Yes mate - Just off New Street Hill. My local is Prince Frederick.
I live just round the corner from the fred. Was all boarded up when I walked passed there with the dog earlier so I assume they aren’t opening. The red lion isn’t opening but the lock on barrell on London road and the oak on Widmore road are open.
The local on my road is exactly that, it's not built for social distancing. I spoke with the Landlord earlier who has no idea how it's going to work, he suggested that the regulars could use the seating area at the back and anyone else out front.
Fortunately I can see the pub from my front door, if it looks manic I will stay away until things settle down. I could take a pint glass across and walk back to mine....
I much prefer drinking at home anyway. You can drink far too much and crawl to the toilet without attracting adverse comment, fall asleep in your chair and start drinking again when you wake up.
After this time now anyway but fairly sure this would have covered it
I was surprised he said 6am as there was no law stopping anyone in fact at no point since lockdown had the licensing authority been in touch to tell anyone not too , pubs were allowed people in if they were doing takeaway and we have been allowed to sell alcohol throughout lockdown I don’t know why I was surprised as all lockdown rules seem to have been guidelines. From what I saw lots of pubs served throughout and opened from midnight.
Not allowed to open til 6am so they'll be shut down
As far as I’m aware there is no law stopping pubs opening at 12.01 , selling alcohol maybe but not opening
That’s like wearing socks if you haven’t got feet
Do you remember when the smoking ban came in there were pubs allowing smoking but not selling alcohol, the alcohol was free & you were charged £5 for a beer mat. One such pub I saw online that had their midnight party planned still had it but alcohol was free & you paid £50 to exit the pub at 6.01 !
my local - a recreation club - open 12-10, no pre booking tables but seating only once there, stay as long as u want with a max of 70 inside, 50 outside, members only, queuing system at bar, - only problem i can see is the snooker rules - only 1 player to touch the balls - might need a referee
I can see a few pubs and restaurants opening and then closing a few weeks later as it won't be worth their while.
Most of our restaurant clients up town aren’t opening until September earliest. They need to run at 70% minimum to make any money.
Can see the logic behind 70%. But note others like Hawksmoor are opening in the week. What’s the difference in business model that allows this or is it simply a difference of opinions as to what’s viable?
I can see a few pubs and restaurants opening and then closing a few weeks later as it won't be worth their while.
Most of our restaurant clients up town aren’t opening until September earliest. They need to run at 70% minimum to make any money.
Can see the logic behind 70%. But note others like Hawksmoor are opening in the week. What’s the difference in business model that allows this or is it simply a difference of opinions as to what’s viable?
Just different business models , a lot of pubs are tenancies or leasehold both having large rents to pay some own the freehold so might have a mortgage which will certainly be cheaper than rent or mortgage free so the base running costs are extremely low. Pubs that are tenanted or leased can come with a beer tie meaning they can pay a lot more for beer than a freehouse so nowhere near the profit per pint. Pubs that are more drink than food need to sell a lot of drink to make it work as spend per head can be around £5-£10 where as food pubs can make £15-£30 per head. location makes the biggest difference in operating costs & the model of tenanted or freehold is a massive factor.
I can see a few pubs and restaurants opening and then closing a few weeks later as it won't be worth their while.
Most of our restaurant clients up town aren’t opening until September earliest. They need to run at 70% minimum to make any money.
Can see the logic behind 70%. But note others like Hawksmoor are opening in the week. What’s the difference in business model that allows this or is it simply a difference of opinions as to what’s viable?
Just different business models , a lot of pubs are tenancies or leasehold both having large rents to pay some own the freehold so might have a mortgage which will certainly be cheaper than rent or mortgage free so the base running costs are extremely low. Pubs that are tenanted or leased can come with a beer tie meaning they can pay a lot more for beer than a freehouse so nowhere near the profit per pint. Pubs that are more drink than food need to sell a lot of drink to make it work as spend per head can be around £5-£10 where as food pubs can make £15-£30 per head. location makes the biggest difference in operating costs & the model of tenanted or freehold is a massive factor.
Good luck to you in your pub business from today. Although there is a huge chasm between you and I politically and socially I recognise from what you have described previously that you will re open certainly in a way that I would appreciate if I were ever to be a customer of yours. I wouldn't mind finding a pub like yours within walking distance of me to have a nice vegetarian meal and a beer...like Youngs Special which I have always enjoyed. Enough of the nostalgia...simply good luck in your pub business from today.
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It's just utter maddness
Oh sorry, I mean "Wetherspoons" not "home".
After this time now anyway but fairly sure this would have covered it
Do you remember when the smoking ban came in there were pubs allowing smoking but not selling alcohol, the alcohol was free & you were charged £5 for a beer mat.
One such pub I saw online that had their midnight party planned still had it but alcohol was free & you paid £50 to exit the pub at 6.01 !
forewarned is forearmed!
Pubs that are tenanted or leased can come with a beer tie meaning they can pay a lot more for beer than a freehouse so nowhere near the profit per pint.
Pubs that are more drink than food need to sell a lot of drink to make it work as spend per head can be around £5-£10 where as food pubs can make £15-£30 per head.
location makes the biggest difference in operating costs & the model of tenanted or freehold is a massive factor.
Although there is a huge chasm between you and I politically and socially I recognise from what you have described previously that you will re open certainly in a way that I would appreciate if I were ever to be a customer of yours.
I wouldn't mind finding a pub like yours within walking distance of me to have a nice vegetarian meal and a beer...like Youngs Special which I have always enjoyed.
Enough of the nostalgia...simply good luck in your pub business from today.
After such a long time in lockdown I am prepared (and luckily am able) to pay a premium price for a premium experience.
There is money now saved.
Shakes head.