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Lincoln City v Charlton Athletic | Post-match thread | Sunday 27th September

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    edited September 2020
    First half I thought we looked like a  good side apart from our finishing. Second half we were dreadful. Very similar to the Donny game where we were much the better side until they scored. I suppose the answer is to score first.
    See my stats above. Until that changes then as soon as we go 1-0 down you might as well turn off iplayer & do something else.

    Yesterday game resembled our 2-0 loss at Plymouth a few seasons ago. Should have been 2 up before they score & then look devoid of ideas after that. At least yesterday we weren't there in person to have to endure the long trek home - unlike the Plymouth game.

    EDIT. Just checked back to the play-off winning season. We beat Luton at home 3-1 after going 1-0 down - we were also losing 1-0 at half time. That was the last league game (ignoring play off final) that we have gone behind & won. 54 games ago. But things are going to be just fine & dandy now as the transfer embargo has lifted & we have players falling over themselves to join us. Once we have those 6/7/8 players it we will be a different team 

    And yes @jimmymelrose - I will take up your bet. We wont have more than 15 points after 12 games. 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,753
    edited September 2020
    Ha ha ha.

    It's a steal bro.

    I have faith in Bowyer and things are gonna change quickly.

    As you say yourself: Past performance is not a guarantee of future performance, or something like that.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    edited September 2020

    WOW JFC non-existent!

    Bonne and Washington almost the same as one another. 

    Pratley outstanding passing. Even if it was 47 short passes and one poor long pass. 

    Successful passes into the 18 yd box from outside:

    Levitt 2
    Barker 2
    Doughty 3
    Oshilaja 1
    Washington 1

    We managed a successful pass into the 18 yard box 9 times. that for me is piss poor.

    Things will improve. and you mustn't forget that we've had less time to prepare for this season than 21 of the 23 other sides.  
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    edited September 2020
    Reality bites hard. Lincoln may have been two divisions apart last season, but we had a relegation side and they had a promotion side. They learned how to grind out wins each week and we ground out defeats. Since last season they have strengthened and we have lost 10 Championship experienced players. What we have now is probably not a squad that will be successful. Bowyer knows that, Sandgaard knows that and we as fans know that. We have prayed and dreamed of getting to this point off the pitch. The on pitch stuff will come, but not before much work is undertaken. 

    To use a gardening analogy, we have a garden filled with weeds but amongst them are some beautiful trees, shrubs and plants. One weekend of weeding and digging isn't going to clear that mess that has taken years of neglect to develop. With a few years of work the rewards will be clear. Will it be a show winning garden, who knows? But it will be much better than it has looked in a long time!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited September 2020
    Sadly for the ref he was let down by his assistant. If as reported, the assistant was not up with the play so couldn't call their player offside, there is not much the ref could do. I think it affected his performance a bit in the second half as he would have been aware of what happened. I reckon the ref would probably have been livid that it happened.

    Given the circumstances, it was an error from the assistant that might see him being demoted as it was not up to professional game levels. What makes it more unforgiveable was that this stemmed from the penalty so there is absolutely no reason he shouldn't have been in position to see it. 
  • The verdict of my Lincoln supporting mate when I spoke to him this morning:

    "Charlton were really good until we scored, then they appeared to give up."

  • Watched the game and totally agree with Bowyer we should have been 4-0 by 40 minutes.
    Lincoln's first Goal was yards off side as their manager  confirmed afterwards.
    I also think Amos should have saved their Second instead of just Standing there motionless.
    i agree that Bonne was poor and slow but I do think he will I prove greatly when we have a few more experienced signings around him.

    i also think due to the fact we missed or squandered so many changes we made Lincoln look a lot better than they actually are ........onwards and upwards with TS 👍👍👍🥂🥂🥂
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    1968CAFC said:
    Watched the game and totally agree with Bowyer we should have been 4-0 by 40 minutes.
    Lincoln's first Goal was yards off side as their manager  confirmed afterwards.
    I also think Amos should have saved their Second instead of just Standing there motionless.
    i agree that Bonne was poor and slow but I do think he will I prove greatly when we have a few more experienced signings around him.

