Shinnie is the first one I'm not sure about, but Bowyer knows best I guess. I hope he doesn't have me missing Oztumer too much. If he can't pass a football then there are going to be some words
Some of your lot are mad. Talking about underwhelmed etc.
1. We are a league one club with a salary cap. 2. We have missed most of the transfer window due to ownership. 3. There is not this pool of proven attacking talent out there we can just pick up and sign.
Anyone that comes in i'm happy with. Everyone improves under Bowyer.
That's a bit of a generalisation
Of course Bowyer has been great, but that's not true. Oztumer, Aneke, Hemed
And we chose to sell Bonne. I know some people here didn't rate him, but ultimately we chose to take the money - we could have forced him to stay if we wanted. Will the likes of Shinnie or Smyth score more goals than Bonne?
Bowyer's always looking for more goals from midfield, so I'm not surprised there's still a push for attacking midfielders. If he's going to use Bogle as a focal point then getting in midfielders who can contribute a lot of goals could be just as significant as getting a decent striker in,
He'd better change his tactics/coaching methods then as I've not seen his teams do anything else than pass when 15-25 yards from goal. None of pour players know how to shoot from any sort of distance. You can't expect them all to be rushing into the box............and if you do you'd better train them to do it.
He got sent off against us in the 3-1 home win back in 2018, he was part of the Luton team that won League One that year. A solid signing if it comes off.
That's what I thought. Some absolute units in that Luton side.
Shinnie seems a decent signing to me, we have a lot of midfielders but it's not like many of them have been performing particularly great recently. Main negative to me is that it seems like it's just going to be Albie out of complete contention yet again, but feel like Bowyer would probably do that even if we didn't get someone new in.
Shinnie is the first one I'm not sure about, but Bowyer knows best I guess. I hope he doesn't have me missing Oztumer too much. If he can't pass a football then there are going to be some words
Tangential question: If I get a basic ValleyPass subscription does it give me access to delayed extended highlights for every game? and how soon after the match are the highlights available? (NB: picture of no relevance and simply used to get someone's attention)
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Well it's a million percent (if such a thing existed) YES from me.
Having seen both play multiple times, Oztumer is a better player than Shinnie.
I thought we shifted out Oz and Lapslie to make room for a much better player?
Better in what way though? Oztumer has one goal and (probably) no assists, albeit in the Champ with a stop start season. Not sure you can compare them looking at their pedigree so far, and experience
I’m personally comparing their general play whilst I’ve seen them live. Oztumer stood out at this level and Shinnie didn’t.
Fair enough it hasn’t worked out for Oztumer here, and Shinnie brings bags of experience - I just don’t see where he plays?
I’m quite confident Oztumer will get more goals and assists for Bristol Rovers than Shinnie will for us.
I’ve always been impressed by Shinnie, he was very good at Birmingham and for Luton in their title winning season.
Ozzie isnt champ level and that was obvious, this is his level but isn’t what we need according to Bowyer. I’d of preferred to keep him but he isn’t in form and clearly Bowyer doesn’t see him in future plans.
If Bowyer and Gallen have a choice, an actual choice for once, of who we sign and let go, and they come up with a player like Shinnie, then for me it’s in bowyer we trust every time.
This is their job, they know what they’re doing, if Bowyer and Gallen think he’s better than Oz then it’s good enough for me, not saying people can’t voice their opinions, just trying to put a little perspective on it all.
Some of your lot are mad. Talking about underwhelmed etc.
1. We are a league one club with a salary cap. 2. We have missed most of the transfer window due to ownership. 3. There is not this pool of proven attacking talent out there we can just pick up and sign.
Anyone that comes in i'm happy with. Everyone improves under Bowyer.
Back to that old chestnut again are we ?
If that was the case we wouldn't be bringing in players & loaning out ours as the "new improved" Lapslie, Morgan, Dempsey & Davisson would be enough to get us promoted.
We might not sign a striker with a track record of loads of goals but I’m feeling really excited.
We were a decimated squad three weeks ago. Now we have two big, ball-playing centre backs, new attacking fullbacks, our young winger with big potential is (almost certainly) staying and we have an older one who has shown he can be brilliant in this league. We have a mixture of creativity, control and grit in midfield and strikers with everything to prove.
Truth is, wages-wise, we probably can’t get the type of polished forward that people crave. But I believe we can score goals right across this team. We finished sixth in 17/18 with a top-scorer on 10. I do think more than one player will beat that this year and, who knows, maybe one of our forwards will have a breakthrough season... that would really be something!
Tangential question: If I get a basic ValleyPass subscription does it give me access to delayed extended highlights for every game? and how soon after the match are the highlights available? (NB: picture of no relevance and simply used to get someone's attention)
You succeeded you have my full attention !!!
Well it's a million percent (if such a thing existed) YES from me.
Tangential question: If I get a basic ValleyPass subscription does it give me access to delayed extended highlights for every game? and how soon after the match are the highlights available? (NB: picture of no relevance and simply used to get someone's attention)
You succeeded you have my full attention !!!
Well it's a million percent (if such a thing existed) YES from me.
