There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you go
Any idea why he returned or what the issue is?
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.
The club he plays for were blown away by Rangers in the Europa league last season, 7-3 on aggregate.
However they've since walked the Danish league and are now 90 minutes away from qualifying for this years Champions league group stages, so are clearly a lot lot better than league one level.
There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you go
Any idea why he returned or what the issue is?
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
I got the idea from Bowyer's quote that he flew back when we lost the injunction appeal.
There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you go
Any idea why he returned or what the issue is?
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
I got the idea from Bowyer's quote that he flew back when we lost the injunction appeal.
I thought @flyingkiwiDK said he did his medical last week, which we now know was after TS had been approved by the EFL and things were going through?
Schwartz was the top goalscorer in the Danish Superliga last season with 18 goals.
Only thing I'm not sure of is how that league compares to League One. Assume it is a high standard.
The club he plays for were blown away by Rangers in the Europa league last season, 7-3 on aggregate.
However they've since walked the Danish league and are now 90 minutes away from qualifying for this years Champions league group stages, so are clearly a lot lot better than league one level.
Worth pointing out that that aggregate result was in August 2019, five months before Schwartz joined the club in January 2020. A year on I reckon this season’s FCM would beat the current Rangers side.
Similar comparison, same leagues, same season: Copenhagen beat Celtic 4-2 on aggregate in the Europa League. Maybe the Danish league can be considered of a similar quality to the Scottish League with teams going on European runs at the top, smaller teams struggling at the bottom.
If there was a 31 year old striker in Scotland who had just come off an 18 goal season for St Mirren and Rangers combined, who would be complaining that we were in for him?
A couple of his goals in that compilation came against FC Copenhagen (0:55 to 1:10).
A team who got to the Europa League quarter final and were knocked out by Man U in extra time are no mugs.
I’d say he’s proved he can do it against a much better standard than League One.
Fernando Torres scored 65 in 102 at Liverpool over 4 years.
Moved to a different team with the same quality of players, in the same country, in the same league against the same level of opposition.
Fernando Torres scored 20 in 110 for Chelsea over 4 years.
Schwartz may have done it against better opposition than in league one, doesn't mean he'll come in and do it for us though. On paper he's a better option than Bonne but won't pin my hopes and dreams on him.
Bonne (if he's here past the window) Washington Aneke Schwartz Prem kid loan
Unless there's a lower league gem or a champ squad player that wants and needs a drop down, that's probably how we'll look.
There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you go
Any idea why he returned or what the issue is?
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
He’d already been with us all week. I think he just needed to return to his family before the restrictions kicked in.
There has been a disturbing lack of ITK postings on this thread recently to keep things ticking over
Schwartz has returned to Denmark but the deal is not dead yet. There you go
Any idea why he returned or what the issue is?
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
He’d already been with us all week. I think he just needed to return to his family before the restrictions kicked in.
Unless he was back in the UK at the weekend he won't be able to even train for with the team for 2 weeks. I assume, if he has already had a medical, he doesn't have to physically be there to "sign".
Are the offers that have been banded about for Bonne genuine or just his agent making them up?
If they're genuine I really do think we'll have to listen to them.
To me they sound like agent talk and lazy journalists.
Bloke scores a few goals for a "crisis" club. I find it hard to believe anyone that's watched, or had him watched, seriously thinks he is a top half championship striker.
He is 24, so there is room to improve. He is probably "better" than Taylor was at 24. But he has already gone for a bigger fee than Lyle ever did 😜
I would like to get to the position we don't use Pratley as much and certainly not a starting regular.
Nothing against DP he has been great for us but he has been getting far to much game time for a team looking to be on the front foot. Last year in the championship when we was underdogs he was needed and did very well with his work ethic breaking up play etc but in league one think we need a different approach.
Last time in league one he was generally not a starter as we looked to control games in midfield keeping possession with Cullen, Aribo, Belik, Ward/Williams. He come in when needed or on as a sub and the big games for his experience.
Marcus Maddison is available. We seriously need to take a look and try and get him in. Plenty of decent freebies out there as well
Agree. Now we have TS as owner I would like see a more long term transfer strategy instead of the plug holes strategy we have had over the last few years.
Are the offers that have been banded about for Bonne genuine or just his agent making them up?
If they're genuine I really do think we'll have to listen to them.
To me they sound like agent talk and lazy journalists.
Bloke scores a few goals for a "crisis" club. I find it hard to believe anyone that's watched, or had him watched, seriously thinks he is a top half championship striker.
He is 24, so there is room to improve. He is probably "better" than Taylor was at 24. But he has already gone for a bigger fee than Lyle ever did 😜
I just don't think his head's in the right place and his agent seems to have a big influence on him. He scored goals last year yes. But I don't think it was ever Bowyers intention to play him anywhere as much as he did. But the situation dictated that.
As you say he is only 24 and does have talent. Could do with a good season in league one. But I think his agent has other ideas.
I’m not so concerned about Bonne scoring goals, he might not get 20+ but he should be scoring at least 10-15 at this level. I’m more concerned he’ll go through games offering nothing outside the box. With us being one of the bigger clubs in League 1 and expecting to be aiming for promotion he’s not going to get the space he did in the Championship. It’s even more important that his touch is good, he can hold up the ball, run with it, win headers etc. He’s struggling with all of that at the moment.
Whether he’s sold could come down to if Bowyer and Gallen can bring in two strikers. If not we’ll be making our squad weaker.
