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Summer Transfer Rumours 2020 (DEADLINE DAY from pg.258)
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I understand where you’re coming from, but I didn’t look at it how you’re saying I’ve looked at it.Cafc43v3r said:
Your comparing apples and oranges though. You might be proved right come the end of the season but you can't compare the whole of Bielik or Cullen's season against 20 minutes of Watson and about 120 minutes of Levitt can you?BR7_addick said:We need a side as good as the one we had 18/19, it’s as simple as that. IMO, it MUST be a big couple of weeks in the window for us to have a chance of going up, I’m not saying TS has got to make it happen this quick, I’m just saying if he doesn’t want this seasons aim written off already:
18/19 v 20/21
Phillips v Amos. 18/19
Djiksteel v Matthews (🙏🏻). 20/21
Purrington v Purrington. n/a
Bauer v Oshilaja 18/19
Sarr v Famewo 18/19 (could be wrong)
Bielik v Pratley/Watson 18/19
Cullen v Gilbey 18/19 (like AG but JC is JC)
Aribo v Levitt 18/19
Williams v Doughty -
Taylor v Bonne 18/19
Parker v Washington 20/21
So the posters saying we need this, this, that, that, this, that, are correct if we’re seriously considering going up this season.
If/when we get replacements for Dijksteel, BFG and Taylor the balance between the comparison may look very different.
Also if at the start of the 18/19 anyone claiming Phillips was a better keeper than Amos would have been told to "give their head a wobble".I looked at it from the angle that if both that player and this player were available who would you pick. And that’s where I was with it, you can’t tell me you’d not swap Watson for Bielik tomorrow given the chance? You can’t tell me given the chance you wouldn’t take Aribo or Cullen back in a swap deal for any of midfielders right now because you would surely?
Understand it looks negative but that’s where we are, promotion is so tough, you cannot underestimate the quality it requires.0 -
Also, if I compared our XI now to the XI of 17/18 it would probably be fairly even.Cafc43v3r said:
Your comparing apples and oranges though. You might be proved right come the end of the season but you can't compare the whole of Bielik or Cullen's season against 20 minutes of Watson and about 120 minutes of Levitt can you?BR7_addick said:We need a side as good as the one we had 18/19, it’s as simple as that. IMO, it MUST be a big couple of weeks in the window for us to have a chance of going up, I’m not saying TS has got to make it happen this quick, I’m just saying if he doesn’t want this seasons aim written off already:
18/19 v 20/21
Phillips v Amos. 18/19
Djiksteel v Matthews (🙏🏻). 20/21
Purrington v Purrington. n/a
Bauer v Oshilaja 18/19
Sarr v Famewo 18/19 (could be wrong)
Bielik v Pratley/Watson 18/19
Cullen v Gilbey 18/19 (like AG but JC is JC)
Aribo v Levitt 18/19
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Taylor v Bonne 18/19
Parker v Washington 20/21
So the posters saying we need this, this, that, that, this, that, are correct if we’re seriously considering going up this season.
If/when we get replacements for Dijksteel, BFG and Taylor the balance between the comparison may look very different.
Also if at the start of the 18/19 anyone claiming Phillips was a better keeper than Amos would have been told to "give their head a wobble".0 -
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you goMattF said:There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over23 -
That's more like itflyingkiwiDK said:
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you goMattF said:There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over0 -
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Of course we'd all take proven players over new signings, but what we don't know is how we'll rate Levitt, Watson etc at the end of the season compared to how we rate them now. Pratley's a great example, he was written off and I'm not sure anyone expected him to make the impact he did in the play-offs and the Championship.BR7_addick said:
I understand where you’re coming from, but I didn’t look at it how you’re saying I’ve looked at it.Cafc43v3r said:
Your comparing apples and oranges though. You might be proved right come the end of the season but you can't compare the whole of Bielik or Cullen's season against 20 minutes of Watson and about 120 minutes of Levitt can you?BR7_addick said:We need a side as good as the one we had 18/19, it’s as simple as that. IMO, it MUST be a big couple of weeks in the window for us to have a chance of going up, I’m not saying TS has got to make it happen this quick, I’m just saying if he doesn’t want this seasons aim written off already:
18/19 v 20/21
Phillips v Amos. 18/19
Djiksteel v Matthews (🙏🏻). 20/21
Purrington v Purrington. n/a
Bauer v Oshilaja 18/19
Sarr v Famewo 18/19 (could be wrong)
Bielik v Pratley/Watson 18/19
Cullen v Gilbey 18/19 (like AG but JC is JC)
Aribo v Levitt 18/19
Williams v Doughty -
Taylor v Bonne 18/19
Parker v Washington 20/21
So the posters saying we need this, this, that, that, this, that, are correct if we’re seriously considering going up this season.
If/when we get replacements for Dijksteel, BFG and Taylor the balance between the comparison may look very different.