    i also think due to the fact we missed or squandered so many changes we made Lincoln look a lot better than they actually are ........onwards and upwards with TS 👍👍👍🥂🥂🥂
    In fairness to Amos he was backpeddling to get in position for the ball to come back across goal. He didn't expect our most experienced player to not even challenge for it. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,643
    edited September 2020
    Reality bites hard. Lincoln may have been two divisions apart last season, but we had a relegation side and they had a promotion side. They learned how to grind out wins each week and we ground out defeats. Since last season they have strengthened and we have lost 10 Championship experienced players. What we have now is probably not a squad that will be successful. Bowyer knows that, Sandgaard knows that and we as fans know that. We have prayed and dreamed of getting to this point off the pitch. The on pitch stuff will come, but not before much work is undertaken. 

    To use a gardening analogy, we have a garden filled with weeds but amongst them are some beautiful trees, shrubs and plants. One weekend of weeding and digging isn't going to clear that mess that has taken years of neglect to develop. With a few years of work the rewards will be clear. Will it be a show winning garden, who knows? But it will be much better than it has looked in a long time!

     Sorry, but it is simpler than that. We were the better & more dominant side for 44 mins. We didnt take our only real chance (Washington) and were also a bit unlucky with a couple of blocked shots & deflections. They got their noses in front by aid of the officials & then in the 2nd half we not only couldnt break them down we ran out of ideas. Then we brought on JFC when we needed to go for it......just about sums it up.

    If we had scored with Washington's effort I reckon we would have gone on to win quite comfortably.......not scoring 4's & 5's but a 2-0 scoreline like the Crewe game. We were too good for them until they scored & we had to chase the game. 

  • Reality bites hard. Lincoln may have been two divisions apart last season, but we had a relegation side and they had a promotion side. They learned how to grind out wins each week and we ground out defeats. Since last season they have strengthened and we have lost 10 Championship experienced players. What we have now is probably not a squad that will be successful. Bowyer knows that, Sandgaard knows that and we as fans know that. We have prayed and dreamed of getting to this point off the pitch. The on pitch stuff will come, but not before much work is undertaken. 

    To use a gardening analogy, we have a garden filled with weeds but amongst them are some beautiful trees, shrubs and plants. One weekend of weeding and digging isn't going to clear that mess that has taken years of neglect to develop. With a few years of work the rewards will be clear. Will it be a show winning garden, who knows? But it will be much better than it has looked in a long time!
    Lincoln were in L1 last season and have won every game this season except Liverpool, they're a form side

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  • I didn't watch the match, but unless the highlights give a misleading impression, where are the sitters that Bonne is supposed to have missed?

    During the lockdown 9 game period I never felt that finishing was our biggest problem - a lower Championship striker is never going to have the same stats as a Vardy or Aguero - it was the lack of creativity which was more of an issue, and without Gilbey we seem to lack someone to open up defences with a bit of vision. With Pratley or Watson to do the dirty work, surely someone like Morgan would be a better bet than say JFC, as he at least does have some creativity about him
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,957
    Since the start of the season - 1 win in 3
    Since the resumption in June - 3 wins in 12
    Since the start of the year - 6 wins in 24.

    Need I go on ?  

    That's 1 win every 4 games. And from a pretty large sample for the boys saying "give it time" or "look at the table after 12 games"

    Yes we had injuries in Jan & couldn't strengthen due to the embargo. Yes we couldnt strengthen after relegation. 

    So, now we have Thomas the Saviour. We have 3 weeks until the transfer window closes. We have 7 matches in October (less if games are called off due to international call ups). How many points do you think we will have after the magical 12 games ??

    The above stats say only 2 more wins. I'll push the boat out and say 3 from the next 9 games plus a couple of draws. Let's be generous and say 3 draws......so an even 3,3,&3. 

    15 points from 12 games. Probably enough to be out of the bottom 4 but not enough for the top half.

    Oh what joy.