Been saying this from day one. Schwarz might do ok (better than Bonne) but we still need a poacher to finish off half chances in the box.
Until we do we wont be getting out of this division.
How do you know Schwartz isn't that type of striker?
I'm going to assume you've never once seen him play.
Agreed. Going by his 2019/20 goals video he looks exactly that type of striker - nothing spectacular but has a knack of getting the ball in net. Then again, I remember a very similar highlight video of Ajose doing the rounds just before he joined...
Marcus Maddison is available. We seriously need to take a look and try and get him in. Plenty of decent freebies out there as well
Seem to remember he didn't want to sign for us in January because he didn't like the traffic in London. You would expect Peterborough to have him back, but from their chairman's interview he's been to much of a problem to them over the recent years.
Problem with Maddison I fully expect him to have the attitude that as a Free Transfer he doesnt have to rush to sign anyone and holds all the cards
After all its not like he has to ensure he's signed up with someone before the end of the Transfer Window
In his head he's probably thinking that if he waits a little longer then clubs will start getting injuries so will become more desperate for his services
I’m not so concerned about Bonne scoring goals, he might not get 20+ but he should be scoring at least 10-15 at this level. I’m more concerned he’ll go through games offering nothing outside the box. With us being one of the bigger clubs in League 1 and expecting to be aiming for promotion he’s not going to get the space he did in the Championship. It’s even more important that his touch is good, he can hold up the ball, run with it, win headers etc. He’s struggling with all of that at the moment.
Whether he’s sold could come down to if Bowyer and Gallen can bring in two strikers. If not we’ll be making our squad weaker.
Great point Sco. Teams are more likely to sit back against us in this league. We need a striker who's a bit clever and can make things happen on the edge of the box, or drop deep and cause problems by bringing other players in, like Kermorgant or Taylor did. Having Bonne just stand on the penalty spot means we just end up lumping it. There is no nous because he can't play that kind of football.
Been saying this from day one. Schwarz might do ok (better than Bonne) but we still need a poacher to finish off half chances in the box.
Until we do we wont be getting out of this division.
How do you know Schwartz isn't that type of striker?
I'm going to assume you've never once seen him play.
Agreed. Going by his 2019/20 goals video he looks exactly that type of striker - nothing spectacular but has a knack of getting the ball in net. Then again, I remember a very similar highlight video of Ajose doing the rounds just before he joined...
A natural goalscorer would have had 3 or 4 yesterday. Not digging out Washington or Bonne but the amount of chances yesterday when if they were prolific would have taken a straight shot instead of taking an extra touch in the box.
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5 players = playoffs
7-8 = promotion
on the basis that we bring in quality and not Stephen Taylor!!!!
Surely if he flew here and did a medical then with the 14 day quarantine ruling, he'd only fly back if he'd changed his mind or there was another club interested?
However they've since walked the Danish league and are now 90 minutes away from qualifying for this years Champions league group stages, so are clearly a lot lot better than league one level.
I got the idea from Bowyer's quote that he flew back when we lost the injunction appeal.
The last striker we signed form a Danish club was Igor Vetokele (FC Copenhagen).. He was pretty useful before his injury.
Similar comparison, same leagues, same season: Copenhagen beat Celtic 4-2 on aggregate in the Europa League. Maybe the Danish league can be considered of a similar quality to the Scottish League with teams going on European runs at the top, smaller teams struggling at the bottom.
If there was a 31 year old striker in Scotland who had just come off an 18 goal season for St Mirren and Rangers combined, who would be complaining that we were in for him?
Moved to a different team with the same quality of players, in the same country, in the same league against the same level of opposition.
Fernando Torres scored 20 in 110 for Chelsea over 4 years.
Schwartz may have done it against better opposition than in league one, doesn't mean he'll come in and do it for us though. On paper he's a better option than Bonne but won't pin my hopes and dreams on him.
Bonne (if he's here past the window)
Washington
Aneke
Schwartz
Prem kid loan
Unless there's a lower league gem or a champ squad player that wants and needs a drop down, that's probably how we'll look.
How many signings today?
If they're genuine I really do think we'll have to listen to them.
Bloke scores a few goals for a "crisis" club. I find it hard to believe anyone that's watched, or had him watched, seriously thinks he is a top half championship striker.
He is 24, so there is room to improve. He is probably "better" than Taylor was at 24. But he has already gone for a bigger fee than Lyle ever did 😜
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I would like to get to the position we don't use Pratley as much and certainly not a starting regular.
Nothing against DP he has been great for us but he has been getting far to much game time for a team looking to be on the front foot. Last year in the championship when we was underdogs he was needed and did very well with his work ethic breaking up play etc but in league one think we need a different approach.
Last time in league one he was generally not a starter as we looked to control games in midfield keeping possession with Cullen, Aribo, Belik, Ward/Williams. He come in when needed or on as a sub and the big games for his experience.
He scored goals last year yes. But I don't think it was ever Bowyers intention to play him anywhere as much as he did. But the situation dictated that.
As you say he is only 24 and does have talent. Could do with a good season in league one.
But I think his agent has other ideas.
Whether he’s sold could come down to if Bowyer and Gallen can bring in two strikers. If not we’ll be making our squad weaker.
You would expect Peterborough to have him back, but from their chairman's interview he's been to much of a problem to them over the recent years.
After all its not like he has to ensure he's signed up with someone before the end of the Transfer Window
In his head he's probably thinking that if he waits a little longer then clubs will start getting injuries so will become more desperate for his services