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Barnsley threatening EFL ahead of Disciplinary action for Wednesday, Derby & Birmingham

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,168
    Have a horrible feeling that the EFL will say that due the complexities and time involved in both cases that any punishment will be effective from next season
    There would be a certain irony in the EFL making such a mess of this case that they have to punish Wednesday next season considering Weds are in the dock for putting something in the wrong year
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Have a horrible feeling that the EFL will say that due the complexities and time involved in both cases that any punishment will be effective from next season
    There would be a certain irony in the EFL making such a mess of this case that they have to punish Wednesday next season considering Weds are in the dock for putting something in the wrong year
    See, that is the issue that should get the 21 point deduction. They may have had agreement with the EFL that they could sell the stadium to themselves but I doubt that they had agreement to put the money into a previous accounting year.......especially into one in which the new owning "company" didn't  yet exist.

    This is not Miss Jones in accounts wrongly putting an order for 50 biro pens into the wrong column. This is outright cheating & probably fraud. If you or I done this with our Self Assesment tax returns then I expect a massive fine and/or prison time, not a rap on the knuckles.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,963
    bobmunro said:
    bobmunro said:
    My understanding is that the hearing involving Sheffield Wednesday has not yet been completed - they are still submitting evidence. So nowhere near the appeal stage yet.

    who is "still submitting evidence" wendies or EFL?
     what can possibly take from November til now to produce - if it has any validity at all
    Yet more evidence that EFL is a willing contributor and active participant in the maximum deferment of proceedings and mitigation of any grounds for sanction - in short they're in it up to their necks  

    Wendies.
    On cooler reflection I've settled on the realisation that this whole "process" is just window dressing for the EFL to engage in its favourite hobbies, namely: lowering its strides, bending over and pleading to be shafted over and over again while being berated and verbally abused in the most profane and humiliating ways imaginable.  No pain, or degradation ever quite satisfies them.

    You dont happen to have their number, do you?
    (asking for a friend)
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    LTKapal said:
    So about that SW points deduction 
    It only benefiting us makes it even less likely to happen, the EFL know we won't be able to fight the decision.
  • shuffs67
    shuffs67 Posts: 90
    Bet there not suing now
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,689
    LTKapal said:
    So about that SW points deduction 
    No chance. The club that was threatening legal action, Barnsley, stay up. Easy for the efl now to do what they're good at,fuck all
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    No-one left at CAFC to force the issue. EFL will get off lightly with no pressure from Barnsley to do anything about it.
  • Too late for this season now.

    They'll likely just start next season with a deduction if found guilty.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,485
    Having to rely on two lots of points deductions to stay up. We don't deserve it. 
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  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,782
    Talal said:
    Having to rely on two lots of points deductions to stay up. We don't deserve it. 
    Our only hope is the Supporters Trust 
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,147
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    LTKapal said:
    So about that SW points deduction 
    It only benefiting us makes it even less likely to happen, the EFL know we won't be able to fight the decision.


    that's where farnell Steps in 😂😂😂😂
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
    They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
    They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
    But as we saw with Macclesfield, they make up their points deduction penalties as they go along
  • Super_horns
    Super_horns Posts: 1,299
    Shambles from the EFL really .

    Feel sorry for those involved.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
    They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
    But as we saw with Macclesfield, they make up their points deduction penalties as they go along
    Like your we are staying up bollocks you are wrong here. They are appealing the independent panel two points deduction as they feel it is not severe enough/
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    Come on peeps... We are not going to be saved by Sheffield fucking Wednesday.... Yes they will probably get a deduction.... But for next season!

