The EFL won't dock Wednesday points this season as it means we would stay in the championship, and the EFL's agenda seems to be to either relegate us or expel us from the league. At the moment, expulsion seems to be the EFL's preferred choice.
All that could yet save Wigan
Deduct Wednesday 12-pts, Charlton disappear from the League so Wigan stay up else the Championship has 25-teams next season.
If Charlton are disbanded/removed from the EFL system Championship has 3 teams promoted into it Championship has 3 teams relegated into it. Championship has 3 teams relegated from it.
League 1 has 3 teams promoted out of it. League 1 has 3 teams promoted into it. League 1 has 2 teams relegated into it.
League 1 is 1 team short.
1 additional side promoted from League 2 (assume the losing play off teams would have to play a play off or take their head to head to decide) and 1 additional side promoted from non league to L2.
The EFL won't dock Wednesday points this season as it means we would stay in the championship, and the EFL's agenda seems to be to either relegate us or expel us from the league. At the moment, expulsion seems to be the EFL's preferred choice.
All that could yet save Wigan
Deduct Wednesday 12-pts, Charlton disappear from the League so Wigan stay up else the Championship has 25-teams next season.
If Charlton are disbanded/removed from the EFL system Championship has 3 teams promoted into it Championship has 3 teams relegated into it. Championship has 3 teams relegated from it.
League 1 has 3 teams promoted out of it. League 1 has 3 teams promoted into it. League 1 has 2 teams relegated into it.
League 1 is 1 team short.
1 additional side promoted from League 2 (assume the losing play off teams would have to play a play off or take their head to head to decide) and 1 additional side promoted from non league to L2.
This might also be an opportunity to fend off legal action by Tranmere if the EFL allowed them to remain in League 1. Perhaps it is not such a bad result for the EFL if ESI are unable to pass their tests and the EFL are forced to kick Charlton out of the League?
Reckon Wigan will have their points deduction over turned sending us 2nd bottom.
Then Sheff Weds will have 21 points deducted meaning we are third bottom.
Then Derby will have 21 points deducted, meaning we are 4th bottom and staying up.
Then we will be deliriously happy.
Then Farnell will threaten to sue the EFL over Lockyer who will already have left and signed for another club under his relegation clause.
Then the EFL will dock us 12 points for ownership issues sending us down anyway.
Then this place goes into melt down.
Hull in the mean time, stay up.
I mean, mental as it is, all of the above is, I think, theoretically possible, however unlikely.
What a farce.
The EFL at that point just go "sod it" and give everyone a random points deduction, using the national lottery machine. In the first edition, Huddersfield get lucky with a 5 point deduction, while Brentford disastrously receive the maximum 49 point penalty.
"Next Saturday, two more teams find our what deduction they will get, on 'EFL points deduction with John Barrowman', 7:30pm live on BBC1"
Reckon Wigan will have their points deduction over turned sending us 2nd bottom.
Then Sheff Weds will have 21 points deducted meaning we are third bottom.
Then Derby will have 21 points deducted, meaning we are 4th bottom and staying up.
Then we will be deliriously happy.
Then Farnell will threaten to sue the EFL over Lockyer who will already have left and signed for another club under his relegation clause.
Then the EFL will dock us 12 points for ownership issues sending us down anyway.
Then this place goes into melt down.
Hull in the mean time, stay up.
I mean, mental as it is, all of the above is, I think, theoretically possible, however unlikely.
What a farce.
You’re not a glass half full chap, are you.
Lol, really just to show the lunacy of the situation. In reality, and as said before I still think the EFL will deduct Wednesday 12+ points and we will stay up. Just wish they would get on with itm
Strangely enough, the only decision I think that would be half acceptable in relation to the delay is for Wednesday to be found not guilty. If the question is really so complex that it couldn't have been answered by now, it is surely too complicated to find them guilty. If it isn't, the league can only be sitting on this which is an absolute scandal.
To be fair, we have reached a point where a not guilty verdict for Wednesday has been dragged on so long, that it is in itself unacceptable. This shames the EFL whatever the outcome. Are they guilty or not guilty, this is taking longer than is credible?
The fault is seen in the EFL in everything it does. It is far from open and it believes it can announce a bollocks process and conclusion and just refuse to talk about it. It doesn't realise the damage it is doing to itself by taking this approach, but that is how it does everything isn't it?
Strangely enough, the only decision I think that would be half acceptable in relation to the delay is for Wednesday to be found not guilty. If the question is really so complex that it couldn't have been answered by now, it is surely too complicated to find them guilty. If it isn't, the league can only be sitting on this which is an absolute scandal.
To be fair, we have reached a point where a not guilty verdict for Wednesday has been dragged on so long, that it is in itself unacceptable. This shames the EFL whatever the outcome. Are they guilty or not guilty, this is taking longer than is credible?
The fault is seen in the EFL in everything it does. It is far from open and it believes it can announce a bollocks process and conclusion and just refuse to talk about it. It doesn't realise the damage it is doing to itself by taking this approach, but that is how it does everything isn't it?