Also if at the start of the 18/19 anyone claiming Phillips was a better keeper than Amos would have been told to "give their head a wobble".I looked at it from the angle that if both that player and this player were available who would you pick. And that’s where I was with it, you can’t tell me you’d not swap Watson for Bielik tomorrow given the chance? You can’t tell me given the chance you wouldn’t take Aribo or Cullen back in a swap deal for any of midfielders right now because you would surely?
Understand it looks negative but that’s where we are, promotion is so tough, you cannot underestimate the quality it requires.3 -
I actually think all of this talk about Doughty and Bonne is really impacting on their game right now, whether it’s consciously or not.
If they’re both here by the time the window shuts, which I believe they will be, I think their performances and results in front of goal will vastly improve.
We desperately need new players, at least another 6, at least. But it would be foolish for anyone to start to write Bonne off. He scored 1 in 3 in a struggling Championship side who created the least in the league all last season. He hasn’t started like a house on fire, but neither have we. He will get double figures this season, 100%.
Personally, I think we need two right backs, a centre back, a left back, a winger, a wide forward who can play up top and out wide, and an out and out striker.
I would like another centre midfielder as well, but that’s probably a little greedy.24 -
Happy to be proven wrong, I just think we are off the promotion pace, and will be unless some drastic change happens.Scoham said:
Of course we'd all take proven players over new signings, but what we don't know is how we'll rate Levitt, Watson etc at the end of the season compared to how we rate them now. Pratley's a great example, he was written off and I'm not sure anyone expected him to make the impact he did in the play-offs and the Championship.BR7_addick said:
I understand where you’re coming from, but I didn’t look at it how you’re saying I’ve looked at it.Cafc43v3r said:
Your comparing apples and oranges though. You might be proved right come the end of the season but you can't compare the whole of Bielik or Cullen's season against 20 minutes of Watson and about 120 minutes of Levitt can you?BR7_addick said:We need a side as good as the one we had 18/19, it’s as simple as that. IMO, it MUST be a big couple of weeks in the window for us to have a chance of going up, I’m not saying TS has got to make it happen this quick, I’m just saying if he doesn’t want this seasons aim written off already:
18/19 v 20/21
Phillips v Amos. 18/19
Djiksteel v Matthews (🙏🏻). 20/21
Purrington v Purrington. n/a
Bauer v Oshilaja 18/19
Sarr v Famewo 18/19 (could be wrong)
Bielik v Pratley/Watson 18/19
Cullen v Gilbey 18/19 (like AG but JC is JC)
Aribo v Levitt 18/19
Williams v Doughty -
Taylor v Bonne 18/19
Parker v Washington 20/21
So the posters saying we need this, this, that, that, this, that, are correct if we’re seriously considering going up this season.
If/when we get replacements for Dijksteel, BFG and Taylor the balance between the comparison may look very different.
Also if at the start of the 18/19 anyone claiming Phillips was a better keeper than Amos would have been told to "give their head a wobble".I looked at it from the angle that if both that player and this player were available who would you pick. And that’s where I was with it, you can’t tell me you’d not swap Watson for Bielik tomorrow given the chance? You can’t tell me given the chance you wouldn’t take Aribo or Cullen back in a swap deal for any of midfielders right now because you would surely?
Understand it looks negative but that’s where we are, promotion is so tough, you cannot underestimate the quality it requires.0 -
I'm sure no one would disagree with us being off the promotion pace. Sure something dramatic would have to happen, but that can definitely happen when you're still after 6/7 more signings. We could have a completely different starting 11 (except Amos) if we sign that many, start them all plus Watson, Williams, Pearce and Gilbey.BR7_addick said:
Happy to be proven wrong, I just think we are off the promotion pace, and will be unless some drastic change happens.Scoham said:
Of course we'd all take proven players over new signings, but what we don't know is how we'll rate Levitt, Watson etc at the end of the season compared to how we rate them now. Pratley's a great example, he was written off and I'm not sure anyone expected him to make the impact he did in the play-offs and the Championship.BR7_addick said:
I understand where you’re coming from, but I didn’t look at it how you’re saying I’ve looked at it.Cafc43v3r said:
Your comparing apples and oranges though. You might be proved right come the end of the season but you can't compare the whole of Bielik or Cullen's season against 20 minutes of Watson and about 120 minutes of Levitt can you?BR7_addick said:We need a side as good as the one we had 18/19, it’s as simple as that. IMO, it MUST be a big couple of weeks in the window for us to have a chance of going up, I’m not saying TS has got to make it happen this quick, I’m just saying if he doesn’t want this seasons aim written off already:
18/19 v 20/21
Phillips v Amos. 18/19
Djiksteel v Matthews (🙏🏻). 20/21
Purrington v Purrington. n/a
Bauer v Oshilaja 18/19
Sarr v Famewo 18/19 (could be wrong)
Bielik v Pratley/Watson 18/19
Cullen v Gilbey 18/19 (like AG but JC is JC)
Aribo v Levitt 18/19
Williams v Doughty -
Taylor v Bonne 18/19
Parker v Washington 20/21
So the posters saying we need this, this, that, that, this, that, are correct if we’re seriously considering going up this season.
If/when we get replacements for Dijksteel, BFG and Taylor the balance between the comparison may look very different.
