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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)
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So Chaisty won that one, but it feels like he is 1-0 up in injury time of the second leg, having gone down 3-0 in the first.
I'm guessing as a consequence of today there won't be so much in the public domain from the club or TS over the next week.2 -
His wife is safe tonight thenStig said:
I have nothing but contempt for anyone who would post such a shitty, condescending, self-congratulatory meme. And that's before considering that it looks a bit too Millwall for my liking.limeygent said:This is on Farnell's Facebook page.
I can't possibly commit to type what I hope happens to Farnell.4 -
The longer they delay, the more chance they believe they have of getting part of Sandgaard’s money.roseandcrown said:
so they think its a worth while gamble that this is settled before or they win?stonemuse said:
That’s my understandingForeverAddickted said:
At the moment Lex I think, if they win their appeal then Panorama pay LexRedJohn said:so who pays legal costs to Panorama?0 -
I've had enough of this already, how people do it is beyond me.1
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Well I'm not going to sleep for a week then, have no trust in the Court of Appeal to refuse them0
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He's getting struck off in the morning.Stig said:
I have nothing but contempt for anyone who would post such a shitty, condescending, self-congratulatory meme. And that's before considering that it looks a bit too Millwall for my liking.limeygent said:This is on Farnell's Facebook page.
I can't possibly commit to type what I hope happens to Farnell.0 -
Only difference between this year and that is the fact we had quite a balanced squad to put out against Sunderlandkillerandflash said:
It really doesn'tBR7_addick said:
This, this week was massive regarding the squad and it’s gone now, Bowyer still toying between which under 17 will make the bench at crewe, this week injunction could set us back a season or two, you might think I’m being dramatic, but we now start the season with our worst squad for years.paulie8290 said:
No but our season will be.ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This time we're badly short in Defence, you'd hope that against Crewe, Doncaster, Lincoln the team should be good enough
At least its not as tough a start as it was facing Sunderland, Peterborough, Shrewsbury0 -
scumbags the lot of them....will get their comeuppance0
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Has LK commented on what this means?0
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Let’s take the Rose tints off for a sec, what bowyer did 18/19 was borderline miraculous. And he didn’t have a transfer embargo.killerandflash said:
It really doesn'tBR7_addick said:
This, this week was massive regarding the squad and it’s gone now, Bowyer still toying between which under 17 will make the bench at crewe, this week injunction could set us back a season or two, you might think I’m being dramatic, but we now start the season with our worst squad for years.paulie8290 said:
No but our season will be.ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This was the week to get the squad ready (remember we had 5/6 waiting to be confirmed) and now it will not be ready, simple as that.4 -
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Yep, thought there was another strand to it all. Got an O level in Economic & Public Affairs 37 years ago but couldnt remember what was next after COA.Cafc43v3r said:
House of Lords, it won't get in front of the ECJ in time......LawrieAbrahams said:
The RCJ is the building where the Court of Appeal is based.golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
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Changed me mind he's the same as the rest of the pricksblackpool72 said:I don't normally have a lot of time for judges.
But I'm loving him.3 -
Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
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This is what makes me fear for the appeal being successful.ForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.
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Which is exactly why the judge should have told him to piss offForeverAddickted said:Chaisty went from arguing yesterday that there was no evidence of an imminent sale of #CAFC so no detriment from an injunction to pointing to media reports today that a sale was imminent meaning his client’s right to apply to appeal needed protection.3 -
Elliott has no choice but to push it all the way ... he is seriously in debt nowgolfaddick said:
Yep, thought there was another strand to it all. Got an O level in Economic & Public Affairs 37 years ago but couldnt remember what was next after COA.Cafc43v3r said:
House of Lords, it won't get in front of the ECJ in time......LawrieAbrahams said:
The RCJ is the building where the Court of Appeal is based.golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick1 -
So we now have an injunction that prevents the sale of the club until 4pm next Wednesday - unless either side succeed in an application to vary it in the meantime. I can’t see the latter.
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Of course it's not good news, but a delay of a few days is annoying rather than a catastrophe. It's not as the takeover was likely to happen before Friday at the earliestBR7_addick said:
Let’s take the Rose tints off for a sec, what bowyer did 18/19 was borderline miraculous. And he didn’t have a transfer embargo.killerandflash said:
It really doesn'tBR7_addick said:
This, this week was massive regarding the squad and it’s gone now, Bowyer still toying between which under 17 will make the bench at crewe, this week injunction could set us back a season or two, you might think I’m being dramatic, but we now start the season with our worst squad for years.paulie8290 said:
No but our season will be.ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This was the week to get the squad ready (remember we had 5/6 waiting to be confirmed) and now it will not be ready, simple as that.
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What does this mean for the TS deal?0
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Nope. The Supreme Court replaced the House of Lords as the final arbiters in 2009.golfaddick said:
Yep, thought there was another strand to it all. Got an O level in Economic & Public Affairs 37 years ago but couldnt remember what was next after COA.Cafc43v3r said:
House of Lords, it won't get in front of the ECJ in time......LawrieAbrahams said:
The RCJ is the building where the Court of Appeal is based.golfaddick said:So, if I have this right.
