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Ged Roddy MBE appointed as Technical Director - resigned (p26)
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well, if he has no input into team matters, what t f is he paid for ?Dazzler21 said:
Has it?Lincsaddick said:so far his 'technical direction' has led to the team tumbling out of control !
Do we know that his technical direction has been anything to do with on pitch matters of recent?1 -
It was going tits up long before Roddy turned upLincsaddick said:so far his 'technical direction' has led to the team tumbling out of control !3 -
Technical Director of football or Technical Director of setting up all aspects of the football club, from academy to first team ? I don’t know but I expect it’s the latter with a remit to lay the foundations for moving forward.Lincsaddick said:
well, if he has no input into team matters, what t f is he paid for ?Dazzler21 said:
Has it?Lincsaddick said:so far his 'technical direction' has led to the team tumbling out of control !
Do we know that his technical direction has been anything to do with on pitch matters of recent?1 -
I'd say he's probably not started on it yet. He'll be assessing and monitoring things.
His role was defined as:
His primary focus will be planning and implementing the club’s long-term footballing strategy with the initial aim of helping the club stabilise and ultimately getting the club back to the Premier League.
Reading that back maybe it's a case of he's doing what he can to support Bowyer and create stability before we push on...
I have no idea, but I hope whatever is going on is solely for the benefit of the club and the fans.2 -
he was appointed in October 2020, during that month we were unbeaten .. it seems that things went 'tits up' from November 2020 when we started on this inconsistent/awful spell of results that has gradually got worse ..Bedsaddick said:
It was going tits up long before Roddy turned upLincsaddick said:so far his 'technical direction' has led to the team tumbling out of control !
I'm not saying that Roddy is responsible for this as I have no idea of his role at CAFC .. what I'd like to know is what, if anything, he is doing has done or is supposed to be doing to stop the rot .. who is responsible for the performance of Bowyer, ? if it's Roddy then he should have sacked Bowyer weeks ago .. if 'Director of Football' is a role designed to plot and plan the future of the club from root to branch, he'd better get a move on while there is still a club and, importantly, the cash to carry out some grandiose plans. Geddy's last EFL role didn't go too well did it ?. Is he just an armchair general ?4 -
It's not Lord Bowyer the Benevolent it must be Ged Roddy.
He's Technical Director, Gallen is DoF.
He worked for FIFA and was rewarded with an MBE for it, had a bad end to his time at Reading, but not sure he's had a role with the EFL.0 -
I think Ged's managerial apogee was Team Bath. Then an in house job at the FA followed by the sack at Reading academy.
Bowyer played for England, was a leading Premier League player for a decade, and in the second term of his first managerial role secured promotion. Immediately relegated as a result of budget limitations, this year is one of rebuilding and, at a push, a play off spot (though that was an aspiration, not an expectation, at the start of the season).
The last few weeks have been shocking. Nevertheless, I'm pleased to be a minority voice in supporting Bowyer through this season and the start of next.13 -
I would certainly give Bows the rest of the season, but expect a huge improvement in performance and cohesiveness if he's to get another season, even if the playoffs have gone.4
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The issue with that, is if we end up having to bring in another manager, they will have to start afresh with their own transfer targets to replace the players leaving, alongside having to get to know the contracted players. If Powell didn't have the half a season before the promotion push, I doubt he would have been able to build the squad he did. For me there are two options, get a new manager in and planning for next season, or let it be known that Bowyer will be given the opportunity to build a new squad for next season and have a run at promotion, regardless of what happens this season.IdleHans said:I would certainly give Bows the rest of the season, but expect a huge improvement in performance and cohesiveness if he's to get another season, even if the playoffs have gone.1 -
TS is no mug, yes he embraces social media a bit to much but he’s not got to where he has blindly. I haven’t a scooby on his closeness to either Roddy or Bowyer but suspect he has made similar calls throughout his career on his managerial team, and no doubt a decision shall be made soon. Personally I think he views Charlton very much like the building of a sporting empire as in Bristol under Lansdown.I might be wrong, I might be right, my money though is on a multi sport facilty, stadia, empire with nearby excellent training facilities in SE London. Yes I know RD still holds the keys but with success on the field, a clear strategic vision and subsequent investment he can grab the keys from RD.0
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Seeing this thread pop up reminded me that when he started the gym was a tent and we did not have enough cones and manakins. I know this was an area he was looking at.Does anyone know if any work or improvements have happened at the training ground or what plans there are?2
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Redrobo said:Seeing this thread pop up reminded me that when he started the gym was a tent and we did not have enough cones and manakins. I know this was an area he was looking at.Does anyone know if any work or improvements have happened at the training ground or what plans there are?
