Just curious, what's the difference between sitting in a pub/restaurant without a mask, or walking round a shopping centre or sitting on a train? Shoppers/commuters seem to be criticized, but it's okay if you're having a pint with mates?
Maybe the requirement to use your mouth to eat and drink in pubs and restaurants?
And the fact track and trace should be in those places as well to mitigate to an extent.
Exactly this. The pub or restaurant should have your contact details, the shopping centre/train etc will not. This is about track and trace.
Just curious, what's the difference between sitting in a pub/restaurant without a mask, or walking round a shopping centre or sitting on a train? Shoppers/commuters seem to be criticized, but it's okay if you're having a pint with mates?
Maybe the requirement to use your mouth to eat and drink in pubs and restaurants?
And the fact track and trace should be in those places as well to mitigate to an extent.
It is also a risk assessment of risk vs getting life and some businesses back to some semblance of normality.
Interesting that
Chris Whitty blames huge spike in cases among 17-29 year-olds for tough new curbs
as they are the majority (of the minority) I have seen not wearing a mask or wearing it as a chin strap
If I got on a train or bus and there were no mask wearers I would make a very loud pretend phone call describing my circumstances, and I would be very loudly abusive about non mask wearers calling them wankers, but slightly modifying my pretend call by acknowledging a small minority are exempt. Not in any way helpful, but a good way to express and reduce personal frustration.
What would you do if you received an incoming call during your fake call?
Was in Oxford Street this evening, and a surprising number of people not wearing masks inside shops.
Uniqlo had a security person guarding the door, but his duties didn't include asking people to wear a mask judging from the people entering in front of me
Because he can't, there are no rules only guidelines that are totally reliant on the great British public to roll with or make it their field to die upon
I don't like wearing a mask and I don't know anyone that does but I've long thought it was a decent bit of social etiquette by South East Asian culture to do so when in public so as not to spread germs
Our gut bacteria are screwed anyway by the amount of chemicals on food so our immune systems will be a bit weaker than years gone by and I am appreciating not having a cold for the last 6 months mainly because I've hardly been anywhere
Is it that hard. Our doctors have our records. Everyone wears a mask or you dont get in the shops those that are exempt they get a proper certificate off the doctor not some Mickey mouse one anyone can knock up on the internet
I think that's fine in principle but the issue is that most of these people who don't wear masks are narcissistic scum who have never been told no in their life, or have quickly dealt with those who have said no.
Now tell the poor chap (or chapess) on minimum wage it's their job to police that outside of a Lidl, Poundstretcher or Bargain Booze.
No thanks.
Also, anything to do with asking people to prove that they are exempt will lead to lazy accusations by people who should know better that "they should all just have numbers tattooed on their forehead/wear badges right?"
Im not expecting those on minimum wage to police it. Heres the thing though From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Is it that hard. Our doctors have our records. Everyone wears a mask or you dont get in the shops those that are exempt they get a proper certificate off the doctor not some Mickey mouse one anyone can knock up on the internet
I think that's fine in principle but the issue is that most of these people who don't wear masks are narcissistic scum who have never been told no in their life, or have quickly dealt with those who have said no.
Now tell the poor chap (or chapess) on minimum wage it's their job to police that outside of a Lidl, Poundstretcher or Bargain Booze.
No thanks.
Also, anything to do with asking people to prove that they are exempt will lead to lazy accusations by people who should know better that "they should all just have numbers tattooed on their forehead/wear badges right?"
Im not expecting those on minimum wage to police it. Heres the thing though From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Everything has to be policed for the message it sends out. Start actually dishing out a few fines and you will find everybody starts to comply.
Is it that hard. Our doctors have our records. Everyone wears a mask or you dont get in the shops those that are exempt they get a proper certificate off the doctor not some Mickey mouse one anyone can knock up on the internet
I think that's fine in principle but the issue is that most of these people who don't wear masks are narcissistic scum who have never been told no in their life, or have quickly dealt with those who have said no.
Now tell the poor chap (or chapess) on minimum wage it's their job to police that outside of a Lidl, Poundstretcher or Bargain Booze.
No thanks.
Also, anything to do with asking people to prove that they are exempt will lead to lazy accusations by people who should know better that "they should all just have numbers tattooed on their forehead/wear badges right?"
Im not expecting those on minimum wage to police it. Heres the thing though From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Everything has to be policed for the message it sends out. Start actually dishing out a few fines and you will find everybody starts to comply.