PE wanted to stop the sale of the club so wants an injunction.
Injunction denied.
PE appeals that decision.
Appeal denied.
Appeals the appeal to the Court of Appeal.
Granted.
Why the feck not just go straight to the top in the first place.
I hasten to add I don't think the Court of Appeal is the furthest they can go. Royal Court of Justice ??
Sorry that was in answer to @golfaddick2 -
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Problem is the COA judge is most likely some old duffer who has no knowledge or interest in football, the transfer system or even that we could get thrown out of the League if we dont get funding. That will all pass him by. He'll mutter to himself for 10 mins & then grant the appeal on the basis that " the old fellow was done over by that pretty young thing & her presence put off poor old Judge Pearce - poor bloke didn't know if he coming or going & obviously made the wrong call. Cant have young filly's winning cases you know.....not good for the old boys club. Appeal granted"Scratchingvalleycat said:The judge has given them seven days to seek permission from the Court of Appeal to allow them to lodge an appeal. This will be one appeal judge hearing from a QC that another judge has misled himself to sufficiently misinterpret the situation in the decision he came to. Most of these fail since it is unusual for the appeal court judge to try and second guess the original judge. However, Judge Pearce did not give them the right to appeal to himself which means he has stood by his decision but has given Chaisty a chance to appeal to seek the right to appeal from another judge, but this must be heard within the seven days. Judge Pearce gave as part of his reasoning yesterday that the club itself was at risk if he granted their injuction. This will be noted by the appeal court jusge deciding whether to give Lex Dominus the right to appeal to the Court of Appeal (three judges sitting in several months time). However I think it may be possible for the appeal court judge to grant them right to an appeal but not extend the injunction on the grounds of the damage that would likely cause.
My guess is that this is buying time for his client to try and secure a payment from Sandgaaed to go away. Unintentional legalised blackmail?1 -
I'd even question if the takeover was going to happen this weekkillerandflash said:
Of course it's not good news, but a delay of a few days is annoying rather than a catastrophe. It's not as the takeover was likely to happen before Friday at the earliestBR7_addick said:
Let’s take the Rose tints off for a sec, what bowyer did 18/19 was borderline miraculous. And he didn’t have a transfer embargo.killerandflash said:
It really doesn'tBR7_addick said:
This, this week was massive regarding the squad and it’s gone now, Bowyer still toying between which under 17 will make the bench at crewe, this week injunction could set us back a season or two, you might think I’m being dramatic, but we now start the season with our worst squad for years.paulie8290 said:
No but our season will be.ForeverAddickted said:The judge has effectively said that he doesn't believe Sandgaard's interest in buying Charlton will be affected by a short delay.
Less time to get new players in
The 5 players Bowyer has lined up may ho elsewhere
Matthews may go elsewhere.
Seriously what is the point in holding up the sale, all its gonna do is mess up our season
There will still be 40 games to go by the time the window closes. And then there's the January window
We couldn't fill our bench when we played Sunderland 2 years ago, but brought in several players after the season started
This was the week to get the squad ready (remember we had 5/6 waiting to be confirmed) and now it will not be ready, simple as that.
I trust the sources of FlyingKiwiDK and DubaiCAFC but TS has said for the last three weeks that he's hoped to get a deal across the line each week2 -
ForeverAddickted said:
Nah am alright thanks!! - Once this is all done I dont want to hear any of these names againbobmunro said:
He's very likely to be the man Elliot will owe the money to - so not on our side at the moment but may well be on our side eventually. My enemy's enemy and all that.fat man on a moped said:Mohamed el Kasahasly is in the meeting, sound familiar but can't remember which side he's on
Not even along the lines of 'Mr and Mrs Mouthall have divorced after her house was reposessed to pay off his creditors'?
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We've already discussed this, this is my department and please don't lump me in with those wankers, @JamesSeed!JamesSeed said:blackpool72 said:Yet another week goes by with our transfer embargo in place.
Fuck off Elliott and die a painful death you corrupt peice of shit.
If he’s closed down and asset stripped a girls‘ boarding school he won’t bat an eyelid at destroying an historic London club to make himself a few million quid. I suspect he has a personality disorder.Psychopath.0 -
Thanks for the updates, though it was difficult to follow them inbetween all the speculation.ForeverAddickted said:Hearing is brought to a close by Judge Pearce.
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Lex Domjnus is seeking leave to appeal the refusal of an injunction that would have prevented the club being sold before a full trial in late November. The judge refused leave.
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Thanks for sharing the updates again @ForeverAddickted1
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I have no idea what's going on, i've never felt so stupid in my life!1
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Nobody can possibly answer that.Valley11 said:What does this mean for the TS deal?0 -
I'll put them in bold next time as well - Might help a bit moreMiserableoldgit said:
Thanks for the updates, though it was difficult to follow them inbetween all the speculation.ForeverAddickted said:Hearing is brought to a close by Judge Pearce.
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