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Is the season going to finish? (ed. Pg.53 - 3 players not returned to training)
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Maybe, but a player may have decided to train even though he has told Bows he does not want to risk playing at this moment in time, but is going to see how the testing goes and may reconsider at a later point.paulie8290 said:Page
Taylor
Williams
Hemed
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Can someone get Lacazette to tell him to be a hero or something0
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I get that, but the point is 3 players haven't returned to training, thats who we are trying to figure outRedrobo said:
Maybe, but a player may have decided to train even though he has told Bows he does not want to risk playing at this moment in time, but is going to see how the testing goes and may reconsider at a later point.paulie8290 said:Page
Taylor
Williams
Hemed
Have all been in training so they can be removed
We know 1 is Davies and according to sage, Bowyer has now said the other 2 are out of contract players0 -
Have crossed out the others who have been pictured on instagram.paulie8290 said:Using a list I found on here and removing loans lets see if we can work it out discounting who we have seen
Goalkeepers
Ben Amos 2020 plus 1 year optionRight Backs Chris Solly 2020
Adam Matthews 2020Centre Backs
Naby Sarr 2020Left Backs Lewis Page 2020 Central Midfielders
Jake Forster-Caskey 2020Albie Morgan contract length not known Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Jonny Williams 2020 plus 1 year option
Alfie Doughty - contract length not knownStrikers Lyle Taylor 2020 Tomer Hemed 2020
Josh Davison - 2020
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Amos and sarr I think for some reason, or Matthew's0
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I reckon Sarr and Matthews0
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We've paid Sarr enough money over 5 years for him to retire. If his sole reason for not coming back is purely around not risking injury with an expiring contract that disapoints me. Others who's contracts are expiring and would have been on far less seem to be coming back.7
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Alfie, Morgan, and JFC are all in training. Think JFC posted something the other day on his insta saying it's good to be back.paulie8290 said:Using a list I found on here and removing loans lets see if we can work it out discounting who we have seen
Goalkeepers
Ben Amos 2020 plus 1 year optionRight Backs Chris Solly 2020
Adam Matthews 2020Centre Backs
Naby Sarr 2020Left Backs Lewis Page 2020 Central Midfielders
Jake Forster-Caskey 2020Albie Morgan contract length not known Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Jonny Williams 2020 plus 1 year option
Alfie Doughty - contract length not knownStrikers Lyle Taylor 2020 Tomer Hemed 2020
Josh Davison - 2020
Albie is out of contract at the end of the year I believe, which is very concerning for me. But then again, most players are out of contract at the end of the year and they're all a worry.
Also, you could scrub laundry on Hemed's stomach. The man is a specimen.
Haven't seen: Sarr, Davidson, Amos, Matthews, Solly.
We really need Naby and Matthews back. Keep in mind this was just the preliminary week. It's very possible more players will trickle in IF it's shown that this is safe.1 -
Not necessarily. Because Championship clubs have access to testing twice a week, once results come back, you should know who in the squad has it and who doesn't. @Sage says it's about a 1-2 day turnaround on testing results. That part is concerning for when it comes to contact training, because it means that it could spread within a squad in those two days.raytreacy69 said:So with the new test and trace -if one player is possitive with symptoms then surely all his team mates any opposing players will have to self isolate for 14 days or am I missing something?
But, given the frequency of the testing, you should at least be able to catch it, or "Trace it," pretty quickly.
Now, imagine if the entire country had access to that level of testing akin to South Korea (it wouldn't be necessary for everyone, but you get my point).
Once contact training starts I expect the numbers will go up. The problem is, players get it from just doing their grocery shopping. The virus hasn't been eliminated in the country. So I think they're probably going to need to put strict self-quarantine in effect for players for the next month or two. Basically, training ground, home, and matches. Same for staff. You could still get it from a teammate/colleague or family member, but it would reduce exposure.