    Accept we're down and lets get behind the Trust to really start causing some issues because if we don't sort the owners out we will not have a club at all. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    edited July 2020
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
    They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
    But as we saw with Macclesfield, they make up their points deduction penalties as they go along
    Like your we are staying up bollocks you are wrong here. They are appealing the independent panel two points deduction as they feel it is not severe enough/
    lol! Wondered how long it would take - Apologies for believing in my club and sticking by the players

    Dont worry I'll take all the comments on the chin about not giving up on survival unlike everyone else who predicted relegation a long time ago
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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,998
    WHAddick said:
    Don’t we ‘only’ need a massives 9 points deduction...surely possible.
    EFL will give them an eight point deduction then so we go down on Goal Difference

    They've not relegated Maccesfield for off field issues, they wont do it to Wednesday too
    They have set a precedence with Birmingham last year. Macclesfields case was completely different.....I say in desperation
    But as we saw with Macclesfield, they make up their points deduction penalties as they go along
    Like your we are staying up bollocks you are wrong here. They are appealing the independent panel two points deduction as they feel it is not severe enough/
    lol! Wondered how long it would take - Apologies for believing in my club and sticking by the players

    Dont worry I'll take all the comments on the chin about not giving up on survival unlike everyone else who predicted relegation a long time ago
    I’m with you mate 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    I'd laugh so hard if Wednesday got a deduction applied this season. Doubt it though.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    Barnsley,  with jeans and white trainers south london footy geyser as a manager deserved to stay up
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    I don't think it's that fans didn't believe in their team it's just that in this particular season we have been kicked around so much on and off the field that your self belief gets worn down..a lot of us saw this coming it was inevitable....the team did not have enough fight and I lost faith like many others but it didn't stop me supporting the team though. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    I don't think it's that fans didn't believe in their team it's just that in this particular season we have been kicked around so much on and off the field that your self belief gets worn down..a lot of us saw this coming it was inevitable....the team did not have enough fight and I lost faith like many others but it didn't stop me supporting the team though. 
    Unfortunately for me, supporting the team goes as far as refusing to give up even when the future looks bleak... I dont see the point else

    Not a dig by any means but for me its part n parcel along with games like the Play-Off Final, its easy to get behind the team in that scenario so for me its just as easy to believe in the team in a situation like this

    As I've said throughout the season when I've argued we'd survive, part of me always felt we might get relegated but that I'd refuse to believe or accept it until it actually happened
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,062
    I don't think it's that fans didn't believe in their team it's just that in this particular season we have been kicked around so much on and off the field that your self belief gets worn down..a lot of us saw this coming it was inevitable....the team did not have enough fight and I lost faith like many others but it didn't stop me supporting the team though. 
    Unfortunately for me, supporting the team goes as far as refusing to give up even when the future looks bleak... I dont see the point else

    Not a dig by any means but for me its part n parcel along with games like the Play-Off Final, its easy to get behind the team in that scenario so for me its just as easy to believe in the team in a situation like this

    As I've said throughout the season when I've argued we'd survive, part of me always felt we might get relegated but that I'd refuse to believe or accept it until it actually happened
    At least I don't have to get that tattoo done now of Alan Nixon is my hero... Phew! 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,311
    I don't think it's that fans didn't believe in their team it's just that in this particular season we have been kicked around so much on and off the field that your self belief gets worn down..a lot of us saw this coming it was inevitable....the team did not have enough fight and I lost faith like many others but it didn't stop me supporting the team though. 
    Unfortunately for me, supporting the team goes as far as refusing to give up even when the future looks bleak... I dont see the point else

    Not a dig by any means but for me its part n parcel along with games like the Play-Off Final, its easy to get behind the team in that scenario so for me its just as easy to believe in the team in a situation like this

    As I've said throughout the season when I've argued we'd survive, part of me always felt we might get relegated but that I'd refuse to believe or accept it until it actually happened
    At least I don't have to get that tattoo done now of Alan Nixon is my hero... Phew! 
    I dont remember that one so you'd have been safe with me not reminding you ;)
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    Come on peeps... We are not going to be saved by Sheffield fucking Wednesday.... Yes they will probably get a deduction.... But for next season!

    Accept we're down and lets get behind the Trust to really start causing some issues because if we don't sort the owners out we will not have a club at all. 
    I don’t accept that we are down when another team cheated in several ways to show a false profit, they were caught back in November, so should receive deduction this season! 

    Yes let’s sort the owners out. And let’s also continue to knock on EFL door every single day too!  
  • Are Barnsley still going to Appeal then...??
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    I'm sure Farnell is compiling his case against the efl if Sheff Wed get let off!