players who have scored a stack load of runs who don't have natural flair and that is because they know their game i.e. they recognise their strengths and won't try to play a shot to a ball they aren't comfortable doing. They also possess that stubborn resistance and desire to occupy the crease come what may. Cook became one of our finest accumulator of runs doing just that whereas one can't help thinking that an aesthetically pleasing Ramprakash over complicated and over thought things due to his nerves and self doubt when it came to stepping up to the international arena.

    Sometimes, especially in Test cricket, less really is more and Sibley's limitations are also probably the reason that he has only played 22 List A matches as opposed to 70 First Class games - but that makes him ripe for the red ball only squad I mentioned previously as the way forward (with the possible odd exception of the likes of Stokes, Archer and Curran who should be playing both).

    Time will tell whether Sibley will be a Test success but one thing that is for sure is that he deserves the chance to prove himself. Garry Ballance scored a shed load of runs before the likes of the Aussies and New Zealand bowlers worked him out. I just hope that Sibley doesn't go the same way.






    Sibley's doing ok.  He's top of the 2020 batting averages, with an average of 167.00..!
    And Ballance scored over 500 runs in one series against India and look what happened to him!
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    Foakes would have taken that stumping off denly.
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    Foakes would have taken that stumping off denly.
    The ball did keep low out of the foot holes but, there again, Buttler should expect that and come up with the ball which he didn't.
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    We are crying out for a 95 mph bowler and top class spinner on this track. The former missed the game through injury and we don't currently have the latter.
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    We are crying out for a 95 mph bowler and top class spinner on this track. The former missed the game through injury and we don't currently have the latter.
    And Jimmy clearly has a problem, whether a niggle or illness
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    31 overs to get 5 wickets
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    edited January 2020
    We are crying out for a 95 mph bowler and top class spinner on this track. The former missed the game through injury and we don't currently have the latter.
    And Jimmy clearly has a problem, whether a niggle or illness
    Got a minor side strain...but is bowling anyway
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    We are crying out for a 95 mph bowler and top class spinner on this track. The former missed the game through injury and we don't currently have the latter.
    And Jimmy clearly has a problem, whether a niggle or illness
    Got a minor side strain...but is bowling anyway
    Minor side strains have a tendency to become big ones. He doesn't look at all happy and the management have probably told him that he has to bowl in this one if he can and can miss out on the next
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    De Koch just can't resist can he!
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    That’s one of the dumbest shots I’ve ever seen.
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    Denly has looked far more dangerous than Bess tbf.
    Well deserved wicket 
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    edited January 2020
    De Koch caught Crawley bowled Denly 

    Who would have said that at Kent a year ago?
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    I love watching Kent.
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    Oh dear - hope that wasted review doesn't some back to haunt us!
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    What a ridiculous waste of our last review 
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    Laddick01 said:
    That’s one of the dumbest shots I’ve ever seen.
    Nobody will ever, ever beat Shannon Gabriel
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    edited January 2020
    They should've gone to Specsavers.
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    Laddick01 said:
    That’s one of the dumbest shots I’ve ever seen.
    It looked a cracking shot from where I'm sitting!
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    Another one bites the dust!

    van der Dussen guides one from Broad to Jimmy at leg gully.

    237-7 ... 20 overs left to get three wickets
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    edited January 2020
    Superb from Root. 

    May be the first time that has ever been said about Joe as a captain.
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    Two unexpected ways of getting wickets, but it shows how things can quickly change 
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