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It wouldn't be a problem if the players didnt go home on between training. It was mooted on here a month or so ago that it should be treated like a World Cup. All players stay together in a hotel & it wouldnt matter do much. The Preston player said that he felt fine & was amazed that he tested positive. Fit men under the age of 35 seem to been immune to the symptoms. Very very few people under the age of 40 who have no underlying health problems have been ill from Covid-19.SDAddick said:
Not necessarily. Because Championship clubs have access to testing twice a week, once results come back, you should know who in the squad has it and who doesn't. @Sage says it's about a 1-2 day turnaround on testing results. That part is concerning for when it comes to contact training, because it means that it could spread within a squad in those two days.raytreacy69 said:So with the new test and trace -if one player is possitive with symptoms then surely all his team mates any opposing players will have to self isolate for 14 days or am I missing something?
But, given the frequency of the testing, you should at least be able to catch it, or "Trace it," pretty quickly.
Now, imagine if the entire country had access to that level of testing akin to South Korea (it wouldn't be necessary for everyone, but you get my point).
Once contact training starts I expect the numbers will go up. The problem is, players get it from just doing their grocery shopping. The virus hasn't been eliminated in the country. So I think they're probably going to need to put strict self-quarantine in effect for players for the next month or two. Basically, training ground, home, and matches. Same for staff. You could still get it from a teammate/colleague or family member, but it would reduce exposure.1 - Sponsored links:
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LOL. You gonna pay for the hotel Golfie?0
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Id be surprised if Solly is reluctant, he's part of the furniture at Charlton - Amos would be another surprise as he does have the option of an extension so does have a bit of securitySDAddick said:
Alfie, Morgan, and JFC are all in training. Think JFC posted something the other day on his insta saying it's good to be back.paulie8290 said:Using a list I found on here and removing loans lets see if we can work it out discounting who we have seen
Goalkeepers
Ben Amos 2020 plus 1 year optionRight Backs Chris Solly 2020
Adam Matthews 2020Centre Backs
Naby Sarr 2020Left Backs Lewis Page 2020 Central Midfielders
Jake Forster-Caskey 2020Albie Morgan contract length not known Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Jonny Williams 2020 plus 1 year option
Alfie Doughty - contract length not knownStrikers Lyle Taylor 2020 Tomer Hemed 2020
Josh Davison - 2020
Albie is out of contract at the end of the year I believe, which is very concerning for me. But then again, most players are out of contract at the end of the year and they're all a worry.
Also, you could scrub laundry on Hemed's stomach. The man is a specimen.
Haven't seen: Sarr, Davidson, Amos, Matthews, Solly.
We really need Naby and Matthews back. Keep in mind this was just the preliminary week. It's very possible more players will trickle in IF it's shown that this is safe.
Both Amos and Matthews have had injury troubles this season so wont be surprised if it is them that are reluctant to play without a safety net1 -
Not allowed near the training ground so no idea.Richard J said:
Is Matthews back?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
Pretty sure Amos would be back in training, 3 goalkeepers have been training, so unless the other two are young leaving only Phillips, I would be surprised.
I am also unsure whether Morgan and Doughty are out of contract this summer. Something tells me both have a deal until 2021. Both though are 100% in training.0 -
Based on that and with the ones already crossed of the list, it looks like its 2 fromSage said:
Not allowed near the training ground so no idea.Richard J said:
Is Matthews back?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
Pretty sure Amos would be back in training, 3 goalkeepers have been training, so unless the other two are young leaving only Phillips, I would be surprised.
I am also unsure whether Morgan and Doughty are out of contract this summer. Something tells me both have a deal until 2021. Both though are 100% in training.
Sarr
Matthews
Solly
Who are with Davies in not not training
Cant see it being Solly1 -
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Piss poor attitude if you ask me. These two are being paid to do f all at the moment and expect to be paid more despite being under contract to work. Surely, they are in breach of contract?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
There seems little point in trying to get them to play with this attitude anyway. Just cancel what's left of their contracts.0 -
I'm confused would you be surprised about Amos or not?!ForeverAddickted said:
Id be surprised if Solly is reluctant, he's part of the furniture at Charlton - Amos would be another surprise as he does have the option of an extension so does have a bit of securitySDAddick said:
Alfie, Morgan, and JFC are all in training. Think JFC posted something the other day on his insta saying it's good to be back.paulie8290 said:Using a list I found on here and removing loans lets see if we can work it out discounting who we have seen
Goalkeepers
Ben Amos 2020 plus 1 year optionRight Backs Chris Solly 2020
Adam Matthews 2020Centre Backs
Naby Sarr 2020Left Backs Lewis Page 2020 Central Midfielders
Jake Forster-Caskey 2020Albie Morgan contract length not known Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Jonny Williams 2020 plus 1 year option
Alfie Doughty - contract length not knownStrikers Lyle Taylor 2020 Tomer Hemed 2020
Josh Davison - 2020
Albie is out of contract at the end of the year I believe, which is very concerning for me. But then again, most players are out of contract at the end of the year and they're all a worry.