Also if at the start of the 18/19 anyone claiming Phillips was a better keeper than Amos would have been told to "give their head a wobble".I looked at it from the angle that if both that player and this player were available who would you pick. And that’s where I was with it, you can’t tell me you’d not swap Watson for Bielik tomorrow given the chance? You can’t tell me given the chance you wouldn’t take Aribo or Cullen back in a swap deal for any of midfielders right now because you would surely?
Understand it looks negative but that’s where we are, promotion is so tough, you cannot underestimate the quality it requires.
Bowyer could spend a significant fee for the first time and he's been manager for 2 1/2 years. He could bring in some real quality for this level even with just a million or two, there will be more players out there like Gilbey who clubs are willing to let go for a reasonable fee given the COVID situation.5 -
Of course, "Rome wasn't built in a day", etc ......... and quelle surprise, nor is our promotion winning team this season.
In fact, it was just the remnants of last season's squad, after 12 players left - plus a couple added in August, another 3 weeks ago and 2 more this weekend.
That's still a lot of gaps in the squad, let alone in the 1st team. That's apparent, so personally I'm not going to be too critical right now.
The transfer embargo was a long time being lifted, but we're ready to continue rebuilding. New signings will be made, a little patience needed while they gel. And the rest is down to Bowyer.
Today after the Lincoln game, I wasn't so disappointed with players' individual performances, missing chances, or the referee's almighty cock up. But where was the fight and motivation in the 2nd half?
We need to be bringing in players with strong mental focus and determination.
Oh, a rumour? Adam Matthews is still hiding in the shed.
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I think the point regarding a striker and in particular Schwartz is that he’s completely unknown in English football. We all hope that he will be good enough to make an impact but he could just as easily be out of his depth. Having to run with what we have up front plus Schwartz until January could easily cost us this season. Davison needs a loan and on that basis I would like to see us sign two strikers. Certainly Schwartz looks like a worthwhile punt but surely that’s all he is at this point.3
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Surely we can just stick him in one of these?
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Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.1 -
I would say it’s comparable to league one.MattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.1 -
Not sure the quarantine rules would apply if a test is provided. If you've been tested and results are negative business as usual? Probably how Sandgaard got around going back and forth.0
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Excellent post but please can you take your considered, balanced views away from this thread! It seems people prefer to panic after every defeat.Cafc43v3r said:The players we have got aren't the problem. Stop trying to judge players based on an unbalanced team. The world and his wife can see we need a goal scorer. I would expect Bonne and Washington would say so them selves.
We can't play 1 up top because we don't have anyone that can play that role. We have 3 number tens who are more than good enough to play in this league. We have no right sided center back or right back.
Look what a different team we looked when Purrington came in last time we were in this division. He wasn't Roberto Carlos but playing with an actual left back made a big difference.
It's balance, and numbers at the back, that we need. We will get them over the next ten days and the players playing now will look completely different.
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He scored six for Midtjylland and twelve for Silkeborg last seasonRiscardo said:
He only scored 2 !!!MattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Schwartz#Career_statistics
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Top clubs in the DKK Supaliga compete in European competition, of course - and would be Championship standard, more or less.ShootersHillGuru said:
I would say it’s comparable to league one.MattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.
A bit like the the Scottish Prem ..... a handful of bigger clubs with decent pedigree players, a few more who always promise more than they can achieve and a couple punching above their weight.
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Riscardo said:
He only scored 2 !!!MattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.
https://youtu.be/yvvSMKIzjzU
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It isMattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.9 -
Better hope we can get the deal over the line thenflyingkiwiDK said:
It isMattF said:Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.1 -
Schwartz didn't play yesterday and hasn't played this season - https://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=3306&teamTabs=results
For comparison Vetokele came from one of the top Danish clubs and made an impact in the Championship (until we overplayed him and he picked up a lot of injuries).8 -
A couple of his goals in that compilation came against FC Copenhagen (0:55 to 1:10).A team who got to the Europa League quarter final and were knocked out by Man U in extra time are no mugs.I’d say he’s proved he can do it against a much better standard than League One.6
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I think players the level of Schwartz will stand out in L1. Need more than just him though
Part of me still hopes we have a chance with Cullen before the window shuts10 -
Where did I say that.....? FWIW I reckon he'll do ok - better than Bonne certainly. But we still need a poacher type striker.Leeds_Addick said:
Written him off before he's even in the country, greatgolfaddick said:
Been saying this from day one. Schwarz might do ok (better than Bonne) but we still need a poacher to finish off half chances in the box.Valley27000 said:proven striker in league one needed?.
Until we do we wont be getting out of this division.0 -
Cullen is a no go, not in league one6
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We are lucky we are only three games in so plenty to play for but we need I’d say eight players in and the sooner the better obviously.3
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We can still get 132 points! Obviously we won’t but we can only drop 40-45 points if we are to have any hope of going up automatically.
5 players = playoffs
7-8 = promotion
on the basis that we bring in quality and not Stephen Taylor!!!!1