Absolutely this. And the message to the myriads claiming exemption should be that if your breathing isn't sufficiently good to withstand the rigours of a small disposable mask, then it's too risky for you to be anywhere were they are considered mandatory. Frankly there's far too much pussyfooting around.
100% compliance everywhere I've been, other than families of about 8 that feel the need to all go shopping together. Usually accompanied by at least 2 grandparents, all with no masks on.
Also, delivery drivers for fast food outlets. Been through a couple with the kids and everyone jumping between different vehicles and gathering in large groups.
So, not 100% compliance, which is a great shame. There'll always be some that think they're exempt from guidelines and doing the right thing.
Is it that hard. Our doctors have our records. Everyone wears a mask or you dont get in the shops those that are exempt they get a proper certificate off the doctor not some Mickey mouse one anyone can knock up on the internet
I think that's fine in principle but the issue is that most of these people who don't wear masks are narcissistic scum who have never been told no in their life, or have quickly dealt with those who have said no.
Now tell the poor chap (or chapess) on minimum wage it's their job to police that outside of a Lidl, Poundstretcher or Bargain Booze.
No thanks.
Also, anything to do with asking people to prove that they are exempt will lead to lazy accusations by people who should know better that "they should all just have numbers tattooed on their forehead/wear badges right?"
Im not expecting those on minimum wage to police it. Heres the thing though From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Everything has to be policed for the message it sends out. Start actually dishing out a few fines and you will find everybody starts to comply.
Absolutely this. And the message to the myriads claiming exemption should be that if your breathing isn't sufficiently good to withstand the rigours of a small disposable mask, then it's too risky for you to be anywhere were they are considered mandatory. Frankly there's far too much pussyfooting around.
The disabilities that prevent people wearing masks are not all physical.
Anxiety based mental illness for example.
This was supposedly a free country once with a presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.
Why are masks any different to blue badges? Should I be allowed to park anywhere I want and if challenged just reply I have a disability? I don't need to know why you can't wear a mask, I just need to know it's a genuine reason, that I'm not wearing a mask to protect you when you don't have the common decency to do the same.
If you can't wear a standard mask then wear one of the clear screens pub staff wear. As has been said, if you have a condition that makes it impossible (not difficult, not uncomfortable, impossible) to wear a mask then you should probably be self-isolating anyway.
Is it that hard. Our doctors have our records. Everyone wears a mask or you dont get in the shops those that are exempt they get a proper certificate off the doctor not some Mickey mouse one anyone can knock up on the internet
I think that's fine in principle but the issue is that most of these people who don't wear masks are narcissistic scum who have never been told no in their life, or have quickly dealt with those who have said no.
Now tell the poor chap (or chapess) on minimum wage it's their job to police that outside of a Lidl, Poundstretcher or Bargain Booze.
No thanks.
Also, anything to do with asking people to prove that they are exempt will lead to lazy accusations by people who should know better that "they should all just have numbers tattooed on their forehead/wear badges right?"
Im not expecting those on minimum wage to police it. Heres the thing though From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Everything has to be policed for the message it sends out. Start actually dishing out a few fines and you will find everybody starts to comply.
Absolutely this. And the message to the myriads claiming exemption should be that if your breathing isn't sufficiently good to withstand the rigours of a small disposable mask, then it's too risky for you to be anywhere were they are considered mandatory. Frankly there's far too much pussyfooting around.
The disabilities that prevent people wearing masks are not all physical.
Anxiety based mental illness for example.
This was supposedly a free country once with a presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.
What happened?
I want to live in a free country, free to breath in fresh air that is free of other people's germs.
Just curious, what's the difference between sitting in a pub/restaurant without a mask, or walking round a shopping centre or sitting on a train? Shoppers/commuters seem to be criticized, but it's okay if you're having a pint with mates?
Have just got home from bluewater and was thinking the same.
Me and the mrs are walking around a half empty shopping centre without coming into close contact with anyone with our masks on and would say about 90% of others are too. Although some members of staff in shops were wearing the mask under the chin.
Restaurants were packed with people not wearing masks as obviously you cant wear your mask in a restaurant while eating and drinking and I'm guessing you cant catch covid in them either.
Stratford and the announcement Is you must wear face covering on the train - on boarding 6 lads could not give a fuck and told the ticket collector they are all exempt - and he asked them if they are walking through train at any time please wear a Mask - they could not give a hoot - and it’s not his job to enforce - good luck - who should enforce it !!!!