For those questioning the Sorba Thomas valuation of around 500k (if true) then it's worth noting that Peterborough signed Jack Taylor from Barnet in January for 500k + add ons that could see the deal eventually worth 1m.
So if this guy is one of the best non league talents, it's not crazy to think they'd want a similar fee.
Some of your lot are mad. Talking about underwhelmed etc.
1. We are a league one club with a salary cap. 2. We have missed most of the transfer window due to ownership. 3. There is not this pool of proven attacking talent out there we can just pick up and sign.
Anyone that comes in i'm happy with. Everyone improves under Bowyer.
Back to that old chestnut again are we ?
If that was the case we wouldn't be bringing in players & loaning out ours as the "new improved" Lapslie, Morgan, Dempsey & Davisson would be enough to get us promoted.
Players can improve and still not good enough for what LB wants or even a work in progress.
Lapslie - has improved but maybe not good enough Morgan - Bowyer seems to be working hard on him adding more to his game, if he does that he becomes a better player and Bowyer has improved Dempsey not sure Davisson - work in progress.
I am pretty sure if it was not for the situation over last few seasons most of them would not have had as much football anyway.
Two years ago we got Beliek & Cullen on loan from PL clubs, seems a little disappointing we're now getting loanees from Luton and QPR, just my opinion. I trust Bowyer and Gallen to get the best ones in.
Two years ago we got Beliek & Cullen on loan from PL clubs, seems a little disappointing we're now getting loanees from Luton and QPR, just my opinion. I trust Bowyer and Gallen to get the best ones in.
Yeah because two years ago we werent crippled by a ridiculous salary cap
Some of your lot are mad. Talking about underwhelmed etc.
1. We are a league one club with a salary cap. 2. We have missed most of the transfer window due to ownership. 3. There is not this pool of proven attacking talent out there we can just pick up and sign.
Anyone that comes in i'm happy with. Everyone improves under Bowyer.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with saying if Smyth is an underwhelming signing if he is to be the striker. There is not even a slither of evidence to say he will add goals to us, but he will certainly add pace. Overall though, we desperately need goals and I do believe there are and has to be better players than Smyth who would provide more goals to the team. Not every signing you’re going to be overwhelmed or even whelmed about.
Tangential question: If I get a basic ValleyPass subscription does it give me access to delayed extended highlights for every game? and how soon after the match are the highlights available? (NB: picture of no relevance and simply used to get someone's attention)
You succeeded you have my full attention !!!
Well it's a million percent (if such a thing existed) YES from me.
Two years ago we got Beliek & Cullen on loan from PL clubs, seems a little disappointing we're now getting loanees from Luton and QPR, just my opinion. I trust Bowyer and Gallen to get the best ones in.
Yeah because two years ago we werent crippled by a ridiculous salary cap
No but we were crippled by an Ower who wouldn't put much more than the salary cap in even though he could
I’m going to reserve judgement on the players we’ve signed until I’ve seen them play. I don’t know any Palace, Luton, Peterborough, QPR, Chelsea or Boreham Wood fans to ask how good these players actually are. I am not in the know, I have no mates
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Of course Bowyer has been great, but that's not true. Oztumer, Aneke, Hemed
And we chose to sell Bonne. I know some people here didn't rate him, but ultimately we chose to take the money - we could have forced him to stay if we wanted. Will the likes of Shinnie or Smyth score more goals than Bonne?
Ownerships be shit or fine
And no-one HERE will surely know
If supa deals will cross that line.
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I’ve always been impressed by Shinnie, he was very good at Birmingham and for Luton in their title winning season.
This is their job, they know what they’re doing, if Bowyer and Gallen think he’s better than Oz then it’s good enough for me, not saying people can’t voice their opinions, just trying to put a little perspective on it all.
If that was the case we wouldn't be bringing in players & loaning out ours as the "new improved" Lapslie, Morgan, Dempsey & Davisson would be enough to get us promoted.
We were a decimated squad three weeks ago. Now we have two big, ball-playing centre backs, new attacking fullbacks, our young winger with big potential is (almost certainly) staying and we have an older one who has shown he can be brilliant in this league. We have a mixture of creativity, control and grit in midfield and strikers with everything to prove.
Truth is, wages-wise, we probably can’t get the type of polished forward that people crave. But I believe we can score goals right across this team. We finished sixth in 17/18 with a top-scorer on 10. I do think more than one player will beat that this year and, who knows, maybe one of our forwards will have a breakthrough season... that would really be something!
So if this guy is one of the best non league talents, it's not crazy to think they'd want a similar fee.
Like Curbs did: "The team is greater than the sum of its parts".
Players can improve and still not good enough for what LB wants or even a work in progress.
Lapslie - has improved but maybe not good enough
Morgan - Bowyer seems to be working hard on him adding more to his game, if he does that he becomes a better player and Bowyer has improved
Dempsey not sure
Davisson - work in progress.
I am pretty sure if it was not for the situation over last few seasons most of them would not have had as much football anyway.
- A proven scorer in L1
- 2 strikers who bring different skills to the game