Wednesday into admin is the latest twitter rumour.
Reading are in a bit of trouble too.
When their financial figures were released in April it showed that they lost £40m last year and spent £225 for every £100 of income on player wages. That is absolutely crazy.
So i'd be amazed if they're not far off FFP sanctions either.
Interestingly, Sheff Weds and Wigan were the next two highest after Reading (after Norwich and Villa were promoted) both £168 for every £100 of income.
That's where I loose some sympathy for Wigan. The circumstances of how and when they went into admin is a scandal but I didn't hear their fans moaning they had players they couldn't afford when they started winning.
Agree with this, but there is some weird stuff in the Wigan scenario. But Sheffield Wednesdat cheated. For me, straight relegation, with a suspended double relegation to follow next time they try to buck the system. No sympathy whatever.
Wednesday into admin is the latest twitter rumour.
Reading are in a bit of trouble too.
When their financial figures were released in April it showed that they lost £40m last year and spent £225 for every £100 of income on player wages. That is absolutely crazy.
So i'd be amazed if they're not far off FFP sanctions either.
Interestingly, Sheff Weds and Wigan were the next two highest after Reading (after Norwich and Villa were promoted) both £168 for every £100 of income.
That's where I loose some sympathy for Wigan. The circumstances of how and when they went into admin is a scandal but I didn't hear their fans moaning they had players they couldn't afford when they started winning.
The Wigan situation has nothing to do with having players they couldn't afford so spending beyond their means leading to administration. What has happened there is a disgrace.
Wednesday into admin is the latest twitter rumour.
Reading are in a bit of trouble too.
When their financial figures were released in April it showed that they lost £40m last year and spent £225 for every £100 of income on player wages. That is absolutely crazy.
So i'd be amazed if they're not far off FFP sanctions either.
Interestingly, Sheff Weds and Wigan were the next two highest after Reading (after Norwich and Villa were promoted) both £168 for every £100 of income.
That's where I loose some sympathy for Wigan. The circumstances of how and when they went into admin is a scandal but I didn't hear their fans moaning they had players they couldn't afford when they started winning.
The Wigan situation has nothing to do with having players they couldn't afford so spending beyond their means leading to administration. What has happened there is a disgrace.
How is having a wage bill at 168% of your income nothing to do with having players you can't afford?
Who were they paying the wages to? The chairman's wife........
I think it's safe to assume at 5.15pm on a Friday that that the deafening silence from the Efl means they won't announce any points deduction for Wednesday this side of the season finishing. There will be cries and howls of anger but we all know the Efl don't give a fuck. Absolute shower of smelly stuff...
Wednesday into admin is the latest twitter rumour.
Reading are in a bit of trouble too.
When their financial figures were released in April it showed that they lost £40m last year and spent £225 for every £100 of income on player wages. That is absolutely crazy.
So i'd be amazed if they're not far off admin either.
Good God, that’s outrageous.
Not quite as outrageous as spending it all Luxury flats, Range Rovers, Interior designers and bitches....then complaining there's no money left to give to your mates!!
It is unfair on the fans though. Surely an update as to when a decision is likely should be possible. Sheffield Wednesday fans are not to blame but they have been sweating on this for a long time in terms of expecting a decision.
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
Yeah, I’d bet my bottom dollar too. But it’s possible. For example, I just put a bunch of convenient results in to get this final table:
I did say it’s unlikely, but I would understand if the EFL wanted to be 100% sure.
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
Depends if anyone else goes into admin in the next 10 days, this could be a right house of cards.
I believe they will wait until the end of the season to relegate Sheffield Weds as they would lose every game if announced now
Yes it would distort things if they play the kids for the rest of the season or just go through the motions, seeing that they still have to play QPR, Huddersfield, Fulham and Boro
I think the delay is down to the fact that the EFL is being stretched way beyond what it originally set out to do and represent the needs of its members. I think there is a high level of incompetence at the EFL, but I also think there is a high level of incompetence at most of its member clubs and the system is breaking.
