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  • Another excellent win.
    My only concern is, Bowyer has managed to knit a team together in such a short space of time with impressive results.
    Last season he was offered a couple of jobs and it won't go unnoticed that he has arguably surpassed  his previous achievements. 
    Thomas Sandgaard  may find himself fighting off admirers of our brilliant manager.
  • Another excellent win.
    My only concern is, Bowyer has managed to knit a team together in such a short space of time with impressive results.
    Last season he was offered a couple of jobs and it won't go unnoticed that he has arguably surpassed  his previous achievements. 
    Thomas Sandgaard  may find himself fighting off admirers of our brilliant manager.
    I think the only time he would consider leaving in the immediate future would be if Leeds came calling, and even then I doubt it. 
  • 5 goals in 8 starts for Conor Washington

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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Levitt is a great prospect and we will be providing Man Utd with feedback. There are parts of his game he needs to work on and he needs to find those qualities if he is going to get into the team. That is probably why Man Utd sent him to us. Morgan has similarities and I know it is early days but his performance against Brighton made me sit up and take notice. There is a decent chance Man Utd would prefer he wasn't a shoo in into the team.

    Sandgaard should learn from Duchatelet's mistakes. Get Aneke and Morgan signed up on new deals a.s.a.p.
    Didn't Morgan sign a new contract in the summer? 
    Yes, but I mean a longer one on better terms. There was a question mark over Morgan but that is lifting and it looks like Bowyer has managed the lad well. You have to get in early before the big fish start fishing. 
    It was a new 3 year contract that Morgan signed in the summer, Mutts.

    IMO that's a very decent contract for a lad though talented, has still to prove himself.
    For now that's sufficient security for the player; and for the club.


  • seth plum said:
    The main front and centre feature of last night is that Watson didn't get booked.
    Massive achievement.
    Last night, he didn't need to take one for the team.


  • I see that WANKER Joey Barton 
    is saying his team are a far better team than us.
    i note BOWS did not make any comment.
    Barton is at least consistent He’s been a WANKER 
    Gobshite all his adult life 😂😂👍👍👍
  • 1968CAFC said:
    I see that WANKER Joey Barton 
    is saying his team are a far better team than us.
    i note BOWS did not make any comment.
    Barton is at least consistent He’s been a WANKER 
    Gobshite all his adult life 😂😂👍👍👍
    http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053439353?-11197:833
  • 10 games gone and we are gaining momentum.

    I'm convinced this is the best balanced squad we have had for years. Now both Morgan who was excellent and Purrington, who had his best game for a year, have joined the party. No weak links.

    It's impossible to pick a 1st 11 and no need because with our squad Bowyer will rotate until the end of season. 
    The downside to rotation is we will have times like yesterday when we become ragged as the personal and the formation change during a match. It's a strength and a weakness: fresh legs being the main advantage.
    The other downside to rotation IMO ....... is that we'll probably never see our (ability-wise) strongest team on the pitch at the same time.
    And that 'strongest team' unchanged won't develop into a tight consistent unit, in the way that legendary teams have done in the past.

    Rotation, of course, is a squad game and keeps a 1st team fresh and energised.
    It also keeps most of the squad involved, rather than players feeling frustrated at not getting a game - they'll know they play in turn.

    But part of me still hankers for the old way ....... when the manager picked his strongest XI, and players fought to keep the shirt.
    And only injury disrupted an unchanged winning side.

    What do I know? We've just won 6 consecutive games with rotation.
    I guess Bow is the Pro with his finger on the pulse! :smile:




  • edited November 2020
    ross1 said:
    1968CAFC said:
    I see that WANKER Joey Barton 
    is saying his team are a far better team than us.
    i note BOWS did not make any comment.
    Barton is at least consistent He’s been a WANKER 
    Gobshite all his adult life 😂😂👍👍👍
    http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053439353?-11197:833

    To be fair I don't think he said anything wrong. he does overlook the first 30 minutes when we was well on top but apart from that he is correct they did have more of the ball than us and looked a threat and I don't think we could of complained if it was a draw. 

    He has praised us saying we are a good team, we defended really well and will do really well this year.  




  • ross1 said:
    That full back who tripped Morgan in the box ...... did the foul prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity?

    Morgan was brought down from behind and was breaking through 1-on-1 with the keeper.
    Maybe the defender was lucky not to be red carded?

