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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)
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the appeal isn't a hearing, a Judge reviews all the documentary evidence. If he decides to give them leave to appeal then I'd assume they'd ask for the temporary injunction to be extended.mattinfinland said:I think everyone is jumping the gun a little.
They won't get an appeal heard in 7 days.
Week today I think Sandgaard will have a small window to buy the club between the end of a temporary induction and the apeal going ahead0 -
The Court of Appeal won't examine the case next WednesdayLargeAddick said:
it's to appeal to the Court of Appeal to allow them to appeal the injunction decisionkillerandflash said:
The week is to appeal to the court of appeal to get a date, not to have the actual hearing there. Any hearing would be months, even a year awaySELR_addicks said:
This. Even knowledge of a date at the court of appeals will mean they can grant extra time.Bedsaddick said:There is probably something that they will come up with on the 9th to prevent it further more . It’s bloody ridiculous
It's an injunction and the judge has basically fully backtracked on his verdict yesterday.
It's incredibly unlikely to be granted
The week is to allow Lex to appeal to the Court of Appeal to get a hearing in the first place. The likelihood is that this will be rejected1 -
Judge awards Panorama costs of £20,430.
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Yup, my thinking exactly... Contract will be there now ready to signmattinfinland said:I think everyone is jumping the gun a little.
They won't get an appeal heard in 7 days.
Week today I think Sandgaard will have a small window to buy the club between the end of a temporary induction and the apeal going ahead0 -
Exactly.Bedsaddick said:
It will be weeks. The EFL are unlikely to stop the embargo as soon as there is a takeover. They take weeks or months to make judgment on anything .MarcusH26 said:This absolutely bizarre, what's with all the pathetic delaying tactics when there's a willing buyer waiting to complete? Another week without signings now too
The EFL take longer to make a decision than ELF takes to have a shit2 -
Front row seats for me , thats where i work !LawrieAbrahams said:
The RCJ is the building where the Court of Appeal is based.golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??0 -
Chaisty asks for stay on costs pending a final determination based on an appeal, if allowed, as recovery from Panorama would be difficult if the decision was overturned.
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The embargo is in because there isn't proof of funds, once that's satisfied they'll lift the embargo.
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As well as the 5-6 players Bowyer and Gallen have lined up. They may all decide to join someone else now.The Red Robin said:Could be enough of a delay to lose Phillips and Matthews though.1 -
no, it's going to the Court of Appeal. No hearing, just a Judge reviewing the documentary evidence and deciding to allow the appeal or not.cafcledbury said:Will we have the same judge next week.1 -
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I'd guess so, to allow the actual appeal to be heardLeeds_Addick said:
If court of appeal say they can appeal then will there be an additional injunction on top of the 7 days?LargeAddick said:
it's to appeal to the Court of Appeal to allow them to appeal the injunction decisionkillerandflash said:
The week is to appeal to the court of appeal to get a date, not to have the actual hearing there. Any hearing would be months, even a year awaySELR_addicks said:
This. Even knowledge of a date at the court of appeals will mean they can grant extra time.Bedsaddick said:There is probably something that they will come up with on the 9th to prevent it further more . It’s bloody ridiculous
It's an injunction and the judge has basically fully backtracked on his verdict yesterday.
It's incredibly unlikely to be granted0 -
The judge has given them seven days to seek permission from the Court of Appeal to allow them to lodge an appeal. This will be one appeal judge hearing from a QC that another judge has misled himself to sufficiently misinterpret the situation in the decision he came to. Most of these fail since it is unusual for the appeal court judge to try and second guess the original judge. However, Judge Pearce did not give them the right to appeal to himself which means he has stood by his decision but has given Chaisty a chance to appeal to seek the right to appeal from another judge, but this must be heard within the seven days. Judge Pearce gave as part of his reasoning yesterday that the club itself was at risk if he granted their injuction. This will be noted by the appeal court jusge deciding whether to give Lex Dominus the right to appeal to the Court of Appeal (three judges sitting in several months time). However I think it may be possible for the appeal court judge to grant them right to an appeal but not extend the injunction on the grounds of the damage that would likely cause.
