Can we name who owns us and have they given the EFL what they require in the last 7 months
I'm worried that the EFL will find a way to dock us points because we can't find anyone since January who can prove source and sufficiency of funding. If we can't provide that going forward I'd say there is a chance they won't let us compete next season.
The 1st part can't happen, the second looks increasing likley.
Pardon my ignorance of the EFL rules (assuming they’re not made up as the season goes along - cos that’s what it feels like) but if we are not allowed to compete next season what happens to us? Do we drop out of the leagues completely and have to work our way back in or do we automatically drop to League Two? 😳
Even if Wednesday were deducted, I'd really fear for us next season in the championship with the owner situation, obviously being in the Championship will make the club more attractive to buyers but trying to get in players for the start of the season would be very difficult
More attractive to crooks i would also believe.
PV and AB have said League One doesn't affect them. They just need to know who owns CAFC from the EFL.
Good luck with that....and if they do watch out for the abuse of ungrateful CARD holders who wanted Roland out that led to this...and the revenge is not over yet. With Covid , who will by into football ?
Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference
They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
But as we saw with Macclesfield, they make up their points deduction penalties as they go along
Like your we are staying up bollocks you are wrong here. They are appealing the independent panel two points deduction as they feel it is not severe enough/
lol! Wondered how long it would take - Apologies for believing in my club and sticking by the players
Dont worry I'll take all the comments on the chin about not giving up on survival unlike everyone else who predicted relegation a long time ago
I was one of those who has dug you out. Your one of the most optimistic fans on here and it sometimes borders insanity.
However, you deserve no criticism for keeping the faith and backing Bows/players. So apologies for any little tiffs we had, you don’t deserve any shit for it.
No apology needed from anyone fella
Football is an emotional game and can get the better of us all
Wigan can't win their appeal and won't. It does genuinely sadden me to say that, but administration has a penalty everybody understands and it needs to remain so. I feel a brotherhood with them as we are both clubs fcuked up by cnuts.
Also read that they will be limited to a playing squad of 20 next season and have a 2 year transfer ban.
Assume that means banned from paying a fee though, as they'd have to be allowed loans and free transfers.
Is that 20 senior pros as that's the size of most L1 squads anyway?
Wigan can't win their appeal and won't. It does genuinely sadden me to say that, but administration has a penalty everybody understands and it needs to remain so. I feel a brotherhood with them as we are both clubs fcuked up by cnuts.
Also read that they will be limited to a playing squad of 20 next season and have a 2 year transfer ban.
Assume that means banned from paying a fee though, as they'd have to be allowed loans and free transfers.
Why is that? - Never known the two year transfer ban to be part of the Administration punishment?
Wigan can't win their appeal and won't. It does genuinely sadden me to say that, but administration has a penalty everybody understands and it needs to remain so. I feel a brotherhood with them as we are both clubs fcuked up by cnuts.
Also read that they will be limited to a playing squad of 20 next season and have a 2 year transfer ban.
Assume that means banned from paying a fee though, as they'd have to be allowed loans and free transfers.
Why is that? - Never known the two year transfer ban to be part of the Administration punishment?
Not sure, i was surprised by it too but it's what their administrator said.
2 year ban which remains even if they win the points appeal. Bizarre.
Wigan can't win their appeal and won't. It does genuinely sadden me to say that, but administration has a penalty everybody understands and it needs to remain so. I feel a brotherhood with them as we are both clubs fcuked up by cnuts.
Also read that they will be limited to a playing squad of 20 next season and have a 2 year transfer ban.
Assume that means banned from paying a fee though, as they'd have to be allowed loans and free transfers.
Why is that? - Never known the two year transfer ban to be part of the Administration punishment?
Not sure, i was surprised by it too but it's what their administrator said.
2 year ban which remains even if they win the points appeal. Bizarre.
Guess its a further rule that stops clubs from using it as an excuse just to wipe clear some debt
Wigan can't win their appeal and won't. It does genuinely sadden me to say that, but administration has a penalty everybody understands and it needs to remain so. I feel a brotherhood with them as we are both clubs fcuked up by cnuts.
Also read that they will be limited to a playing squad of 20 next season and have a 2 year transfer ban.
Assume that means banned from paying a fee though, as they'd have to be allowed loans and free transfers.
Why is that? - Never known the two year transfer ban to be part of the Administration punishment?
Not sure, i was surprised by it too but it's what their administrator said.
2 year ban which remains even if they win the points appeal. Bizarre.
Guess its a further rule that stops clubs from using it as an excuse just to wipe clear some debt
It's surely punishing a club twice for the same thing though.
I assume they'll be able to sign free transfers and loans though as otherwise they won't have a squad. Pretty sure it just means they can't sign players for a transfer fee, but not many clubs in league one pay fees for players these days anyway.
It's surely punishing a club twice for the same thing though.
I assume they'll be able to sign free transfers and loans though as otherwise they won't have a squad. Pretty sure it just means they can't sign players for a transfer fee, but not many clubs in league one pay fees for players these days anyway.
Not to mention the free transfer market is surely going to have plenty of gems in it this summer!!
It's surely punishing a club twice for the same thing though.