    Oiii Golfie!!!!!!!!! @golfaddick

    I bet you a tenner that we'll have more than 15 points after 12 games, you pessimistic wallybrain.

    Put your money where your mouth is.

    With Love, jimmymelrose
    Post of the day. Pissed myself laughing ha ha




  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Magnificent? I think he has confused us with another team. 
  • He does seem slightly smitten with us!


  • We're going to end up being the ultimate consortium arent we? 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,786
    How bloody bizarre
  • He does seem slightly smitten with us!


  • He does seem slightly smitten with us!


    Sounds like a love lost teenager, or the bride jilted at
    the alter, how will he ever cope without us, sad ;)


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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    Magnificent? I think he has confused us with another team. 

    He must be talking about Cafc who have sold their best youngsters for years and Danny Murphy played for ?
  • I didn't watch the match, but unless the highlights give a misleading impression, where are the sitters that Bonne is supposed to have missed?

    During the lockdown 9 game period I never felt that finishing was our biggest problem - a lower Championship striker is never going to have the same stats as a Vardy or Aguero - it was the lack of creativity which was more of an issue, and without Gilbey we seem to lack someone to open up defences with a bit of vision. With Pratley or Watson to do the dirty work, surely someone like Morgan would be a better bet than say JFC, as he at least does have some creativity about him
    Bonne didn’t miss any sitters.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,336
    Will never forget the Bonne sitter against a Brum
  • ct_addick said:
    Will never forget the Bonne sitter against a Brum
    Lee Camp equally wouldnt have been doing his job though had he not stopped it, wasnt a standard save from him
  • ct_addick said:
    Will never forget the Bonne sitter against a Brum
    Lee Camp equally wouldnt have been doing his job though had he not stopped it, wasnt a standard save from him
    And strikers do miss chances or have them saved, even the world class ones
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,809
    We've done very well with our recruitment but Michael Appleton must have a pretty good scouting network to pick up Lewis Montsma. He was playing last season in the Dutch 2nd tier and was signed pre season on a free.

    He has scored in no less than six games this season including in this game against us - and not one of them penalties. We'd give our right arm for a striker as prolific as that. The thing is though, he's a defender!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    ct_addick said:
    Will never forget the Bonne sitter against a Brum
    Lee Camp equally wouldnt have been doing his job though had he not stopped it, wasnt a standard save from him
    And strikers do miss chances or have them saved, even the world class ones
    All I ever see is that Bonne shouldn't have missed this, that or the other chance. I think people forget all the ones Taylor missed, difference was the amount Taylor put away and it's not fair to compare the two as they were at very different points in their careers with Taylor in his prime & Bonne just picking up pace.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    First half I thought we looked like a  good side apart from our finishing. Second half we were dreadful. Very similar to the Donny game where we were much the better side until they scored. I suppose the answer is to score first.
    See my stats above. Until that changes then as soon as we go 1-0 down you might as well turn off iplayer & do something else.

    Yesterday game resembled our 2-0 loss at Plymouth a few seasons ago. Should have been 2 up before they score & then look devoid of ideas after that. At least yesterday we weren't there in person to have to endure the long trek home - unlike the Plymouth game.

    EDIT. Just checked back to the play-off winning season. We beat Luton at home 3-1 after going 1-0 down - we were also losing 1-0 at half time. That was the last league game (ignoring play off final) that we have gone behind & won. 54 games ago. But things are going to be just fine & dandy now as the transfer embargo has lifted & we have players falling over themselves to join us. Once we have those 6/7/8 players it we will be a different team 

    And yes @jimmymelrose - I will take up your bet. We wont have more than 15 points after 12 games. 
    Nuff said.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    @jimmymelrose
    @golfaddick

    has the bet been settled?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Chunes said:
    I know Bowyer will say “We didn’t take our chances we could’ve been 2 or 3 up first half,” but he says that too much. We just got soundly beaten by a league two side.
    Even Lincoln looked better going forward.
    Lincoln the best side in the league still at this point... Just saying, sometimes when you don't look good is because the other side make it so.