Also, you could scrub laundry on Hemed's stomach. The man is a specimen.
Haven't seen: Sarr, Davidson, Amos, Matthews, Solly.
We really need Naby and Matthews back. Keep in mind this was just the preliminary week. It's very possible more players will trickle in IF it's shown that this is safe.
Both Amos and Matthews have had injury troubles this season so wont be surprised if it is them that are reluctant to play without a safety net3 -
I am the master at contradicting myself!!Talal said:
I'm confused would you be surprised about Amos or not?!ForeverAddickted said:
Id be surprised if Solly is reluctant, he's part of the furniture at Charlton - Amos would be another surprise as he does have the option of an extension so does have a bit of securitySDAddick said:
Alfie, Morgan, and JFC are all in training. Think JFC posted something the other day on his insta saying it's good to be back.paulie8290 said:Using a list I found on here and removing loans lets see if we can work it out discounting who we have seen
Goalkeepers
Ben Amos 2020 plus 1 year optionRight Backs Chris Solly 2020
Adam Matthews 2020Centre Backs
Naby Sarr 2020Left Backs Lewis Page 2020 Central Midfielders
Jake Forster-Caskey 2020Albie Morgan contract length not known Attacking Midfielders/Wingers
Jonny Williams 2020 plus 1 year option
Alfie Doughty - contract length not knownStrikers Lyle Taylor 2020 Tomer Hemed 2020
Josh Davison - 2020
Albie is out of contract at the end of the year I believe, which is very concerning for me. But then again, most players are out of contract at the end of the year and they're all a worry.
Also, you could scrub laundry on Hemed's stomach. The man is a specimen.
Haven't seen: Sarr, Davidson, Amos, Matthews, Solly.
We really need Naby and Matthews back. Keep in mind this was just the preliminary week. It's very possible more players will trickle in IF it's shown that this is safe.
Both Amos and Matthews have had injury troubles this season so wont be surprised if it is them that are reluctant to play without a safety net2 -
@Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton said:We've paid Sarr enough money over 5 years for him to retire. If his sole reason for not coming back is purely around not risking injury with an expiring contract that disapoints me. Others who's contracts are expiring and would have been on far less seem to be coming back.
How much have we paid him then?
how much taken home after tax ?
has he invested it wisely?
is it enough to support him for next 45 years?
Are you sure his wages in last 5 years are sufficient?1 -
....or Field.paulie8290 said:
Based on that and with the ones already crossed of the list, it looks like its 2 fromSage said:
Not allowed near the training ground so no idea.Richard J said:
Is Matthews back?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
Pretty sure Amos would be back in training, 3 goalkeepers have been training, so unless the other two are young leaving only Phillips, I would be surprised.
I am also unsure whether Morgan and Doughty are out of contract this summer. Something tells me both have a deal until 2021. Both though are 100% in training.
Sarr
Matthews
Solly
Who are with Davies in not not training
Cant see it being Solly1 - Sponsored links:
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If I can jump in and answer the last three;MrOneLung said:
has he invested it wisely?Athletico Charlton said:We've paid Sarr enough money over 5 years for him to retire. If his sole reason for not coming back is purely around not risking injury with an expiring contract that disapoints me. Others who's contracts are expiring and would have been on far less seem to be coming back.
is it enough to support him for next 45 years?
Are you sure his wages in last 5 years are sufficient?