Just curious, what's the difference between sitting in a pub/restaurant without a mask, or walking round a shopping centre or sitting on a train? Shoppers/commuters seem to be criticized, but it's okay if you're having a pint with mates?
Have just got home from bluewater and was thinking the same.
Me and the mrs are walking around a half empty shopping centre without coming into close contact with anyone with our masks on and would say about 90% of others are too. Although some members of staff in shops were wearing the mask under the chin.
Restaurants were packed with people not wearing masks as obviously you cant wear your mask in a restaurant while eating and drinking and I'm guessing you cant catch covid in them either.
Find it strange that I go through Tesco’s on a 15 minute shop wearing a mask. Yet within the same store, groups of 3-4 sit in Costa for a longer period without masks. It’s nonsense.
We need the economy back on track. People, including members of my family, are losing their jobs. Others, again including members of my family, are overdue for important medical reviews. My grandchildren at primary school have fallen months behind because their head teacher refused to support online schooling.
Two members of my family have been through Covid and had a tough time. But the fact is we can no longer allow this to destroy our economy, schooling and businesses.
Just curious, what's the difference between sitting in a pub/restaurant without a mask, or walking round a shopping centre or sitting on a train? Shoppers/commuters seem to be criticized, but it's okay if you're having a pint with mates?
Have just got home from bluewater and was thinking the same.
Me and the mrs are walking around a half empty shopping centre without coming into close contact with anyone with our masks on and would say about 90% of others are too. Although some members of staff in shops were wearing the mask under the chin.
Restaurants were packed with people not wearing masks as obviously you cant wear your mask in a restaurant while eating and drinking and I'm guessing you cant catch covid in them either.
Find it strange that I go through Tesco’s on a 15 minute shop wearing a mask. Yet within the same store, groups of 3-4 sit in Costa for a longer period without masks. It’s nonsense.
We need the economy back on track. People, including members of my family, are losing their jobs. Others, again including members of my family, are overdue for important medical reviews. My grandchildren at primary school have fallen months behind because their head teacher refused to support online schooling.
Two members of my family have been through Covid and had a tough time. But the fact is we can no longer allow this to destroy our economy, schooling and businesses.
It is risk-based. It is possible for the supermarket to operate with customers shopping wearing face marks and on public transport but not in restaurants, pubs coffee shops etc. Aren't they saying you need to put a mask on whilst moving round a pub/restaurant now?
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
Absolutely right ... too many people are ignoring the new real issues.
We cannot carry on like this ... deaths from non-Covid ailments will go through the roof over the next 12 months ...far more than the Covid deaths we have experienced thus far.
And this is not my evaluation ... it has been stated by many senior cancer and heart practitioners for quite a while now.
My Italian cousin thinks a big reason Italy are doing so well is the 100% acceptance of mask wearing. Schoolkids have to wear a mask and can only take them off at their desks, if you are eating or drinking you take them off at your table. The rest of the time, you have to have your mask on and people are complying. Apart from the wearing of the masks everything has reached a normality there far beyond what we and other countries are experiencing.
My Italian cousin thinks a big reason Italy are doing so well is the 100% acceptance of mask wearing. Schoolkids have to wear a mask and can only take them off at their desks, if you are eating or drinking you take them off at your table. The rest of the time, you have to have your mask on and people are complying. Apart from the wearing of the masks everything has reached a normality there far beyond what we and other countries are experiencing.
I assume with how badly they were hit, it helped to sway the people to listen and follow instructions.
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
Absolutely right ... too many people are ignoring the new real issues.
We cannot carry on like this ... deaths from non-Covid ailments will go through the roof over the next 12 months ...far more than the Covid deaths we have experienced thus far.
And this is not my evaluation ... it has been stated by many senior cancer and heart practitioners for quite a while now.
We cannot allow the virus to spread unchecked, that would overwhelm the NHS and people suffering from other illnesses would be even less likely to get the treatment they need. More people were starting to get their treatment when the virus was under control.
Obviously we need to be able to look after everyone who becomes ill, but our NHS hasn't got that ability and it needs a lot more resources to be able to do that.
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
Absolutely right ... too many people are ignoring the new real issues.
We cannot carry on like this ... deaths from non-Covid ailments will go through the roof over the next 12 months ...far more than the Covid deaths we have experienced thus far.