    Wisdom with hindsight, of course. :smile:


  • Maybe there is a place for Levitt this season but I'm not sure I see him getting in the team over Shinnie, Gilbey, JFC if two of those three are fit - Bowyer indicated that last night that even when two of them are out, he'd rather play a different midfielder. He certainly won't be trusted to play the Pratley/Watson role so I struggle to see where he regularly features.
  • Dazzler21 said:
     So we will not have one talismanic striker but hopefully three very useful ones, who each bring something different and give us options.
    I'll take three useful strikers, especially when 10 games in from 10 shots he's had one has 5 goals!

    Chuks and Bogle to end up with around 10 each and Smyth to pop up with 5 but many assists. 

    With Maddison to add to the goal threat, I'm nursing a semi.
    You could always ask to share @oohaahmortimer 's bowl of custard. :smile:


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  • edited November 2020
    Oggy Red said:
    ross1 said:
    That full back who tripped Morgan in the box ...... did the foul prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity?

    Morgan was brought down from behind and was breaking through 1-on-1 with the keeper.
    Maybe the defender was lucky not to be red carded?

    Wisdom with hindsight, of course. :smile:


    The rule changes, clear goal-scoring opportunity doesn't come into it anymore, unless the referee feels it was a professional fail. The rule was changed to prevent teams getting punished twice. So a penalty will only result in a red card if the foul would be worth of a red card elsewhere on the pitch (dangerous/violent/reckless) or is a professional foul. 

    The penalty last night was just a clumsy challenge, would be incredibly harsh to send the defender off for a professional foul there and it certainly wasn't a dangerous, violent or reckless challenge deserving of a straight red.
  • Oggy Red said:
    ross1 said:
    That full back who tripped Morgan in the box ...... did the foul prevent a clear goalscoring opportunity?

    Morgan was brought down from behind and was breaking through 1-on-1 with the keeper.
    Maybe the defender was lucky not to be red carded?

    Wisdom with hindsight, of course. :smile:


    The rule changes, clear goal-scoring opportunity doesn't come into it anymore, unless the referee feels it was a professional fail. The rule was changed to prevent teams getting punished twice. So a penalty will only result in a red card if the foul would be worth of a red card elsewhere on the pitch (dangerous/violent/reckless) or is a professional foul. 

    The penalty last night was just a clumsy challenge, would be incredibly harsh to send the defender off for a professional foul there and it certainly was a dangerous, violent or reckless challenge deserving of a straight red.
    Fair point, @randy_andy I hadn't been aware of that. Cheers.


  • ross1 said:
    1968CAFC said:
    I see that WANKER Joey Barton 
    is saying his team are a far better team than us.
    i note BOWS did not make any comment.
    Barton is at least consistent He’s been a WANKER 
    Gobshite all his adult life 😂😂👍👍👍
    http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1053439353?-11197:833
        Yes Ross 1 I read that also ? 
         It’ could have been 6-2 let alone 3-2.
         They had their moments  but they were not the
         Best Side and their equaliser was a foul 
         moments before they Scored
        Rochdale Next 👍👍👍
        
  • Oggy Red said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Levitt is a great prospect and we will be providing Man Utd with feedback. There are parts of his game he needs to work on and he needs to find those qualities if he is going to get into the team. That is probably why Man Utd sent him to us. Morgan has similarities and I know it is early days but his performance against Brighton made me sit up and take notice. There is a decent chance Man Utd would prefer he wasn't a shoo in into the team.

    Sandgaard should learn from Duchatelet's mistakes. Get Aneke and Morgan signed up on new deals a.s.a.p.
    Didn't Morgan sign a new contract in the summer? 
    Yes, but I mean a longer one on better terms. There was a question mark over Morgan but that is lifting and it looks like Bowyer has managed the lad well. You have to get in early before the big fish start fishing. 
    It was a new 3 year contract that Morgan signed in the summer, Mutts.

    IMO that's a very decent contract for a lad though talented, has still to prove himself.
    For now that's sufficient security for the player; and for the club.


    I didn't realise it was 3 years. Yes, that sounds fine.
  • That was a penalty from a confident striker. Keeper was never going to stop that.
  • thenewbie said:
    That was a penalty from a confident striker. Keeper was never going to stop that.
    Looking at it again it looks pretty close to hitting the post. On another day it will do so or go wide. Not confident as I was when Buyens or Taylor took them. 
    It's his first PK for us, calm down. Taylor's early PKs weren't as fantastic as his walk up ones.
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