My guess is that this is buying time for his client to try and secure a payment from Sandgaaed to go away.10 -
Tomorrow is just about costs and stuff about 98% of the board said yesterday!7
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Really though today was just to decide costs.......I wish we were warned the judge could backtrack his decision albeit temporarily.8
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House of Lords, it won't get in front of the ECJ in time......LawrieAbrahams said:
The RCJ is the building where the Court of Appeal is based.golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick0 -
So potentially they could make their appeal to the CoA tomorrow, presumably nothing is nailed down to happen in 7 days time, thats just a window for Elliott to make his appeal0
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They'll drag out the seven days... Of that I'm certain, whats in it for them to rush?MattF said:So potentially they could make their appeal to the CoA tomorrow, presumably nothing is nailed down to happen in 7 days time, thats just a window for Elliott to make his appeal1 -
I have nothing but contempt for anyone who would post such a shitty, condescending, self-congratulatory meme. And that's before considering that it looks a bit too Millwall for my liking.limeygent said:This is on Farnell's Facebook page.
I can't possibly commit to type what I hope happens to Farnell.5 -
So what are all the possible outcomes over the next week?0
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so who pays legal costs to Panorama?0
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Hearing is brought to a close by Judge Pearce.
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At the moment Lex I think, if they win their appeal then Panorama pay LexRedJohn said:so who pays legal costs to Panorama?0 -
I am so down after yesterday feel like a massive kick in the nuts.
I can not describe my hatred for all in this ESI 1 and 2.
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That’s my understandingForeverAddickted said:
At the moment Lex I think, if they win their appeal then Panorama pay LexRedJohn said:so who pays legal costs to Panorama?1 -
I wouldn't bet on it.......this us CAFC don't forget.killerandflash said:
The Court of Appeal won't examine the case next WednesdayLargeAddick said:
it's to appeal to the Court of Appeal to allow them to appeal the injunction decisionkillerandflash said:
The week is to appeal to the court of appeal to get a date, not to have the actual hearing there. Any hearing would be months, even a year awaySELR_addicks said:
This. Even knowledge of a date at the court of appeals will mean they can grant extra time.Bedsaddick said:There is probably something that they will come up with on the 9th to prevent it further more . It’s bloody ridiculous
It's an injunction and the judge has basically fully backtracked on his verdict yesterday.
It's incredibly unlikely to be granted
The week is to allow Lex to appeal to the Court of Appeal to get a hearing in the first place. The likelihood is that this will be rejected
My betting is that the COA will grant an appeal & therefore the injunction will not only stay in force but will be extended until an appeal is heard, which could be months.
We are screwed. Anyone who thought Judge John Deed yesterday was on our side had better think again. Only needed a nudge from their lawyer today to get him to Google what's going on with regard to the takeover & he bends over & let's them shaft him. Would have been better yesterday to bring it all up then, even if you couldnt.
The law is an ass4 -
It really doesn'tBR7_addick said:
This, this week was massive regarding the squad and it’s gone now, Bowyer still toying between which under 17 will make the bench at crewe, this week injunction could set us back a season or two, you might think I’m being dramatic, but we now start the season with our worst squad for years.paulie8290 said:
No but our season will be.ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
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so they think its a worth while gamble that this is settled before or they win?stonemuse said:
That’s my understandingForeverAddickted said:
At the moment Lex I think, if they win their appeal then Panorama pay LexRedJohn said:so who pays legal costs to Panorama?0 -
The whole lot of them are a load of slime bugs, really hope they all end up in jail where they belong.5
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Was ridiculous that the judge let them ignore the takeover yesterday yet use it as evidence todaygolfaddick said:
I wouldn't bet on it.......this us CAFC don't forget.killerandflash said:
The Court of Appeal won't examine the case next WednesdayLargeAddick said:
it's to appeal to the Court of Appeal to allow them to appeal the injunction decisionkillerandflash said:
The week is to appeal to the court of appeal to get a date, not to have the actual hearing there. Any hearing would be months, even a year awaySELR_addicks said:
This. Even knowledge of a date at the court of appeals will mean they can grant extra time.Bedsaddick said:There is probably something that they will come up with on the 9th to prevent it further more . It’s bloody ridiculous
It's an injunction and the judge has basically fully backtracked on his verdict yesterday.
It's incredibly unlikely to be granted
The week is to allow Lex to appeal to the Court of Appeal to get a hearing in the first place. The likelihood is that this will be rejected
My betting is that the COA will grant an appeal & therefore the injunction will not only stay in force but will be extended until an appeal is heard, which could be months.
We are screwed. Anyone who thought Judge John Deed yesterday was on our side had better think again. Only needed a nudge from their lawyer today to get him to Google what's going on with regard to the takeover & he bends over & let's them shaft him. Would have been better yesterday to bring it all up then, even if you couldnt.
The law is an ass
Nothing has changed despite MM's statement on the OS - It remains press speculation1
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