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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)
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All this legal bollocks really is in a different world.0
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Bedsaddick said:Valley11 said:What does this mean for the TS deal?0
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ForeverAddickted said:killerandflash said:BR7_addick said:paulie8290 said:ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This time we're badly short in Defence, you'd hope that against Crewe, Doncaster, Lincoln the team should be good enough
At least its not as tough a start as it was facing Sunderland, Peterborough, Shrewsbury
I agree the squad is currently very weak in defence, but when you consider we have Williams, Washington, Gilbey and Aneke to add to yesterday's side, that's a reasonable base to play Crewe2 -
killerandflash said:BR7_addick said:killerandflash said:BR7_addick said:paulie8290 said:ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This was the week to get the squad ready (remember we had 5/6 waiting to be confirmed) and now it will not be ready, simple as that.
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The Euphoria from yesterday's decision has ebbed away from me, At least my good friend Jose Cuervo has promised to be by my side to get me through this next week.0
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Valley11 said:What does this mean for the TS deal?0
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Vfrf said:ForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
What I'm not clear about is what happens in the next week, and whether an appeal can and will be heard in that time and what happens if it isn't.
Today's injunction was given, while yesterday's wasn't, because of the very constrained time period it will be in operation.1 -
Valley11 said:Bedsaddick said:Valley11 said:What does this mean for the TS deal?
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Will wait for LK to issue a statement0
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ForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
Oh never mind, it's Judge Mental, any fecking precedent will do.
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cafcfan said:golfaddick said:Cafc43v3r said:LawrieAbrahams said:golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick0 -
LawrieAbrahams said:Valley11 said:What does this mean for the TS deal?0
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TS gives ESi more then £550,000
What should Nimmer get?.1 -
It might be worth us noting the following- over 1.5million civil cases were heard in 2011, only 1269 cases were filed in the Court of Appeal (Civil, not family or criminal)
It is possible but far from certain that the appeal will be granted.6 -
dickad1 said:Vfrf said:ForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
What I'm not clear about is what happens in the next week, and whether an appeal can and will be heard in that time and what happens if it isn't.
Today's injunction was given, while yesterday's wasn't, because of the very constrained time period it will be in operation.
I think that's right.1 -
What happens if the EFL reject Elliott and the rest of ESI2 under the OADT in the next 7 days?6
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robinofottershaw said:I am sorry but this guy annoys the hell out of me.
You can send him an email about it.
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I will find the right thread!!
They have to get BOTH leave to appeal AND the decision not to grant the longer injunction overturned (or in practice the seven day injunction extended) or #cafc can be sold. That still reduces Lee Bowyer’s transfer headroom before September 12th.
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ForeverAddickted said:I will find the right thread!!
They have to get BOTH leave to appeal AND the decision not to grant the longer injunction overturned (or in practice the seven day injunction extended) or #cafc can be sold. That still reduces Lee Bowyer’s transfer headroom before September 12th.2 -
Scratchingvalleycat said:The judge has given them seven days to seek permission from the Court of Appeal to allow them to lodge an appeal. This will be one appeal judge hearing from a QC that another judge has misled himself to sufficiently misinterpret the situation in the decision he came to. Most of these fail since it is unusual for the appeal court judge to try and second guess the original judge. However, Judge Pearce did not give them the right to appeal to himself which means he has stood by his decision but has given Chaisty a chance to appeal to seek the right to appeal from another judge, but this must be heard within the seven days. Judge Pearce gave as part of his reasoning yesterday that the club itself was at risk if he granted their injuction. This will be noted by the appeal court jusge deciding whether to give Lex Dominus the right to appeal to the Court of Appeal (three judges sitting in several months time). However I think it may be possible for the appeal court judge to grant them right to an appeal but not extend the injunction on the grounds of the damage that would likely cause.
My guess is that this is buying time for his client to try and secure a payment from Sandgaaed to go away. Unintentional legalised blackmail?
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Callumcafc said:ForeverAddickted said:I will find the right thread!!
They have to get BOTH leave to appeal AND the decision not to grant the longer injunction overturned (or in practice the seven day injunction extended) or #cafc can be sold. That still reduces Lee Bowyer’s transfer headroom before September 12th.0 -
GoOnYouHaddocks said:All this legal bollocks really is in a different world.7
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ForeverAddickted said:Miserableoldgit said:ForeverAddickted said:Hearing is brought to a close by Judge Pearce.
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Dizzle said:What happens if the EFL reject Elliott and the rest of ESI2 under the OADT in the next 7 days?
I guess they could argue that they should have the right to sell the club in that instance as they'll continue to claim that they own it1 -
There's this whole separate world going on called the legal profession, these people making fortunes out of others' misery, and they create absolutely nothing for the real world. Hate lawyers.1
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golfaddick said:dickad1 said:Vfrf said:ForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
What I'm not clear about is what happens in the next week, and whether an appeal can and will be heard in that time and what happens if it isn't.
Today's injunction was given, while yesterday's wasn't, because of the very constrained time period it will be in operation.
I think that's right.
If they keep varying the injunction then effectively they have got what they didn't get yesterday in small increments.
Presumably there are some legal experts on here who can take us through the potential scenarios.0 -
Clarky said:Scratchingvalleycat said:The judge has given them seven days to seek permission from the Court of Appeal to allow them to lodge an appeal. This will be one appeal judge hearing from a QC that another judge has misled himself to sufficiently misinterpret the situation in the decision he came to. Most of these fail since it is unusual for the appeal court judge to try and second guess the original judge. However, Judge Pearce did not give them the right to appeal to himself which means he has stood by his decision but has given Chaisty a chance to appeal to seek the right to appeal from another judge, but this must be heard within the seven days. Judge Pearce gave as part of his reasoning yesterday that the club itself was at risk if he granted their injuction. This will be noted by the appeal court jusge deciding whether to give Lex Dominus the right to appeal to the Court of Appeal (three judges sitting in several months time). However I think it may be possible for the appeal court judge to grant them right to an appeal but not extend the injunction on the grounds of the damage that would likely cause.
My guess is that this is buying time for his client to try and secure a payment from Sandgaaed to go away. Unintentional legalised blackmail?
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ross1 said:ForeverAddickted said:Miserableoldgit said:ForeverAddickted said:Hearing is brought to a close by Judge Pearce.
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Cafc43v3r said:cafcfan said:golfaddick said:Cafc43v3r said:LawrieAbrahams said:golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick1 -
WattsTheMatter said:Cafc43v3r said:cafcfan said:golfaddick said:Cafc43v3r said:LawrieAbrahams said:golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick0
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