I assume they'll be able to sign free transfers and loans though as otherwise they won't have a squad. Pretty sure it just means they can't sign players for a transfer fee, but not many clubs in league one pay fees for players these days anyway.
But if you've gone into administration because you're "broke" it doesn't look very good if you immediately start splashing the cash as soon as you have your debts written off.
Imagine that you're a business that's just lost thousands of pounds because a football club has only settled up, at best, a few pence in the pound after going into administration. How would you feel if, a couple of months later, that same football club goes out and spends hundreds of thousands on a new player whilst you're struggling to survive?
Just can't see it being applied this season. Especially if they can appeal, it will just create a headache for the EFL, I think it will be next season that they will get the deduction
Can you imagine Wigan's deduction being rescinded and Barnsley being relegated instead after the euphoria of last night for them? Would be a fucking disgrace.
Just can't see it being applied this season. Especially if they can appeal, it will just create a headache for the EFL, I think it will be next season that they will get the deduction
Ok they stay in the Championship for now. If after their appeal they are still found guilty then it's a two division relegation and no further appeals.
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Did the Football League also sign off recording the sale in an earlier financial year than when the transaction took place?
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Did the Football League also sign off recording the sale in an earlier financial year than when the transaction took place?
Beat me to it. Any response to this from a Wednesday fan? Seems pretty cut and dry to me.
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
That is an extreme over simplification of events. It sounds like a criminal act to me (pushing a sale into a previous accounting year). But, not to worry the EFL are dragging their heels from last November, and will move the punishment into next season.
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Did the Football League also sign off recording the sale in an earlier financial year than when the transaction took place?
Do you know exactly when the transaction took place ?
If the club has had the sale, date, times, colour of paint on doors approved and an email confirming it what more can the club do?
Whilst I do not like our current owner one bit if he has provided everything that was asked and an email back rubber stamping it - and then the EFL has had another re think due to objections from outside parties then sorry the blame lies with the inept lot that talks about betting scandals with fans on the street.
Just checking but if we lose players to relegation release clauses and the EFL then apply a deduction to Wednesday - Do our departed players have to return?
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Your club is a disgrace to football. The valuation, back dating the sale, sponsorship from sham companies. Your club are cheats, and there is nothing lower than that in sport.
Every game you have played this season you have effectively cheated as without fiddling you would not have been able to buy and pay all those players. The “email” does not change anything. No doubt your club will continue to sponsor itself with false companies.
Your shirts are sponsored by a company set up by your owner and has less than £60. Another sham by your owner. Are your fans not ashamed to wear replicas?
The EFL are not fit for perpose, they signed it off, they even sent an email to the club that we could 'go ahead' with the transfer of the sale yet after a few objections from Barnsley and Middlesboro they started to have a 're-think'
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Did the Football League also sign off recording the sale in an earlier financial year than when the transaction took place?
Do you know exactly when the transaction took place ?
If the club has had the sale, date, times, colour of paint on doors approved and an email confirming it what more can the club do?
Whilst I do not like our current owner one bit if he has provided everything that was asked and an email back rubber stamping it - and then the EFL has had another re think due to objections from outside parties then sorry the blame lies with the inept lot that talks about betting scandals with fans on the street.
According to SWFC accounts it took place before the company that purchased it even existed.
Remind us, who provided the valuation for Hillsborough as well?
Have you seen this email that 'rubber stamped' the deal? Was it a formal approval of a sale of the stadium backdated to a previous years accounts from someone high up on EFL Governance? Or was it from Sid in accounts?
Comments
Football is an emotional game and can get the better of us all
2 year ban which remains even if they win the points appeal. Bizarre.
Also I don't think it's in the rules as part of a punishment so not sure why it's been applied
I assume they'll be able to sign free transfers and loans though as otherwise they won't have a squad. Pretty sure it just means they can't sign players for a transfer fee, but not many clubs in league one pay fees for players these days anyway.
Imagine that you're a business that's just lost thousands of pounds because a football club has only settled up, at best, a few pence in the pound after going into administration. How would you feel if, a couple of months later, that same football club goes out and spends hundreds of thousands on a new player whilst you're struggling to survive?
Ok they stay in the Championship for now. If after their appeal they are still found guilty then it's a two division relegation and no further appeals.
The Wigan fiasco shows what state the game is in, its a joke.
Comiserations on your relegation that must have been a bitter pill to swallow that and I'm sure you will be back soon.
Ifs and buts and all that but still
If the club has had the sale, date, times, colour of paint on doors approved and an email confirming it what more can the club do?
Whilst I do not like our current owner one bit if he has provided everything that was asked and an email back rubber stamping it - and then the EFL has had another re think due to objections from outside parties then sorry the blame lies with the inept lot that talks about betting scandals with fans on the street.
Every game you have played this season you have effectively cheated as without fiddling you would not have been able to buy and pay all those players. The “email” does not change anything. No doubt your club will continue to sponsor itself with false companies.
Remind us, who provided the valuation for Hillsborough as well?
Have you seen this email that 'rubber stamped' the deal? Was it a formal approval of a sale of the stadium backdated to a previous years accounts from someone high up on EFL Governance? Or was it from Sid in accounts?