League table talk

Callumcafc

If Hull win, Luton can’t catch us because of goal difference.

If Luton win, Hull can’t catch us because of goal difference.


At that point, assuming we don’t win at Leeds, we’re hoping Wigan can’t beat Fulham or the winner of today’s game doesn’t get a better result than us in midweek.

A Charlton win makes everything else irrelevant.

Mike

We do not want Cardiff to win today unless Millwall or Swansea do - otherwise they will have play offs safe against Hull

mattinfinland

Cardiff beating boro

Lazy_eye_metaphor

Looks like Hull have perked up since their 8-0 drubbing. SSN saying their playing well. 

peterreeves

bolloxbolder said:

SuedeAdidas said:

Isn’t a Hull win better for us now? 

100% yes. If it happens I predict that's us safe

Bold statement that.... I like it!! 

reserves

Can someone tell me what results we want now, cos I’m confused and I don’t know who to cheer for. 

mattinfinland

Final day:

Even if Luton or Hull win

The winner would need at least a draw if we lose against Leeds. 

Wigan also need to beat Fulham who could clinch automatic promotion if Fulham win and results go their way.

If Charlton beat Leeds, we stay up. 

If we draw against Leeds we stay up if wigan/luton/hull fail to win

If all three lose, we stay up regardless of our result 

ForeverAddickted

reserves said:

Can someone tell me what results we want now, cos I’m confused and I don’t know who to cheer for. 

Hull v Luton = Draw OR Hull win

Seeing that Blackburn are despatching Reading at the moment I guess a Luton win wont matter either as looks like Blackburn arent on holiday

Chris_from_Sidcup

reserves said:

Can someone tell me what results we want now, cos I’m confused and I don’t know who to cheer for. 

Millwall to match what Cardiff do
Luton to not win.
Sheff Weds to get a hiding off Fulham

mattinfinland

If Boro lose and Hull or Luton win, 

Boro could still get relegated on final day, if we win and hull/luton win

Actually scrap that hull and Luton have awful gd

Callumcafc

Millwall 1-0 down

Callumcafc

Hull 0-0 Luton

Chris_from_Sidcup

mattinfinland said:

If Boro lose and Hull or Luton win, 

Boro could still get relegated on final day, if we win and hull/luton win

Actually scrap that hull and Luton have awful gd

......and also whoever loses today from Hull/Luton would be below them along with Wigan and Barnsley.

mattinfinland

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

paulie8290

mattinfinland said:

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

They can still finish 5th

ForeverAddickted

mattinfinland said:

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

If Cardiff win on the last day and Nottm Forest dont then they'll face Fulham as things stand, they might prefer that to playing Brentford

You saw what happened with us on the last day last season

Chris_from_Sidcup

ForeverAddickted said:

mattinfinland said:

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

If Cardiff win on the last day and Nottm Forest dont then they'll face Fulham as things stand, they might prefer that to playing Brentford

You saw what happened with us on the last day last season

If Forest beat Barnsley tomorrow they will seal 5th spot barring a wild goal difference swing on the last day.

ForeverAddickted

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

mattinfinland said:

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

If Cardiff win on the last day and Nottm Forest dont then they'll face Fulham as things stand, they might prefer that to playing Brentford

You saw what happened with us on the last day last season

If Forest beat Barnsley tomorrow they will seal 5th spot barring a wild goal difference swing on the last day.

I still think all four Play-Off teams will want to go into the Play-Offs with form and no defeats behind them though

I think its extremely risky for a team to rest players ahead of them as you need momentum

Mike

Swansea can still catch Cardiff 3 points behind

ForeverAddickted

Mike said:

Swansea can still catch Cardiff 3 points behind

Both on the same Goal Difference ideally want Swansea to get a few more today

Cardiff wont be able to sit back if they get a goal against Hull

killerandflash

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

mattinfinland said:

Millwall losing 

Cardiff nothing to play for on Wednesday if it stays like this. 

But might want to keep the momentum going into the play offs if that score stays that way

If Cardiff win on the last day and Nottm Forest dont then they'll face Fulham as things stand, they might prefer that to playing Brentford

You saw what happened with us on the last day last season

If Forest beat Barnsley tomorrow they will seal 5th spot barring a wild goal difference swing on the last day.

The way this league is, it wouldn't surprise me if Barnsley win that game...

Forest aren't playing well for a start, and there have been so many shock results recently

Callumcafc

ForeverAddickted said:

Mike said:

Swansea can still catch Cardiff 3 points behind

Both on the same Goal Difference ideally want Swansea to get a few more today

Cardiff wont be able to sit back if they get a goal against Hull

If they’re on the same goal difference now then Swansea are guaranteed to go above Cardiff if they win and the Bluebirds lose.

ForeverAddickted

Callumcafc said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Mike said:

Swansea can still catch Cardiff 3 points behind

Both on the same Goal Difference ideally want Swansea to get a few more today

Cardiff wont be able to sit back if they get a goal against Hull

If they’re on the same goal difference now then Swansea are guaranteed to go above Cardiff if they win and the Bluebirds lose.

Duh!!... Well its 2-0 to Cardiff

RedRyan

Assuming Barnsley don’t win both of their remaining games:

A Hull Luton draw means there are three teams needing a win to go above us (Wigan, Luton, Hull) = four teams fighting to avoid two relegation spots.

A win for either means one team gone based on GD, so three teams fighting to avoid one relegation spot, one of whom could overtake us with a draw.

I’m not really sure which is the better scenario...

Ultimately we just need to batter Leeds 1-0 and we’ll be safe as houses (not a house selling analogy)

cafcfan1990

RedRyan said:

Assuming Barnsley don’t win both of their remaining games:

A Hull Luton draw means there are three teams needing a win to go above us (Wigan, Luton, Hull) = four teams fighting to avoid two relegation spots.

A win for either means one team gone based on GD, so three teams fighting to avoid one relegation spot, one of whom could overtake us with a draw.

I’m not really sure which is the better scenario...

Ultimately we just need to batter Leeds 1-0 and we’ll be safe as houses (not a house selling analogy)

Anything but a Luton win would do that's for sure. A point against Leeds Wednesday and we're safe. 

golfaddick

It will be what it will be. 

All I know is that it's in our own hands & even a draw should do. 

ForeverAddickted

golfaddick said:

It will be what it will be. 

All I know is that it's in our own hands & even a draw should do. 

You unnerve me at times

golfaddick

And when you say teams that are safe will just roll over......QPR are beating Millwall 4-2 and Reading who were 3-1 down away to Blackburn are now drawing 3-3.

Nothing in this League is predictable & teams that are "on the beach" can still upset the apple cart.

up_the_valley

Luton winning

ct_addick

up_the_valley said:

Luton winning

oh no here we go