And this is not my evaluation ... it has been stated by many senior cancer and heart practitioners for quite a while now.
We cannot allow the virus to spread unchecked, that would overwhelm the NHS and people suffering from other illnesses would be even less likely to get the treatment they need. More people were starting to get their treatment when the virus was under control.
Obviously we need to be able to look after everyone who becomes ill, but our NHS hasn't got that ability and it needs a lot more resources to be able to do that.
But the NHS was not overwhelmed ... and when the second wave occurs, we are far more prepared ... plus, at this stage, the signs are that deaths and hospitalisations are likely to be far less.
Covid has displaced everything else. Waiting lists are at an all time high, many people are too scared to get treatments, we are sitting on a health timebomb that will be massively worse then Covid.
My Italian cousin thinks a big reason Italy are doing so well is the 100% acceptance of mask wearing. Schoolkids have to wear a mask and can only take them off at their desks, if you are eating or drinking you take them off at your table. The rest of the time, you have to have your mask on and people are complying. Apart from the wearing of the masks everything has reached a normality there far beyond what we and other countries are experiencing.
That’s good knowledge @MuttleyCAFC, I booked a weekend away with gf a while ago to Florence next weekend and hadn’t realised the level of mask wearing going on in Italy.
We’ll take a lot more with us now so we can easily comply.
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
They are trying to strike a balance to get some parts of life up and running again. As we have discussed, some people aren't wearing them as it is, so I am not sure how much more many people would wear them even more anyway.
A few months ago it was suggested that not wearing a face mask in public should be considered to be in the same way as drink driving.
I agree with that. There will always be a small minority who drink drive, there would have been a minority who refused or could not wear a mask.
Unfortunately the opportunity to build that level of belief in any covid rules has been consistently undermined by high profile avoidance of rules or guidance and conflicting views.
Cummings didn’t help at all, the fact that the illness mostly soared younger people doesn’t help either.
Full mask wearing would need a major reset of government messaging and even then it may be too late without some meaningful enforcement action.
My Italian cousin thinks a big reason Italy are doing so well is the 100% acceptance of mask wearing. Schoolkids have to wear a mask and can only take them off at their desks, if you are eating or drinking you take them off at your table. The rest of the time, you have to have your mask on and people are complying. Apart from the wearing of the masks everything has reached a normality there far beyond what we and other countries are experiencing.
That’s good knowledge @MuttleyCAFC, I booked a weekend away with gf a while ago to Florence next weekend and hadn’t realised the level of mask wearing going on in Italy.
We’ll take a lot more with us now so we can easily comply.
Just wanted to point out that in Italy, as with everywhere else in the world there's not 100% acceptance of face coverings. Indeed there were protests in Rome just last week around this.
Italy has also recently been placed on the UK amber list as cases creep closer to 20 for 100,000. They are also recording a similar if not slightly higher deaths each day.
To me it’s a mixture of health and economy and it all contradicts each other.How can you not wear a mask in pub/restaurant but have to in a shop plus the staff don’t have to wear masks in the shop and are there most of the day but customers have too.If it was all about health and nothing else staff should be wearing masks at all times and pubs/restaurants should still be closed.The ones on here saying if you can’t wear a mask stay at home clearly don’t understand mental health issues and disabilities.My Daughter has special needs, learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
Absolutely right ... too many people are ignoring the new real issues.
We cannot carry on like this ... deaths from non-Covid ailments will go through the roof over the next 12 months ...far more than the Covid deaths we have experienced thus far.
And this is not my evaluation ... it has been stated by many senior cancer and heart practitioners for quite a while now.
We cannot allow the virus to spread unchecked, that would overwhelm the NHS and people suffering from other illnesses would be even less likely to get the treatment they need. More people were starting to get their treatment when the virus was under control.
Obviously we need to be able to look after everyone who becomes ill, but our NHS hasn't got that ability and it needs a lot more resources to be able to do that.
But the NHS was not overwhelmed ... and when the second wave occurs, we are far more prepared ... plus, at this stage, the signs are that deaths and hospitalisations are likely to be far less.
Covid has displaced everything else. Waiting lists are at an all time high, many people are too scared to get treatments, we are sitting on a health timebomb that will be massively worse then Covid.
It wasn't overwhelmed because of the 'lockdown', however there were many reports of NHS staff being very stretched and we saw pictures on tv of the struggles that staff had. We even had people clapping every Thursday to thank those overworked staff for the work they were doing.