- No, I believe he has taken advice from Golfie
- Definitely not - a minus return is worse than no return
- They should have been ......0 -
Field is a loan signingRedrobo said:
....or Field.paulie8290 said:
Based on that and with the ones already crossed of the list, it looks like its 2 fromSage said:
Not allowed near the training ground so no idea.Richard J said:
Is Matthews back?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
Pretty sure Amos would be back in training, 3 goalkeepers have been training, so unless the other two are young leaving only Phillips, I would be surprised.
I am also unsure whether Morgan and Doughty are out of contract this summer. Something tells me both have a deal until 2021. Both though are 100% in training.
Sarr
Matthews
Solly
Who are with Davies in not not training
Cant see it being Solly
If it was Field Bowyer would have just said that like he did with Davies.
The fact he has just said the other 2 are out of contract players in the summer tells you its not loan players, which is why I ruled them out1 -
And Bowyer said he is taking to WBA about Field.paulie8290 said:
Field is a loan signingRedrobo said:
....or Field.paulie8290 said:
Based on that and with the ones already crossed of the list, it looks like its 2 fromSage said:
Not allowed near the training ground so no idea.Richard J said:
Is Matthews back?Sage said:Out of the three who haven’t returned, one is Davis due to not wanting to come back to London, the other two Bowyer has said are out of contract in July and don’t want to risk being injured. So who are these other 2, one potentially being Sarr?
Pretty sure Amos would be back in training, 3 goalkeepers have been training, so unless the other two are young leaving only Phillips, I would be surprised.
I am also unsure whether Morgan and Doughty are out of contract this summer. Something tells me both have a deal until 2021. Both though are 100% in training.
Sarr
Matthews
Solly
Who are with Davies in not not training
Cant see it being Solly
If it was Field Bowyer would have just said that like he did with Davies.
The fact he has just said the other 2 are out of contract players in the summer tells you its not loan players, which is why I ruled them out
Fwiw I reckon its Matthews. Shame if it is because I thought he's been our best right back this season.2 -
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Amos is definitely training. My mate, who lives on sparrows Lane, sent me a picture of him and who I believe is Jake Forster-Caskey having a coffee on a bench outside a cafe.
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You're absolutely right, this is how it should have been done. Costs are prohibitive, as is players' desire to be away from family. But there was initially talk of doing this for baseball here (using Spring Training fields), it's the safest way to do the thing. The problem obviously being cost and logistics. But it would reduce a tremendous number of variables. You could set up no contact delivery of food and anything else players needed, etc.golfaddick said:
It wouldn't be a problem if the players didnt go home on between training. It was mooted on here a month or so ago that it should be treated like a World Cup. All players stay together in a hotel & it wouldnt matter do much. The Preston player said that he felt fine & was amazed that he tested positive. Fit men under the age of 35 seem to been immune to the symptoms. Very very few people under the age of 40 who have no underlying health problems have been ill from Covid-19.SDAddick said:
Not necessarily. Because Championship clubs have access to testing twice a week, once results come back, you should know who in the squad has it and who doesn't. @Sage says it's about a 1-2 day turnaround on testing results. That part is concerning for when it comes to contact training, because it means that it could spread within a squad in those two days.raytreacy69 said:So with the new test and trace -if one player is possitive with symptoms then surely all his team mates any opposing players will have to self isolate for 14 days or am I missing something?
But, given the frequency of the testing, you should at least be able to catch it, or "Trace it," pretty quickly.
Now, imagine if the entire country had access to that level of testing akin to South Korea (it wouldn't be necessary for everyone, but you get my point).
Once contact training starts I expect the numbers will go up. The problem is, players get it from just doing their grocery shopping. The virus hasn't been eliminated in the country. So I think they're probably going to need to put strict self-quarantine in effect for players for the next month or two. Basically, training ground, home, and matches. Same for staff. You could still get it from a teammate/colleague or family member, but it would reduce exposure.
But lets be honest, player safety isn't the biggest concern in all this, it's money.5 -
Presumably they'll be games Saturday /Tuesday until the season is complete?1
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Start 20th June, play off final 30th July.BigRedEvil said:Presumably they'll be games Saturday /Tuesday until the season is complete?
will have to be 2 games a week to keep that schedule0