It’s not complex tho is it? It’s just arithmetic and the calendar EFL ‘charged’ SW with rule breaking back in November and kicked it into the long grass for no good reason anyone can imagine That reason might emerge if it comes up in the ‘hearing(s)’ and if EFL allow any content to be published The rule breaking is self evident SW’s get out can only be rooted in EFL complicity I make no allegation of wilful financial corruption by EFL or its staff Cock up is far more common than collusion
This also fits with the wanton delay and obfuscation
It would be unforgivable but wholly unsurprising if EFL have used the time to ‘get their story straight’ and move the culpable dimwits out of the firing line - with the equally unforgivable sacrifice of the game’s integrity Anything else is flat out cheating and possibly criminal
I can't see how it could possibly be that complex, but the EFL clearly have other ideas. If they feel they don't have to justify themselves to anybody, they probably think it is ok.
Barnsley will be allowed to make their views known in Wigan Athletic's appeal against their 12-point penalty for going into administration.
The Latics' hearing in front of an independent disciplinary commission is set to take place on Friday.
Wigan are appealing against the automatic punishment on the grounds of 'force majeure'.
Should Wigan win their case, it would relegate Barnsley, who finished fourth from bottom in the Championship.
The Tykes were bottom of the table with two games to go but beat both Nottingham Forest and Brentford to finish above Wigan, who would have ended the season in mid-table but for their points deduction.
Force majeure events are usually defined as certain acts, events or circumstances beyond the control of the involved parties, such as natural disasters, war or a pandemic.
It is likely Barnsley will argue for the punishment to remain in place given co-chairman Paul Conway threatened litigation earlier this month after becoming frustrated at the number of serious disciplinary matters put before the EFL this season that are still awaiting resolution.
Even after their survival had been secured, Barnsley issued a statement in which they complained about the "blatant disregard for sporting/competitive integrity and the lack of governance in our division".
The final game of the Championship season is on 4 August, when the play-off final will be held at Wembley.
The expectation is a decision in the Wigan case will be made next week.
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Championship has 3 teams promoted into it
Championship has 3 teams relegated into it.
Championship has 3 teams relegated from it.
League 1 has 3 teams promoted out of it.
League 1 has 3 teams promoted into it.
League 1 has 2 teams relegated into it.
League 1 is 1 team short.
1 additional side promoted from League 2 (assume the losing play off teams would have to play a play off or take their head to head to decide) and 1 additional side promoted from non league to L2.
Then Sheff Weds will have 21 points deducted meaning we are third bottom.
Then Derby will have 21 points deducted, meaning we are 4th bottom and staying up.
Then we will be deliriously happy.
Then Farnell will threaten to sue the EFL over Lockyer who will already have left and signed for another club under his relegation clause.
Then the EFL will dock us 12 points for ownership issues sending us down anyway.
Then this place goes into melt down.
Hull in the mean time, stay up.
I mean, mental as it is, all of the above is, I think, theoretically possible, however unlikely.
What a farce.
"Next Saturday, two more teams find our what deduction they will get, on 'EFL points deduction with John Barrowman', 7:30pm live on BBC1"
Surely....
To be fair, we have reached a point where a not guilty verdict for Wednesday has been dragged on so long, that it is in itself unacceptable. This shames the EFL whatever the outcome. Are they guilty or not guilty, this is taking longer than is credible?
The fault is seen in the EFL in everything it does. It is far from open and it believes it can announce a bollocks process and conclusion and just refuse to talk about it. It doesn't realise the damage it is doing to itself by taking this approach, but that is how it does everything isn't it?
EFL ‘charged’ SW with rule breaking back in November and kicked it into the long grass for no good reason anyone can imagine
That reason might emerge if it comes up in the ‘hearing(s)’ and if EFL allow any content to be published
The rule breaking is self evident
SW’s get out can only be rooted in EFL complicity
I make no allegation of wilful financial corruption by EFL or its staff
Cock up is far more common than collusion
Anything else is flat out cheating and possibly criminal
Barnsley will be allowed to make their views known in Wigan Athletic's appeal against their 12-point penalty for going into administration.
The Latics' hearing in front of an independent disciplinary commission is set to take place on Friday.
Wigan are appealing against the automatic punishment on the grounds of 'force majeure'.
Should Wigan win their case, it would relegate Barnsley, who finished fourth from bottom in the Championship.The Tykes were bottom of the table with two games to go but beat both Nottingham Forest and Brentford to finish above Wigan, who would have ended the season in mid-table but for their points deduction.
Force majeure events are usually defined as certain acts, events or circumstances beyond the control of the involved parties, such as natural disasters, war or a pandemic.
It is likely Barnsley will argue for the punishment to remain in place given co-chairman Paul Conway threatened litigation earlier this month after becoming frustrated at the number of serious disciplinary matters put before the EFL this season that are still awaiting resolution.
Even after their survival had been secured, Barnsley issued a statement in which they complained about the "blatant disregard for sporting/competitive integrity and the lack of governance in our division".
The final game of the Championship season is on 4 August, when the play-off final will be held at Wembley.
The expectation is a decision in the Wigan case will be made next week.
Get it?