Yeah he got a bigger tent. It was his marquee signing.
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Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).7
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I don’t think it’s an issue if Bowyer and Roddy both report into Sandgaard.Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).Their remits can be vastly different.
Whilst Bowyer oversees the on the pitch operation, Roddy is managing the overall football based architecture across the club. Their responsibilities don’t need to cross over too much if they don’t have to (ie - Roddy isn’t going to be interfering in which formation we play, and Bowyer probably won’t be having a say in youth recruitment programs).With that said, doesn’t mean Roddy won’t be relied upon to report back to TS as an ‘eyes and ears’ guy. I can’t see Roddy being someone who can be held responsible for recent results.3 -
Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).
To progress the business side of the club we need a CEO but that may take some time to get the right person in. Having one would also make TS life easier with having one point of contact to sort out issues.
Having no CEO at this moment in time has no impact on results or performances though1 -
I’d say Roddy and Gallen crossover more. Gallen was director of football, wasn’t he?
Roddy ‘technical director’.1 -
But that sort of defeats the whole point of Roddy being there. Isn't the whole point to create an "identity" so the whole of the football club plays the same way, with the same ethos? From u16s through to the first team? Producing Charlton players.cafctom said:
I don’t think it’s an issue if Bowyer and Roddy both report into Sandgaard.Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).Their remits can be vastly different.
Whilst Bowyer oversees the on the pitch operation, Roddy is managing the overall football based architecture across the club. Their responsibilities don’t need to cross over too much if they don’t have to (ie - Roddy isn’t going to be interfering in which formation we play, and Bowyer probably won’t be having a say in youth recruitment programs).With that said, doesn’t mean Roddy won’t be relied upon to report back to TS as an ‘eyes and ears’ guy. I can’t see Roddy being someone who can be held responsible for recent results.
There is no point recruiting and coaching kids and young pros to play like Man City when the first team manager is Tony Pullis or Big Sam?
At the same time if you have a recruitment guy and a first time manager/coach at the same grade both reporting to the same person how would a "non football" person decide who's at fault? So few players, at this level, are so obviously brilliant or rubbish. Someone has to be accountable for everything.
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Listening back to Roddy’s initial interview. His pedigree is excellent in implementing change, especially regarding youth. If things are being shaken up behind the scenes it’s probably not a bad sign!! We need to trust the new ideas he and TS may be working though for longer term success
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Getting Charlton players to recognise what a football looks like would be a good start.Cafc43v3r said:
But that sort of defeats the whole point of Roddy being there. Isn't the whole point to create an "identity" so the whole of the football club plays the same way, with the same ethos? From u16s through to the first team? Producing Charlton players.cafctom said:
I don’t think it’s an issue if Bowyer and Roddy both report into Sandgaard.Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).Their remits can be vastly different.
Whilst Bowyer oversees the on the pitch operation, Roddy is managing the overall football based architecture across the club. Their responsibilities don’t need to cross over too much if they don’t have to (ie - Roddy isn’t going to be interfering in which formation we play, and Bowyer probably won’t be having a say in youth recruitment programs).With that said, doesn’t mean Roddy won’t be relied upon to report back to TS as an ‘eyes and ears’ guy. I can’t see Roddy being someone who can be held responsible for recent results.