My Italian cousin thinks a big reason Italy are doing so well is the 100% acceptance of mask wearing. Schoolkids have to wear a mask and can only take them off at their desks, if you are eating or drinking you take them off at your table. The rest of the time, you have to have your mask on and people are complying. Apart from the wearing of the masks everything has reached a normality there far beyond what we and other countries are experiencing.
That would make sense in pubs/restaurants as well
So for example if you go to a big pub like a Wetherspoon you wear your mask while walking to your table, to the bar or toilets, but not at your table
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Uniqlo had a security person guarding the door, but his duties didn't include asking people to wear a mask judging from the people entering in front of me
I don't like wearing a mask and I don't know anyone that does but I've long thought it was a decent bit of social etiquette by South East Asian culture to do so when in public so as not to spread germs
Our gut bacteria are screwed anyway by the amount of chemicals on food so our immune systems will be a bit weaker than years gone by and I am appreciating not having a cold for the last 6 months mainly because I've hardly been anywhere
Heres the thing though
From monday we are being told they will marshall/police the more than 6 in a group, so police the mask wearing.
Also, delivery drivers for fast food outlets. Been through a couple with the kids and everyone jumping between different vehicles and gathering in large groups.
So, not 100% compliance, which is a great shame. There'll always be some that think they're exempt from guidelines and doing the right thing.
Anxiety based mental illness for example.
This was supposedly a free country once with a presumption of innocence until proved otherwise.
What happened?
If you can't wear a standard mask then wear one of the clear screens pub staff wear. As has been said, if you have a condition that makes it impossible (not difficult, not uncomfortable, impossible) to wear a mask then you should probably be self-isolating anyway.
41,608 things happened.
Lets follow the rules where we want.
Everyone wear a mask and those with a medical condition and unable stay indoors.
Me and the mrs are walking around a half empty shopping centre without coming into close contact with anyone with our masks on and would say about 90% of others are too.
Although some members of staff in shops were wearing the mask under the chin.
Restaurants were packed with people not wearing masks as obviously you cant wear your mask in a restaurant while eating and drinking and I'm guessing you cant catch covid in them either.
boarding 6 lads could not give a fuck and told the ticket collector they are all exempt - and he asked them if they are walking through train at any time please wear a Mask - they could not give a hoot - and it’s not his job to enforce - good luck - who should enforce it !!!!
We need the economy back on track. People, including members of my family, are losing their jobs. Others, again including members of my family, are overdue for important medical reviews. My grandchildren at primary school have fallen months behind because their head teacher refused to support online schooling.
Two members of my family have been through Covid and had a tough time. But the fact is we can no longer allow this to destroy our economy, schooling and businesses.
learning difficulties,autism plus many other issues to list so am I meant to keep her locked away because she can’t wear a mask?! I’ve gone to the shops with my Daughter just to get essential shopping only since Covid started and the big change I’ve seen since masks were made mandatory is that social distancing has gone out the window for most.Because of my Daughters issues I have to go and shop with her as I’m on my own with her and have no help or other options.Plus I can’t get shopping delivered because if the front door is opened my Daughter believes we are either going out or someone is visiting and when neither happens she has a complete meltdown.So it really isn’t as easy as some of you make it out to be............Walk A Mile In My Shoes!
We cannot carry on like this ... deaths from non-Covid ailments will go through the roof over the next 12 months ...far more than the Covid deaths we have experienced thus far.
And this is not my evaluation ... it has been stated by many senior cancer and heart practitioners for quite a while now.
Obviously we need to be able to look after everyone who becomes ill, but our NHS hasn't got that ability and it needs a lot more resources to be able to do that.
Covid has displaced everything else. Waiting lists are at an all time high, many people are too scared to get treatments, we are sitting on a health timebomb that will be massively worse then Covid.
We’ll take a lot more with us now so we can easily comply.
I agree with that. There will always be a small minority who drink drive, there would have been a minority who refused or could not wear a mask.
Unfortunately the opportunity to build that level of belief in any covid rules has been consistently undermined by high profile avoidance of rules or guidance and conflicting views.
Full mask wearing would need a major reset of government messaging and even then it may be too late without some meaningful enforcement action.
Italy has also recently been placed on the UK amber list as cases creep closer to 20 for 100,000. They are also recording a similar if not slightly higher deaths each day.
So for example if you go to a big pub like a Wetherspoon you wear your mask while walking to your table, to the bar or toilets, but not at your table