Us, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield Weds and God knows who else is yet to come out the woodwork.
They don’t have the resources, the ability or the control to manage it anymore
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
Yeah, I’d bet my bottom dollar too. But it’s possible. For example, I just put a bunch of convenient results in to get this final table:
I did say it’s unlikely, but I would understand if the EFL wanted to be 100% sure.
Pleased to see that your random results got us up to 15th!
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
Yeah, I’d bet my bottom dollar too. But it’s possible. For example, I just put a bunch of convenient results in to get this final table:
I did say it’s unlikely, but I would understand if the EFL wanted to be 100% sure.
Pleased to see that your random results got us up to 15th!
And Millwall get only 1 more point in their last 4 matches
I think they will relegate them and that’s why they are waiting.
Why wait though? Can just order an automatic relegation right now to Wednesday and state only the bottom 2 will be relegated normally.
If the EFL plan to relegate them outright, the delay might be because it is a punishment applied to a team after the season ends and, although highly unlikely, in theory Wednesday could still sneak into the playoffs, so if the EFL announce that they are relegated, there is an outside chance that they then get promoted on the pitch, which means the EFL will have made a judgement on a Premier League team, which I would imagine they have no jurisdiction to do. As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
If they issue a points deduction, that applies to this season, so could’ve been announced anytime.
Just a thought.
They can only get 64 points which is currently sixth place. I would bet my house & everything I have to say that the teams currently in 6th 7th, 8th & 9th are going to get more more than that. I expect some are even playing against each other & therefore they cant all not get more than 64 points.
Yeah, I’d bet my bottom dollar too. But it’s possible. For example, I just put a bunch of convenient results in to get this final table:
I did say it’s unlikely, but I would understand if the EFL wanted to be 100% sure.
Pleased to see that your random results got us up to 15th!
And Millwall get only 1 more point in their last 4 matches
I think the delay is down to the fact that the EFL is being stretched way beyond what it originally set out to do and represent the needs of its members. I think there is a high level of incompetence at the EFL, but I also think there is a high level of incompetence at most of its member clubs and the system is breaking.
Us, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield Weds and God knows who else is yet to come out the woodwork.
They don’t have the resources, the ability or the control to manage it anymore
Got a good point there. They also seem so stretched that they’ve forgotten about Derby, who I thought were being punished at the same time as Birmingham and Wednesday.
I think the delay is down to the fact that the EFL is being stretched way beyond what it originally set out to do and represent the needs of its members. I think there is a high level of incompetence at the EFL, but I also think there is a high level of incompetence at most of its member clubs and the system is breaking.
Us, Bury, Bolton, Wigan, Sheffield Weds and God knows who else is yet to come out the woodwork.
They don’t have the resources, the ability or the control to manage it anymore
Got a good point there. They also seem so stretched that they’ve forgotten about Derby, who I thought were being punished at the same time as Birmingham and Wednesday.
I think Derby plus the clubs I’ve mentioned are just the tip of the iceberg.
The game is creaking from the amount of debt it’s taken on throughout the 92.
The moment of truth for me will be what sort of contracts players get in the summer that are on free transfers in the championship and below, and, whether or not clubs can survive without supporters. I believe that was the overriding factor in why leagues one and two went for PPG
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But Sheffield Wednesdat cheated. For me, straight relegation, with a suspended double relegation to follow next time they try to buck the system. No sympathy whatever.
Who were they paying the wages to? The chairman's wife........
Maybe the rumour of administration was part of their subtle negotiation skills.
As soon as Cardiff, Swansea, Derby or Preston are 100% out of Wednesday’s reach, they could announce it.
Just a thought.
For example, I just put a bunch of convenient results in to get this final table:
Jeez.
2 of those results could directly impact us
Derby have the same QC representing them that Wednesday had at their hearing.