There is no point recruiting and coaching kids and young pros to play like Man City when the first team manager is Tony Pullis or Big Sam?
At the same time if you have a recruitment guy and a first time manager/coach at the same grade both reporting to the same person how would a "non football" person decide who's at fault? So few players, at this level, are so obviously brilliant or rubbish. Someone has to be accountable for everything.9 -
Roddy has a great CV - pretty sure he'll be in regular contact with TS and they'll be planning for any and all eventualities.1
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It might not be what TS wants at the moment though. It's his new toy and he probably feels that for the money he's shelled out he hasn't had enough time playing with it himself yet. It's a bit like buying a new train set; you want to be in control yourself, before handing the controller to someone else.cafc999 said:Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).
To progress the business side of the club we need a CEO but that may take some time to get the right person in. Having one would also make TS life easier with having one point of contact to sort out issues.
Having no CEO at this moment in time has no impact on results or performances though3 -
Totally agreeStig said:
It might not be what TS wants at the moment though. It's his new toy and he probably feels that for the money he's shelled out he hasn't had enough time playing with it himself yet. It's a bit like buying a new train set; you want to be in control yourself, before handing the controller to someone else.cafc999 said:Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).
To progress the business side of the club we need a CEO but that may take some time to get the right person in. Having one would also make TS life easier with having one point of contact to sort out issues.
Having no CEO at this moment in time has no impact on results or performances though0 -
There's a points failure at Charlton at the moment though! •sorry*cafc999 said:
Totally agreeStig said:
It might not be what TS wants at the moment though. It's his new toy and he probably feels that for the money he's shelled out he hasn't had enough time playing with it himself yet. It's a bit like buying a new train set; you want to be in control yourself, before handing the controller to someone else.cafc999 said:Airman Brown said:Question: what are the reporting lines? Unless Steve Gallen reports to Lee Bowyer, it appears that all three report direct to Thomas Sandgaard. That is not an obvious recipe for success (and to be clear I doubt that Roddy has had any part in recent results, or should have).
To progress the business side of the club we need a CEO but that may take some time to get the right person in. Having one would also make TS life easier with having one point of contact to sort out issues.
Having no CEO at this moment in time has no impact on results or performances though13 -
Interesting quote from Adkins today:
"There’s a lot of work going on behind the scenes, like planning pre-season. All the planning has started planning towards next season. From recruitment point of view, we have S Gallen & G Roddy working on that. The pool we attract depends on what division we are in.”
Looks like Roddy + Gallen are dealing with future recruitment together, maybe less emphasis on the manager?11 -
Dont mind so long as Adkins has final say on who comes in2
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SELR_addicks said:Interesting quote from Adkins today:
"There’s a lot of work going on behind the scenes, like planning pre-season. All the planning has started planning towards next season. From recruitment point of view, we have S Gallen & G Roddy working on that. The pool we attract depends on what division we are in.”
Looks like Roddy + Gallen are dealing with future recruitment together, maybe less emphasis on the manager?
Depends on what is meant by "working on that" - it could simply be that Adkins has decided on what he'd like the system to be and a few general target areas and will be the one to run the final rule over whoever they find but is focused on the here and now at the moment.
Just because Adkins isn't involved right now doesn't mean he won't be later on.5 -
Won't Roddy have overall responsibility for it, if he is the defacto "football CEO" what ever his actual job title is.0
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I'm sure, as always, Gallen and Roddy will come up with names, and Adkins gets his input too at the appropriate time. Then we move on to second choice, third choice, fourth choice and finally the bloke who signs for us!6
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Be surprised if Gallen is still here by the summer0
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I'd imagine Gallen and Roddy will be doing a lot of the donkey work at the moment whilst Nigel concentrates on the run in. I seem to recall though one of his former players mentioning that he places great emphasis on the character of new signings, so would be very surprised if he doesn't want to meet them in person before rubber-stamping.0
